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vegassatellite

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Last reply Jul 19, 2008 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Where Will E2 Drift Towards?

Without control of E2, is it in danger of drifting in to E1? I mean, I don't know which way that thing would drift, but I would hope that E1 is in the opposite direction. Anyone know which way satellites tend to drift when unsteered? If E2 crashes into another bird and creates a lot of debris, that could be a real problem for all the birds up there in the belt.

It would be cool if they could invent a way to rope a stray satellite and drag it out to graveyard. Perhaps the government could use AMC14 as a strategic means of T-Boning E2 and knocking both of them out of the geosynch orbit. Hit it at the right angles and who knows?

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greg47

Jul 17, 2008

E2 Loss

vegassatellite said:
Without control of E2, is it in danger of drifting in to E1? I mean, I don't know which way that thing would drift, but I would hope that E1 is in the opposite direction. Anyone know which way satellites tend to drift when unsteered? If E2 crashes into another bird and creates a lot of debris, that could be a real problem for all the birds up there in the belt.

It would be cool if they could invent a way to rope a stray satellite and drag it out to graveyard. Perhaps the government could use AMC14 as a strategic means of T-Boning E2 and knocking both of them out of the geosynch orbit. Hit it at the right angles and who knows?

The FCC has required for years a seperate backup system to graveyard or de-orbit satellites. Echostar like other satellite companies monitor the telementry and data from the satellites 24/7 365 days a year. Usually they have advance warning through the earth bound recieved data to avoid a dead bird in the clark belt. If it does happen that a satellite just goes dead without warning the satellite will start drifting out of its figure 8 geo orbit box in space. Since all orbiting space debris is constantly tracked they can manuver the other satellites out of the way until the earth's gravity pulls it from the geo orbital plane where it endangers the other geo satellites. I have read several articles on the net about a few start up companies working on a satellite robot that would have the ability to attach to and or move a disabled or damaged satellite to another location(deep space,a deorbit manuver or a orbit where the satellite could be salvaged or repaired.

vegassatellite

Jul 17, 2008

greg47 said:
The FCC has required for years a seperate backup system to graveyard or de-orbit satellites. Echostar like other satellite companies monitor the telementry and data from the satellites 24/7 365 days a year. Usually they have advance warning through the earth bound recieved data to avoid a dead bird in the clark belt. If it does happen that a satellite just goes dead without warning the satellite will start drifting out of its figure 8 geo orbit box in space. Since all orbiting space debris is constantly tracked they can manuver the other satellites out of the way until the earth's gravity pulls it from the geo orbital plane where it endangers the other geo satellites. I have read several articles on the net about a few start up companies working on a satellite robot that would have the ability to attach to and or move a disabled or damaged satellite to another location(deep space,a deorbit manuver or a orbit where the satellite could be salvaged or repaired.

I agree. The company that invents an unmanned satellite that holds fuel and can dock with satellites to refuel them will make a killing, especially if the satellite can be designed for re-entry and splash down in the ocean for recovery. This might not be possible with existing satellites, but future satellites can be built with support for a refueling vessel of a standardized design. Ideally, the bird would have the fuel capacity to refuel at least a couple of birds on each mission.

Anole

Jul 17, 2008

I -

- LOVE -

- IT !

Let's see, maneuver it over near an enemy satellite, and deton...err....uhhhh.... have it accidentally explode with all fuel on board. - :up

Or, just give 'em low grade fuel. Stuff that'll clog their injectors or whatever they have.
It runs a few months, and then suddenly it can't get it's thrusters up! -

Bob Haller

Jul 19, 2008

satellites are launched with more than enough fuel for their expected lifetimes.

only when things go wrong would refueling be needed, and most of the time that means the bird already has other major troubles.

the big exception is booster failure, reached orbit, but not where it belongs.

a space tug should be built, for all sorts of mergencies

Scott Greczkowski

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 10:36 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

Today at 10:36 AM

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

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Foxbat

Today at 10:27 AM

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WHEcmortfK0?feature=share

dishstaller

Today at 10:27 AM

Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

www.dailymail.com