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OzarkChronicles
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello Everyone.

I am putting in a 26u Rack (Wall-Mounted / Swing Out Style) in my basement. In addition to the computer / NAS / Networking equipment I am putting in the rack, I am hoping to make this the main distribution point for all Coax runs and Phone runs in the house as well.

I am completely new to the Satellite systems (in the interest of full disclosure). I will eventually be putting televisions (and recievers?) in at least two additional rooms. BUT I would like the ability to have up to 5 rooms w/ TV's. disributed from my rack.

In my mind, I am envisioning a 19in rack-mount multiswitch (Do i need a multi-switch for every reciever?), with the inputs on the rear of the panel and the outputs on the front of the panel. I would also have a patch panel with barrel connectors and would terminate each of my coax runs to a spot on the patch panel. I then would use a small coax patch cable to go between the two.

Would the above even work, or is there something that would, or am I smoking crack?

I am also looking for a way to addd an OTA Antenna into the mix above. Any and all help is appreciated. I am willing to post photos of the process and end product.

Thanks,
Matt Tucker




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Current Sattellite Set-Up:

Programming = Dish Basic Programming + Dish HD Channels
DishNetwork Dish = DishNetwork Plus
Reciever = DishNetwork VIP622 DVR

VideoPath Multi-Dish Switch (Model DP44)
DP Plus Video Path Power Inserter (Model DP44)

Primary Television = Samsung 42" Plasma*
*Currently Only Television in House
*No Supplemental Antenna Hooked Up to television
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skyviewmark
I have 4 HD/DVR's mounted in an equipment closet. Individual HDMI or Component cables run to 4 HDTV's and all 4 receivers also input into modulators feeding to all 5 TV's allowing me to see any receiver from any TV by simply changing Channels.. So can it be done.. YES.. Is it economically feasible.. Well... I did it.. But for the average user I would say don't do it. For the tech Savy, it's a piece of cake.. Depending on the Dish you are using, you would need 3 or 4 RG-6 cables coming to your rack from the dish, then either DP34 or DPP44 switches mounted at your rack.. A DP 34 switch can handle 4 tuners or the DPP44 can handle 4 dual tuners. If that isn't enough you can add additional switches stacked to the first one. Standard RG-6 cable from your rack to each TV will work for Standard Def TV's but if you want HiDef you are going to have to run either a 5 wire component cable to each HD TV, or an HDMI Cable to each TV from the receivers.. If you are a novice as you say, I would suggest getting a professional to do this for you.. OR just get Dish to hook you up with the standard type install.

Edit.. OTA.. I have an OTA in the attic with a splitter at the rack that feeds it to the HD/DVRs so I integrate it into my receivers, and also have a feed going into my cable so that each TV can also be switched to Local TV if I need to due to weather outages.. I also have an amplifier on my cable feeds off my modulators that insures I get a quality feed on each TV.

2nd edit.. 2 of my receivers also feed to my Onkyo Amplifier. My DVD Player is also in the closet hooked to the Onkyo Amplifier. The Onkyo feeds my 120 in projection system in my theater room for the HD Picture and Dolby Digital Surround.

The key here is if you can imagine it, then it can be done.. And compared to some of the people I have seen here on this board, mine is a simple setup.
OzarkChronicles
Thanks for the reply. Although the notion of keeping the recievers in the rack, is appealing -- running all the HDMI Cable from my rack to the rooms doesn't sound appealling (in terms of cost to me). And the rack is really going to be a place to centralize wiring and not equipment so much.

My end goal is to have a reciever in each room with the TV. In reading your response, I guess I am looking for something to act as a rack-mount DP44 or DP33 with the inputs on the rear of the rack mount panel and the outputs on the front of the panel.

--Matt Tucker
vegassatellite
I'm not aware of any rack mount DISH switches. However, you might be able to create a custom enclosure cabinet by taking some painted aluminum and having it bent to the exact dimensions to fit in the rack and have the rear of the cabinet tapped with 3/8" holes where the DPP44 outputs can be mounted through those holes and tightened against the cabinet with barrel nuts. You can probably get two DPP44 switches in a 19" wide space. For the inputs on the DPP44, you can probably mount a quad ground block to the rear of the cabinet with the barrels on one end sticking out the rear between the two switches. Then just run the wires inside the enclosure from the ground block to the first DPP44 switch and then to the second. This enclosure will provide support up to 8 dual tuners (16 total tuners). I would also suggest making the top of the enclosure removable with a screw in each corner. For a real professional look, have a company that can bend aviation metal to specs make the enclosure for you. Look for machine shops near a smaller airport in your area.

If you're really gung-ho about this, you could even put the power inserters and power supplies in a separate enclosure so you can just jump the cables from one enclosure to the other for port 1 inputs on the DPP44 switches.
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Care About Detroit - Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
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I Wanna Talk About Me - Toby Keith
Bobby
98.6 - Keith
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I'm Easy - Keith Carridine
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It's Easy - Boston
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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arlo
A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
dishstaller
That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
TRG
TRG
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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b4pjoe
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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HipKat
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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Foxbat
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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dishstaller
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Jimbo
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
dishstaller
Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.