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GaryPen
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Possible returning subscriber questions

Instead of adding add'l questions to the OTA EPG thread that I started, I think I'll post a number of questions in this new thread to help me decide whether to go back with Dish and their DishHD package. (My other choice would be DirecTV's "Plus HD DVR" package.)

1. Can I get more than one 722 on the account? And, if so, is there an add'l startup fee for the 2nd 722?

2. What would be the NAD (nickel and dime) fees for the following setup, in addition to the $34.99 for DishHD plus Locals:
-722 for HDTV in living room
-2nd 722 for HDTV in BR1 and SDTV in BR2 (or 612, if two 722's are not possible)

3. Does Dish have multi-room viewing from DVR to DVR or non-DVR? (That would negate the necessity of a 2nd 722, actually.)

4. I know that RSN is not included in DishHD package, but is it possible to get HD RSN if I pay for the SportPack? Do they even still offer the SportPack? (It used to be around $5.)

5. What is up with the 129 satellite? From what I understand, it contains most of the HD channels, but is dying. Will I have trouble receiving 129 in Northern California, or is the problem mainly affecting Easterners? Will they be replacing it soon?

6. Are their HD channels being compressed to "HD-Lite" quality? I know that Direct was doing this until they added capacity. Comcast just started doing this in my area. That is one of the reasons I am looking to change, and don't want to switch to a service that is also degrading their HD signals.

Thanks in advance.
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dish networks treats their customers poorly as evident by them dropping Voom HD and not even talking to their top tiered HD customers. dish networks also has very poor customer service as most complaints are never answered by an automated e-mail. dish networks also is more expensive than Directv, and dish has less HD channels.

Yes I am pissed that dish dropped Voom, replaced those 15 zero commercial channels with only 7 new channels and now most of the HD lineup is up converted, stretched and not true HD. I also checked my current cost of service and would save over $600 the first year and still save every year after. So why would you want to pay more for less HD, less channels, have poor customer service at a higher price when Directv is rated better in customer service, is cheaper, has more HD and more channels?
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If you compare the equivalent AT package to Direct's Plus HD DVR package, then yeah. DirecTV will have more channels for less money. Also, less nickel and dime fees. But, D* offers nothing like E*s DishHD pack, which is a great bargain for 40 "HD" channels, which include all of the nationals I'm interested in anyway. Why pay for a bunch of channels I don't watch? (Even the so-called stretchovision channels will look better than their SD counterparts due to higher bandwidth and less compression. A lot of Animal Planet HD's shows are like that, and look great.)

Then there is the issue of HW. It's hard to believe after experiencing some of the steaming pieces of crap Dish has released over the years. But, they have a superior HD DVR. And, it has a built-in OTA tuner, unlike the HR21 which needs an add-on piece that would steal precious real estate in my HT cabinet.

I'm familiar with E*'s piss poor customer service. So, no surprises there.

As for Voom, it's much ado about nothing. I was not interested when Dish had them, and I wouldn't be interested in Dish if they kept them and didn't add the nationals that they wisely did. You, OTOH, seem to miss them. Switching to D* won't bring them back, you know. But, if you feel you would be happier with D*, you should definitely switch. (If I was getting a full programming package, I would choose them, as well.)
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GaryPen said:
Instead of adding add'l questions to the OTA EPG thread that I started, I think I'll post a number of questions in this new thread to help me decide whether to go back with Dish and their DishHD package. (My other choice would be DirecTV's "Plus HD DVR" package.)

1. Can I get more than one 722 on the account? And, if so, is there an add'l startup fee for the 2nd 722?

2. What would be the NAD (nickel and dime) fees for the following setup, in addition to the $34.99 for DishHD plus Locals:
-722 for HDTV in living room
-2nd 722 for HDTV in BR1 and SDTV in BR2 (or 612, if two 722's are not possible)

3. Does Dish have multi-room viewing from DVR to DVR or non-DVR? (That would negate the necessity of a 2nd 722, actually.)

4. I know that RSN is not included in DishHD package, but is it possible to get HD RSN if I pay for the SportPack? Do they even still offer the SportPack? (It used to be around $5.)

5. What is up with the 129 satellite? From what I understand, it contains most of the HD channels, but is dying. Will I have trouble receiving 129 in Northern California, or is the problem mainly affecting Easterners? Will they be replacing it soon?

6. Are their HD channels being compressed to "HD-Lite" quality? I know that Direct was doing this until they added capacity. Comcast just started doing this in my area. That is one of the reasons I am looking to change, and don't want to switch to a service that is also degrading their HD signals.

Thanks in advance.
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All your questions answered.

1. Initial install with 2 VIP 722 is 199 dollars or 1 VIP 722 and 1 VIP 612 is 99 dollars.

2. Fees
a. HD receivers past the first 7 dollars
b. DVR fee per dvr 5.98
c. No phone line fee for 722 is 5 dollars (does not apply to the 612)

3. No. Sorry.

4. No (yes they offer the sports pack but only if you have AT100+ or higher and it 5.99 you may not have it on the HD only pak, but their is speculation that this may change in the future)

5. You will be pointed at 129 in california. It works fine. If it is replaced dish will migrate you for free.

6. No you get full quality. You get exaclty what the provider gives.
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tws101 said:
All your questions answered.

1. Initial install with 2 VIP 722 is 199 dollars or 1 VIP 722 and 1 VIP 612 is 99 dollars.

2. Fees
a. HD receivers past the first 7 dollars
b. DVR fee per dvr 5.98
c. No phone line fee for 722 is 5 dollars (does not apply to the 612)

3. No. Sorry.

4. No (yes they offer the sports pack but only if you have AT100+ or higher and it 5.99 you may not have it on the HD only pak, but their is speculation that this may change in the future)

5. You will be pointed at 129 in california. It works fine. If it is replaced dish will migrate you for free.

6. No you get full quality. You get exaclty what the provider gives.
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RE #6...afraid not. It's called compression.
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GaryPen
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tws101 said:
4. No (yes they offer the sports pack but only if you have AT100+ or higher and it 5.99 you may not have it on the HD only pak, but their is speculation that this may change in the future)
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Thanks for the complete and assumptively accurate answers. It's too bad about #4. I hope Dish changes this so that DishHD subs can get their RSN, either by purchasing a la carte, or within the Multi-sport pack.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Another example:

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Susan Saint James, Emmy-Winning Star of 'Kate & Allie' and 'McMillan & Wife,' Dies at 80

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At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain<!-- --> | ZeroHedge

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dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
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