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Are there any low cost Satellite Signal Meters suitable for the tight budgeted home user ? The Bird Dog looks great, but there's no way I can afford it. Even the used ones on ebay run over $100. With medical bills and the cost of living, money is very tight right now.

I upgraded my Starband 360 up to the Nova 1000 back in April. Everything ran great for the first couple of weeks, no problems at all. Then it started getting real twitchy and frequently dropping the signal. Talked to Starband Tech Support and they thought it was the transmitter and shipped me a new one. I also ordered a new new Noise Block Filter. I installed both, checked all my cable connections and cables...and the signal is still getting dropped. Looking at SkyManage the items most frequently X'd out are :

Sync
Backbone Link
TCP Acceleration

Though at times it drops just about everything other than Active Code and Powering Mode.

The same holds true whether I am connected straight PC to Modem, or through a hardwired router. Problem persists regardless of which of the 4 PC's I use, all run XP and range from XP SP2 to XP SP3 to XP x64Bit.

At this point I think it has to be either my line of sight for the Nova is different than the 360 was (in spite of being told by tech support it is the same) OR the Nova modem itself is defective. The only way I can think of to figure out which is the culprit is to use a Satellite Signal Meter to make sure I'm lined up correctly at the dish.

Bandwidth tests have varied quite a bit. This morning I got :
943 kb/s download and 113 kb/s on the upload. I've seen the download down to 426 kb/s and the upload as little as 20 kb/s when it gets flaky before it drops the connection.

Having no land-line phone, I have to use a cell phone for tech support and when I'm "on hold" for too long my call often gets dropped. Which of course is very aggravating. The nearest authorized installer is approximately 50 miles away (one way)

My location is:

Latitude: 36.5513573

Longitude: 82.7719574


Here is the SkyManage Installer page display page, copy and pasted from this morning. The asterisks are noted in red on the SkyManage site, though I don't know if that is denoting whether it's abnormal or just a required default.


General


VSAT ID * 7750

Workgroup Address * 257

Software Group Address * 516

Streamer PID * 5 15

Outbound ID *5


Boot-Time Options: Enable


Software Download: Enable

Software Download Timeout * 30 sec

DHCP : Disable

Embedded Web Site


Web Site IP Address * 192.168.1.1


Maritime Application
Maritime Application : Disabled

Network Name *

Satellite Name *

Satellite Orbital Location *
degrees
Downlink Polarization *
degrees
LNB L.O. Frequency *
GHz

ODU and LNB


ODU Constant Drift * 0 KHz

LNB Installation : 22V

ODU Type: Saturated

Modulation and Coding


Frequency * 1130000 KHz

Data-Rate * 57500940 bps

Modulation : 8PSK

Coding Rate : 2/3

DVB Reduce Latency: Enable

Turbo Reduce Latency : Normal (Maximum)

:confused: Does anybody have a recommendation for a low cost satellite signal meter... or does anything from the copy and pasted SkyManage look like there is a configuration problem ?

.... Should mention I took out the only tree which looked like it might potentially interfere with the line of sight.

Thanks for any help
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We had overcast skies and episodic light rain on Saturday and I couldn't even connect online long enough to check this forum. I've printed the info you've provided me with and am going to go back out today and try again with that info. Your response is generous and positive, it provides me with hope of getting my Starband working right. The last couple of months has been my first disappointment in Starband services.
Thank you and I will post back here what kind of results I get from today's efforts.
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Well I spent the day, taking out tree limbs, rechecking all connections (cable is solid copper, not sheathed steel) no signs of corrosion or water infiltration. Took off noise block filter and re-seated it (it is a .6 noise filter) removed the transmitter, reseated it. Made sure there were no seals covering the openings or any traces of adhesives. Tried swapping the cables point of attachment. Slowly in literally 1/64 inch increments attempted tweaking the dish to get a better signal and never got anything better than a 5.6 ebN0 on a clear day with no wind and when the temperature reached 95 degrees at about 3:00 PM, even that dropped to below 4 ebN0.

Even moving the dish just a hair caused the signal to drop out for several minutes. More than 1/8 inch from original marks dropped the signal out completely and it did not reacquire the signal at that far a movement.

So we have a new Nova modem (April 2008) that worked great for a couple of weeks before going flaky. A new transmitter and .6 noise block filter (last week) I tried hooking it up to several different computers, different versions of XP, different ethernet cards and cables, no firewalls... and am not finding any substantive difference from what I started with.

I am buffaloed on this one. :confused:
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when you originally got the new modem and it was working fine what was the ebno?

Are you still running on the old dish?

Am I understanding that you do now have a new LNB in there along with a new TX?

if the signal is dropping with the heat then it is sounding like the LNB is going bad.

Ok this may sound crazy but try putting one of those cold packs, like the kind you pull out of your freezer and put in a cooler on the LNB. You can hold it there with an ACE bandage.

