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larrylwill

Last reply Jun 19, 2008 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Where is the HD I subscribed to?

Today at 1:30 PM I decided to see what I had subscribed to with the HD only package. I looked at the HD channels I get not including all the sports. Here is what I found. This took a long time since 90% of the channels changes landed me in a commercial, which I think takes up more than the program now, not counting the splash for the channel you are watching and up coming programs and the program you are now watching splash. Almost all of the decent HD was hdnet programming, and Cinamax which I get for $0.01. I think I have been had. This is not what I subscribed to for 2 years.
I realize that the programming source is part of the problem but then it shouldn't be called HD if it isnt and one worse than non hd and many about the same as non hd. Only the Hdnet and Cinimax stations hold a candle to OTA HD

10 = Bars on side
3 = Streatchovision
7 = Hd lite or very lite
18 = Decent HD
10 = Missing Decent HD = Voom replace with News weather fishing, cartoons.

105= TBS = Gangs of NY = Bars on sides
110 = Food = Rachael Ray = stretchovision
112 = HDTV = Decorating cents = decent HD
118 = A&E = Crossing Jorden = HD lite
119 = Bio = Bio Clasics = Streatchovision
120 = Hist = True Story of Charlie Wilson = A mixed bag
122 = Scifi = Increadable Hulk = Bars on Side
129 = Bravo = Top Chef = Bars on side
138 = TNT = Law and order = Decent HD
139 = TBS = Just shoot me = Stretchovision HD very lite
140 = ESPN = Golf = HD somewhat lite
142 = ESPN News = Decent HD
144 = ESPN2 = Soccer = Decent HD
172 = Dise = Cartoons = Decent HD I think
174 = Tdis = Cartoons = HD lite with bars on side
176 = Toon = Cartoons = Decent HD I think
180 = ABCfm = Sebrina = bars on side worse than non HD
182 = Disc = A haunting in Ga. = HD lite
183 = TLC = Bringing home baby = Decent HD
184 = Animl = The most extream = HD very lite
185 = Hlmrk = 7th Heaven = Bars on side
186 = Natgeo = Secretes of Revelation = Almost Decent HD
187 = HMC = That darn cat = Hallmark Bars on side very distracting.
193 = Scien = Marine Machines = HD very light
200 = Cnn = newsroom = HD lite
208 = CNBC = Closing Bell = HD lite
214 = TWC = Weather Center = Bars on side
215 = Trav = Alaska's artic wildlife = HD lite
239 = WGN = MLB baseball = Decent HD
310 = Max = Waist Deep = Decent HD
311 = MaxW = Hiest = Decent HD
314 = 5-MAX = Deloris Claiborne = Decent HD
362 = HDnet = Get out = Decent HD
364 = HDTHR = Volcanoes of the Deep = Decent HD
366 = UNIHD = Point of no return = Decent HD
369 = MHD = Music with Attitude = Decent HD
374 = Smith = Critter Quest = Decent HD
383 = HDMNV = It could happen to you = Decent HD
385 = MGM = The in crowd = Decent HD
394 = WFN = World of Saltwater Fising = Bars on side
398 = VS/GF = British Open Highlites = Bars on side

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Cantonsurroundsound

Jun 18, 2008

Again, where is the HD you subscribed to? it has been stolen by dish and mr. charlie ergen as they continue to manage in their ivory towers and ignore their highest margin customers whom pay the highest cost per month!

Voom HD is the best HD both in terms of clarity and content. I have watched it since the beginning and like every channel had some repeats but a lot less than most. In fact the last few months before they dropped it, we were watching Voom a lot as their were many new shows. dish did nothing to market it at all and never used it as an advantage. dish should never have removed Voom HD as they are now weak in HD both in terms of channels and clarity and price; with their current content they are no match for Directv. What they should have done is kept it but included it into their HD package and really market it as they should have. That would have created unique quality content that would differentiate from Directv. Looking at the thousands of Voom HD lovers you can see that the Voom HD content created a loyal base the problem was they never tried to expand that base.

If you stay with dish you are getting ripped off with your money as your are not getting your money' s worth of HD.

skottey

Jun 18, 2008

Cantonsurroundsound said:
If you stay with dish you are getting ripped off with your money as your are not getting your money' s worth of HD.

You are right on this! Y'all should switch to DirecTV Y'all.

Ditch Dish.
Switch to DirecTV.

GaryPen

Jun 19, 2008

skottey said:
You are right on this! Y'all should switch to DirecTV Y'all.

Ditch Dish.
Switch to DirecTV.

DirecTV added the Voom channels? Cool.

skottey

Jun 19, 2008

GaryPen said:
DirecTV added the Voom channels? Cool.

oh no no no... don't let me get your hopes up. But it is like when your butler or kitchen staff piss you off... you throw them out and get some new help. For those of you that feel wronged by Dish can really make a statement by taking your business to DirecTV.

GaryPen

Jun 19, 2008

Why would it get my hopes up? I always found Voom to be worthless to me as an enticement to subscribe. It is only now that Dish has dropped Voom that I am even thinking about going back to them.

