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Currently I have dish 1000 pointed to 110,119, and 129. It works most of the time but occasionally I have breakups on 129. Tried to realign the dish but this is the best I can get given the dish location. Before I installed 1000 I had 500 on the same mast with perfect 110 and 119 signal levels. I also happen to have currently unused old Voom dish pointed to 61.5. I have single 622 HDDVR. I was thinking about putting back my old dish 500 and use it for 110 and 119 and connect the Voom's dish for 61.5 for HD channels. This would eliminate need for 129 if HD channels on 129 and 61.5 are the same. I still have old legacy twin LBNF for 110 and 119 attached to my old dish 500. I live in the Atlanta area and I get my locals with OTA.
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I don't want to run any additional cables as I already have too many. I just want to know is there a way to take advantage of my current setup in order to get more reliable satellite signal. I'll try to simplify my questions:

One option is to connect Dish Pro plus twin ( for 110 & 119) to one and 61.5 to another input on switch 21 and then run single cable to Dish Pro Plus DPP Separator.

If the dish pro plus lnbf cannot work with switch 21 can I then replace dish pro plus lnbf with my old legacy twin lnbf and then again use switch 21 to add 61.5 and finally dpp separator?

I hope this makes sense.
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I don't want to run any additional cables as I already have too many. I just want to know is there a way to take advantage of my current setup in order to get more reliable satellite signal. I'll try to simplify my questions:

One option is to connect Dish Pro plus twin ( for 110 & 119) to one and 61.5 to another input on switch 21 and then run single cable to Dish Pro Plus DPP Separator.

If the dish pro plus lnbf cannot work with switch 21 can I then replace dish pro plus lnbf with my old legacy twin lnbf and then again use switch 21 to add 61.5 and finally dpp separator?

I hope this makes sense.

If the 21 switch is DishPro, you cannot use the separator with it, nor would the separator work with legacy equipment. You would need to use a DPP44 switch and run two lines from 110/119 to the switch. You seem to be making this more complicated than it is since you already have a switch built into the lnb. A coax run from 61.5 to the twin would cost a lot less.
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I got it now, thank you. I am not making it complicated because 61.5 dish is on the opposite end of the house and it is simply not feasible to run a cable from it to the dish pro twin. Looks like the only way to get stronger signal or to take advantage of the 61.5 dish is to relocate the 1000 dish.
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I got it now, thank you. I am not making it complicated because 61.5 dish is on the opposite end of the house and it is simply not feasible to run a cable from it to the dish pro twin. Looks like the only way to get stronger signal or to take advantage of the 61.5 dish is to relocate the 1000 dish.

If you use a proper RG-6 cable, you will not see much signal loss if any at all in a 100-150 ft run.
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If you use a proper RG-6 cable, you will not see much signal loss if any at all in a 100-150 ft run.


It's not about distance. It would be much easier to relocate dish 1000 then to run cable from 61.5 dish. Plus, I like current dish 1000 location because it cannot be seen at all from the street. I cannot move Voom's dish closer to dish 1000 because of several trees. And I don't feel like moving dish 1000 closer to 61.5 dish because I already have an FTA dish, Voom's 61.5, and an OTA on that side of the house. Adding another dish would make some people think that my house is military headquorters or something. :D
I was really hoping to take advantage of the two cables already in my living room. The first cable comes from the dish 1000 and another one from Voom's 61.5 dish but ...
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It's not about distance. It would be much easier to relocate dish 1000 then to run cable from 61.5 dish. Plus, I like current dish 1000 location because it cannot be seen at all from the street. I cannot move Voom's dish closer to dish 1000 because of several trees. And I don't feel like moving dish 1000 closer to 61.5 dish because I already have an FTA dish, Voom's 61.5, and an OTA on that side of the house. Adding another dish would make some people think that my house is military headquorters or something. :D
I was really hoping to take advantage of the two cables already in my living room. The first cable comes from the dish 1000 and another one from Voom's 61.5 dish but ...

Gary has the right of it. You may not like the dishes, but you do what you have to. If it makes you feel better, I've had to install three new dishes on one house before (61.5, 110, 119, 148).
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Jimbo
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?
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But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Bruce
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
Jimbo
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Bruce
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Nielsen Streaming Ratings: Third-party measurement firm Nielsen tracks U.S. streaming viewership, releasing weekly reports that measure total minutes viewed across major television sets, broken down by program (such as original, acquired, and movie content) rather than minute-by-minute audience retention curves.
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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.
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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
Jimbo
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.

Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
I have turned some off, not others ...
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Funny thing is that as the screen size and pic quality increase, the quality of the programming has DEcreased.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
Jimbo
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
No, I was actually referring to outside of the Top 8, but should have been Top 12 ...

I guess I should have looked at the bracket from last year first ...

I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
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I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
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I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Yep, wonder why we rank the top 25 in 2 poles still? Do the ranking change much if they are unranked or have many loses? They sure do, any given day never take your opponent as a cake walk.....
Jimbo
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

They are trying to make this Basketball and its a far cry from the way that is played.

How long till they go to 32 teams ? Then they will say, well, the NFL is 32 teams, we can make more money that way .... except the NFL is 32 teams, that are a set number of teams and divisions, you don't have that in College ... oh but they will try.

They would have to choose what teams they would want in and thats it.
Hopefully that NEVER happens.

I can see the NCAA going away and the CFP taking that portion over and a Collective Bargaining agreement coming in the not to distant future.
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The problem with rankings and playoffs is that they are designed to hype the game and make money. Period.

The only reason that BYU and Texas Tech were upsets is that they were hyped up in the standings in the first place. I love watching BYU and Bear Bachmeier. They are a fun and talented team, but not nearly so strong, fast, big, and skilled as a true top ten team. Does anyone truly believe they could compete with the likes of Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama, etc.? Yet, they were ranked above those teams.

Each year, there are 10 to 12 teams who truly could compete for the championship if it depended on winning more than one game in a playoff. Including teams like James Madison, Tulane, BYU, etc. in a playoff has nothing to do with determining a national champion. It's just about money.
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Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time
Yes. As shown in a few posts now.


You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

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But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
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Yes. As shown in a few posts now.



But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
No, no ... if you want to make the playoffs, you want to Win it ... If you want to Win it, you need to Win 4-5 games in a row against Top 10 teams for the most part, theres a Possibility you'd play someone out side of the Top 10, but not much.

The Playoffs is a 4-5 game Win or Go Home.