Does that make the signal go up and stay strong?

if you have a voltmeter, carefully read the voltage from the center pin to the outside of the connector that goes to the LNB. It should be between 19 and 22 Volts. be careful you do not short it out.

it's not the PC, it's something to do with the outdoor electronics.

it sounds like the signal was marginal to begin with for some reason and then the new modulation and coding rate that they implemented a month or so ago threw you over the edge.

We have to figure out why the signal is marginal. Something is up with the outdoor part of your setup.

I can send you a complete new dish ( the new Phase III style ) and you can try it just for giggles. No charge. If it works keep it and send me some bucks. If it does not just send it back.

I have occasionally run across an install where the dish just sucked and i could not get a good signal for whatever reason.
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Well besides the transmitter, I ordered the NJR2544HWN which carries the .6 rating. It consists of just the small block with the coaxial end for the cable. No new lens or other parts. I recognize the possibility that any new part could be defective from day one and accept it as just one of those bad luck of the draw type incidents. The dropping of signals has been consistent with higher temperatures and any precipitation, even light ... starting a couple of weeks after the new Nova modem arrived in April. I don't know what the ebN0 was when I first got the modem. I just found the SkyManage page a few days ago. But bandwidth tests were running 1 Mbs and at times close to 2 Mbs down and 256 Kbs up. After the first couple weeks it started crapping out and just keeps getting worse as time goes by. I've not broken the FAP limit as far as I know. My biggest download was the SP3 pack for XP and I saved it to a USB flash drive to put on the other computers here, rather than download it seperately for each one. The cold pack idea is excellent and I will try it tomorrow . I want to call Starband Tech Support again, go over all the telemetry data, the configurations, etc and see what they have to offer in advice. Though the nearest Starband Dealer/Installer is 50 miles away, I found out there is a WildBlue Installer about 12 miles from me. I think I will call him in the morning and see if he is willing to troubleshoot my set up and see if he can find something I am missing. I have no multimeters, continuity testers, nor have I ever used them. If nothing else he should be able to test the cable run ( which is approximately 125 feet) with his equipment and tell me if the line of sight is obscured by trees. We are on top of a hill, there are large Beech and Oaks at the bottom of the hill, but the original installer (3 years ago) said those trees would not impact the signal for 7-8 years and last year was a terrible drought, this year well below normal rain fall... so trees are growing very slow. What I trimmed out today was everything that looked like it might block it, that had come up between the dish and where the hill drops for the next 75 yards in the past three years and grows fast (Catalpas, Poplars, etc)
These symptoms remind of of similar ones in the past on the 360 when Starband changed subclusters and never bothered to let me know about it until I called them and found out ( hey, it happens and didn't bother me overly much as it was a quick fix)

If Starband Tech Support doesn't have anything useful to say or if I can get the WildBlue guy to verify I have a bad component, I will definitely be willing to buy what equipment I need from you. Can you pretest components before shipping them ? If the new LNB or transmitter I just bought are bad, I think getting smacked with another bad one right off the shelf would be more than my delicate psyche could handle.

.... and , at a 125 ft run of cable, is there a signal strength booster which would make a significant improvement in performance ( and if so, how much do you sell them for) ? If I can get a 15-20 % boost on the strength of the signal that would push me past 6. most of the time. I can live with outages during moderate rain.

Thank you again for all your help and I think if it's a matter of needing a new component , I would rather buy it from somebody like you, who has proven to be willing to help assist others.
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I would not sell you anything unless you tried it first and it worked. I suspect if i sent you a new dish, LNB and loaned you a meter you would be able to acheive a better signal quality.

Contact me privately to arrange this.
dishstaller
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Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.

I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awe7kY5nvdU
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Jimbo
I've been getting at least 5 years from my AGM batteries ... but they ARE expensive.
Around $280 up here.
harshness
Around $280 up here.
Even flooded batteries are insane for some reason. A DieHard Platinum flooded battery retails for $240.
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The guy in the Video, REALLY needs to TAKE a Breath ...
If he'd Slow down, you could figure out What he's testing and on what. :(
harshness
If he'd Slow down, you could figure out What he's testing and on what.
You can't view his videos passively.

I appreciate this approach to videos that take an hour to deliver a fraction of the same data.

Now, if YouTube were required to flag the AI "reviews", that would really be something.
TRG
TRG
I've been getting at least 5 years from my AGM batteries ... but they ARE expensive.
Around $280 up here.
The original AGM battery in my truck was 7 years old when I replaced it. It was still going strong at the time but I didn't want to push my luck. In my experience batteries in today's tech heavy vehicles die suddenly without warning. Especially in extreme heat or cold conditions.
Jimbo
The original AGM battery in my truck was 7 years old when I replaced it. It was still going strong at the time but I didn't want to push my luck. In my experience batteries in today's tech heavy vehicles die suddenly without warning. Especially in extreme heat or cold conditions.
I've had the same luck ....
The 1st one was into 5th year and I replaced it, didn't show much bad, just didn't know if I should keep going with it when we were coming into Winter Weather (at the time).

