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Last reply Jul 14, 2008 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Can I use Directv equipment to get Dish Network service?

I've tried to search for an answer to my question through the older posts, but I couldn't find anything too specific, so I apologize if this question has been answered before.

I was able to get a satellite dish and receiver from a coworker, both are branded by Directv. Here are the specifications on them:

Dish: It says: "Compatible with Directv Multi Satellite, Directv Para Todos, and Directv Dish Antennas. California Amplifiers P/N: 150517"

Receiver: RCA DRD430RG

I am looking to get Dish Network. From what I understand (no sure if I am correct), Dish won't let you use someone else's receiver as the main receiver, but could I use the receiver I have for a secondary TV?

Also, will my dish be able to pick up Dish Network as long as I install it in the right direction?

It wouldn't be impossible for us to find a newer dish or receiver, but I would like to use this free equipment if possible. I am not interested in renting equipment from Dish though.

I'd appreciate any help. Thanks a lot!

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Anole

Jul 12, 2008

- Dish has a pay-as-you-go plan, with no contracts, no social, no nuttin'.
- No DirecTV receiver will ever receive anything from Dish Network.
- Dish sometimes has problems activating used equipment on a new account, unless it has been specifically and officially released by the previous owner.
- if you are dumpster diving, the chances of finding a Dish 500 (this is a specific dish with lnbs) is pretty high.
They come in Legacy, DishPro, and other flavors, most of which will work fine.
(too much info for one post) -

- The receiver model 301 is modern, quite nice, cheap, and not lacking for a first or second receiver.
Some older models with four numbers are a bit . . . old . . . in my opinion.
- "FTA" the term, and the equipment, have nothing to do with receiving any pay satellite service.
If both words come out of your mouth in the same sentence, you'll likely get thrown out of our FTA section.
. . . or worse . . .
- unless you are specifically looking for foreign language, the 110º + 119º birds are probably all you need.
- Please re-read everything NavyChop said, above. - :up

STEELERSRULE

Jul 12, 2008

Anole said:
- Dish has a pay-as-you-go plan, with no contracts, no social, no nuttin'.

I use this type of Dish service and it works great.

No contracts. No info given. You own everything

BUT..............(Aye, here is the rub):

1. No local channels available
2. No PPV available
3. No HD available
4. No local RSN(Regional Sports Network) available.
5. It uses a reconditioned DP301 Receiver that only allows for 1-room capability.

These are the big four that turn people off to the system. Number 5 maybe.

But there are no contracts. No Social Security # needed. No Credit Card since it is prepaid.

All you give is a zip code(hence no RSN or locals since you could say ANY zip code, and they would not know), and that is it.

But you can sign up for 1 day(you actually get 2 days for the price of 1 if ordered before 8AM I noticed) for any type of programming left, and be done with it.

Watched HBO this afternoon for the Heavyweight Title fight. Total cost to me: $.55 cents.

PRICELESS!!!!!

Here is a link to info about the Dish NOW/YA prepaid service:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/110233-very-frustrated-dish.html

Post #12 and #16 are wordy, but informative. I wrote them. They are long winded. Sorry. But they really do explain everything.

And this thread expands on the differences between the prepaid Card found at Radio Shack and the GREEN DOT MONEYPAK:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/123868-dish-network-prepaid-question.html

mike123abc

Jul 12, 2008

If it is an old legacy LNB you will be able to get 119 with it. You will not be able to get 110 and 119 together. The old DIRECTV triple LNB dish combined DIRECTV 110 with its 119. Any Dish receiver will work with the legacy LNBs. So, essentially you could use it for 119 for AT100 and most of AT200 service. You could use the 101 LNB to point to 119 and avoid the combining parts.

Anole

Jul 13, 2008

Kiss

I think a full-on description of how to rewire and reaim a Phase II (Para Todos) dish to get Dish 110º & 119º, goes way beyond the scope of this thread. -

Not to mention the switch you'd need.

vegassatellite

Jul 14, 2008

If OP wants DISH without a contract or a lease, their best bet might be to get a DISH 500 out of the dumpster at the local DNSC office. Easiest way to find them or a contractor for them is to check craiglist or careerbuilder and tell them you want to come in and fill out an app to get the address. Then check the dumpster after hours and you'll probably find hundreds of Dish 500 dishes. Might even score a DP twin LNB but its functionality is not so certain. As for a receiver, try Ebay but make sure to get the R00 and S00 before completing the sale and call DISH to ensure you can activate the receiver before buying. Last of all, fund your paypal with your credit card (not debit card) to ensure you have recourse if the sale goes bad. Once you've done all that, call DISH and order programming.

Also, now is the time to find Dish 500 dishes. With the MPEG2 to MPEG4 HD receiver transition, all those old MPEG2 HD receivers are getting Dish 1000.2 upgrades with their receiver upgrades and techs are bringing back the old 500 dishes and just pitching them.

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reubenray

Last reply 4 minutes ago · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

31 minutes ago

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

4 minutes ago

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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TRG

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Last reply 13 minutes ago · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

mobilemusthave.com

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Foxbat

13 minutes ago

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

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Last reply 13 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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Last reply 23 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

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Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

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