I was only making fun of you guys who are obsessed with Voom to the point of actual mental illness, who keep telling everybody to switch to D*. Since D* doesn't carry Voom, and only has more of the mostly stretchovision mock HD channels that Dish dumped Voom for, it's kinda stupid to switch, unless there is some other compelling reason, such as better value, sports programming, better PQ, etc.

My suggestion to you Voomers is to move to Brooklyn, Queens, Long Island, or some other area served by Cablevision, and get your Voom that way. Of course, Cablevision is planning on dropping Voom, as wel, at some point. But, you'll get your fix for now.

larrylwill

Jun 19, 2008

Many of us cant take our business elsewhere because after they sucked us in we had to sign a 2 year contract. Although they dumped 10 of the stations I signed up for I should be able to dump them right?

skottey

Jun 19, 2008

GaryPen said:
Why would it get my hopes up? I always found Voom to be worthless to me as an enticement to subscribe. It is only now that Dish has dropped Voom that I am even thinking about going back to them.

I was only making fun of you guys who are obsessed with Voom to the point of actual mental illness, who keep telling everybody to switch to D*. Since D* doesn't carry Voom, and only has more of the mostly stretchovision mock HD channels that Dish dumped Voom for, it's kinda stupid to switch, unless there is some other compelling reason, such as better value, sports programming, better PQ, etc.

My suggestion to you Voomers is to move to Brooklyn, Queens, Long Island, or some other area served by Cablevision, and get your Voom that way. Of course, Cablevision is planning on dropping Voom, as wel, at some point. But, you'll get your fix for now.

Don't mistake me for one of the Voomers... haha.

Hemi 6.1

Jun 19, 2008

larrylwill said:
. Although they dumped 10 of the stations I signed up for I should be able to dump them right?

NOPE , Thats the Difference between the contract you signed with E* and the one E* didn't sign with you. Accept it and move on ,or switch privders.

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TheForce

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Last reply A moment ago · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Anyone planning to buy the iphone 17?

It's time for my wife to get a new iphone as her iphone 12 is getting weak battery life test says 70% compared to when new. But it is beginning to show signs of screen freezing as well.

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Foxbat

Aug 24, 2025

It may be the year to update my 13 to the 15.

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Foxbat

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BTW, iOS 26.1 is now out for iPhone, along with the OS 26.1 updates for all other supported Appley iDevices.

osu1991

Nov 9, 2025

Bought a Motorola G Power 5G android phone as a spare and to use for some work stuff. Was tired of work stuff cluttering up my iPhone 16 Pro. Didn't take long to remember why I originally went to an iPhone. 4hrs doing updates to step up from Android 14 updates to Android 15 and latest updates for 15. Ads on the Play store above the app I searched for is something I don't really remember from the last android phone I had 13-14 yrs ago. Face ID on iphone has spoiled me too.

I just wanted a cheap phone mainly for work pictures or I would have got an 17 Pro and used my 16 for work stuff, but no need to spend that kind of money. I don't even have cellular service on the Motorola, just using it on WiFi and added my google voice number to it with the app.

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Apple released their 2025 Holiday video. Friendly forest fauna find forgotten phone…

There's also a behind the scenes "Making of" video, too:

Foxbat

Feb 12, 2026

Foxbat said:
BTW, iOS 26.1 is now out for iPhone, along with the OS 26.1 updates for all other supported Appley iDevices.

BTW, iOS 26.3 is now out for iPhone, along with the OS 26.3 updates for all other supported Appley iDevices.

Foxbat

Mar 10, 2026

Foxbat said:
It may be the year to update my 13 to the 15.

Apple made me an offer I couldn't refuse. For whatever reason, they bumped up the Trade-in value of my iPhone 13, first to $180, and just recently to $195. So I took the Apple Cash from Apple card savings and the $195 trade-in and have a shiny new iPhone 17 nothing. The base 256 GB is more than enough for my needs.

Now I'm on the lookout for a leather case for it…

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Foxbat

A moment ago

My iPhone 17 is now running iOS 27.2 (whatever happened to 27.1.x?) and it looks like all the other Apple devices that can are releasing 27.2 (looks like it came out Monday)

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iJustine

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The new PROLED MacBook Pro has a Dynamic Island 😯

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iJustine

16 minutes ago · posted in iJustine

New PROLED MacBook Pro!

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"MysteryMan"

Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply 24 minutes ago · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Windows 10/11 Download

I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.

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EarDemon

Oct 13, 2026

If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

WhiteBeard

Oct 13, 2026

EarDemon said:
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

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EarDemon

Oct 14, 2026

WhiteBeard said:
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.

harshness

Oct 15, 2026

EarDemon said:
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.

What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.

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EarDemon

Oct 15, 2026

harshness said:
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?

Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.

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EarDemon

Oct 15, 2026

I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

harshness

Oct 16, 2026

EarDemon said:
Because it's what I prefer.

I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.

HipKat

Oct 16, 2026

EarDemon said:
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

I used to pin the C: drive to the Win Taskbar and it would open in cascading style

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