I did have 1 AGM that Ford replaced as I was losing something in the vehicle, might have been the interior lights, iirc ...
That was quite awhile ago ...
TheForce
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Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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Heard a story from one of the Apple influencers on YT that the 18PM has a bug where it stops connecting to AT&T service. Doesn't affect Verizon or T-Mobile. Apple is replacing the phones. Anyone else hear of this? Defective Modem?
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Defective Modem?
It seems the phone gets locked into Sat mode. A software patch is coming to avoid that pitfall, but it comes too late for those who already fell in.

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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


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Foxbat
If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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medieval chain armor
Aka "mail" or "maille".
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
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GM said its next-generation vehicle architecture will provide 40 times more computing power and 30 percent less wiring than before and will expand from the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ to its high-volume SUVs, trucks, crossovers, and fourth-generation EVs, which will be powered by lithium manganese-rich (LMR) prismatic batteries

Despite the politicization and perceived consumer pivot away from EVs in America, GM needs to remain globally competitive, so it's doubling down on its fourth generation EVs, with energy-dense, cheaper-to-manufacture LMR batteries, more efficient motors, and state-of-the-art centralized computing architecture. With a stated goal of cutting the traditional four- to five-year concept-to-production time in half, GM is clearly challenging the concept of "China speed," which in the Chinese automotive industry can be as quick as 18 months from design to start of production. In the AI space, GM is smartly collapsing all of its marque-specific apps under the familiar OnStar brand, while providing more features—both on the phone and in the car—than it ever has before.
harshness
Let's tell it like it is. GM's EV efforts are coming from SAIC. The brain trust is almost entirely in China, and GM is hanging off of SAIC's shirt tails.

It is a lot like asserting that the Corvette was designed by Chevrolet when most of it came from the Cadillac CTS-V.
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Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
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Jimbo
Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
I use to watch that with my Dad back in the (60's ?) was that the 60's ?
K
I use to watch that with my Dad back in the (60's ?) was that the 60's ?
Mid 60's. I watched it too.
TRG
TRG
I loved all the Irwin Allen productions.
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Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
When?
Foxbat
Mid 60's. I watched it too.
I had built models of the Seaview and the Flying Sub as a kid.
KAB
KAB
I loved all the Irwin Allen productions.
I thought Voyage was decent (for the first two seasons). The rest, not so much. All other shows were pretty lame, IMO. Especially Land of the Giants.
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Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
Barbara Even, LOL (cast of original film from article).
harshness
I remember hiding behind the couch from the many sea monsters.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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BAD Is BAD-Huey Lewis And The News
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This Diamond Ring - Gary Lewis And The Playboys
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Gondoliers, Shakespeares, Overseers, Playboys and Bums - Norman Greenbaum
Bobby
I Wish I Was Eighteen Again - George Burns
harshness
I Wish - Stevie Wonder
dishstaller
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Now right up front....this is NOT intended to devolve into a "pot is good" vs "pot is bad" thread. The whole point is to make you aware of a potential problem that a person can develop when they start smoking pot at a young age. Not that they WILL, but CAN. Kinda like getting lung cancer from smoking cigs....some do, some don't. The purpose of posting this news story is to keep anyone from paying an outrageous emergency room bill......knowledge is power.
While this may not affect you, you might run into someone who is experiencing these symptoms and can share the info. Fortunately, it looks like stopping smoking is the cure and isn't a permanent condition.

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harshness
Another "might" with weed is gynecomastia (significant male breast enlargement).
K
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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harshness
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
MikeD-C05
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
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Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
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Well, look at the way she sat in the Captain's Chair. I didn't say the show should have been called "Captain Chair-Whore" for nothing...
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Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
star trek GIF by HULU


Just sayin...
MikeD-C05
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
For a whole generation of adults it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

All In The Family Nostalgia GIF by Sony Pictures Television
All In The Family Singing GIF by Sony Pictures Television
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Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
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TRG
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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b4pjoe
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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K
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
b4pjoe
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
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It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks
I WANT MORE
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
It's on my Air's.
b4pjoe
It's on my Air's.
The post read: "currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen". It didn't mention the Air. I suppose when it said Geminis it meant both but I had no way of knowing that.
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Hopefully soon for fire stick too
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Anyone know when build your own multi-view will be coming to the Apple TV?

Anyone who currently has build your own multi-view on Roku or Gemini, how is it working out?
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
This went from 0 to 60 in a second.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_gDzN2BYvY
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Well at least they won't have to be dealing with him again. ;)