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Why can't Directv and Dishnet lobby to change some of the programming rules?
As a consumer, why can't I pay for the national feeds and buy locals from another area? If I am willing to pay for it, why can't I receive it?
I am originally from Indianapolis and was promoted to Columbia Missouri. I would like to purchase the Indianapolis locals. I would much rather see what is going on 'at home' than what is going on in Central Missouri. I should also be permitted to purchase the east and west coast network feeds.
You would think that Directv would have the ability to run all the locals in the 7000's channel numbers. I realize the government is trying to protect terrestrial television and local markets, but this is not the governments job.
One way to insure their local channels get some revenue is by implementing the following fee structures:
1. If you purchase the network feeds, 50% of the fee reverts back to your local market (DMA).
2. If you purchase additional local markets - like if we purchased the Indy locals - the fee would be split between both the Columbia local market and the Indy local market.
As consumers, we need to demand that we can purchase the programming we desire.
As a consumer, why can't I pay for the national feeds and buy locals from another area? If I am willing to pay for it, why can't I receive it?
I am originally from Indianapolis and was promoted to Columbia Missouri. I would like to purchase the Indianapolis locals. I would much rather see what is going on 'at home' than what is going on in Central Missouri. I should also be permitted to purchase the east and west coast network feeds.
You would think that Directv would have the ability to run all the locals in the 7000's channel numbers. I realize the government is trying to protect terrestrial television and local markets, but this is not the governments job.
One way to insure their local channels get some revenue is by implementing the following fee structures:
1. If you purchase the network feeds, 50% of the fee reverts back to your local market (DMA).
2. If you purchase additional local markets - like if we purchased the Indy locals - the fee would be split between both the Columbia local market and the Indy local market.
As consumers, we need to demand that we can purchase the programming we desire.
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No one is stopping you from offering your ideas to E* or D*. In fact, good luck! But it won't wash. The gov't, believe it or not, is actually helping you by requiring the exemption for receiving the DNS network feeds...if your local affiliates approve the request. But that is limited to the East/West Coast "mothership" feeds from the network sources themselves. Those networks are on CONUS beams and reach everyone who is allowed to get them. But the non-NYC/LA feeds are all spot beamed so no dice on getting anything else.
While you may claim to not be watching the local channel(s), you are still a member of your DMA as counted by the local affiliate. Those numbers are used for their ad sales. They don't claim that xx% watch every ad...they simply tell the prospective vendors/advertisers that "there are XX people living in the market and you have the opportunity to reach them if you buy ad space on our channel".
And I think TexasBrit answered the main questions quite well. If we were to do as you suggest, we lose the local markets by attrition, then the networks lose their kickback on ads and we lose better programming. D* loses money because the networks would try to bargain up the price per sub to cover the loses down the stream, and more people would say no thank you and find another provider. So you have now single handlely killed broadcast television.
Congratulations!! 
It's not THAT bad...I exaggerate for emphasis. But the way we have it works. Can it be improved? Sure. Allow us to select a neighboring significantly viewed network, but that is for overlapping DMA's....not hundreds of miles away. And there may be other simple ideas out there. But what you are suggesting WILL NOT HAPPEN
While you may claim to not be watching the local channel(s), you are still a member of your DMA as counted by the local affiliate. Those numbers are used for their ad sales. They don't claim that xx% watch every ad...they simply tell the prospective vendors/advertisers that "there are XX people living in the market and you have the opportunity to reach them if you buy ad space on our channel".
And I think TexasBrit answered the main questions quite well. If we were to do as you suggest, we lose the local markets by attrition, then the networks lose their kickback on ads and we lose better programming. D* loses money because the networks would try to bargain up the price per sub to cover the loses down the stream, and more people would say no thank you and find another provider. So you have now single handlely killed broadcast television.
Congratulations!! It's not THAT bad...I exaggerate for emphasis. But the way we have it works. Can it be improved? Sure. Allow us to select a neighboring significantly viewed network, but that is for overlapping DMA's....not hundreds of miles away. And there may be other simple ideas out there. But what you are suggesting WILL NOT HAPPEN
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So, require everyone to take their local dma's plus permit them to purchase additional ones. That way the local market can still state accurately that XX people living in the market that you have the opportunity to reach. In the end, do you really think 100's of thousands of people would buy additional dma's? It would have little if any effect at all.
If the locals dry up, someone else will take their place if their is a void that truly needs filled. You are making the same argument that terrestrial radio made to fight satellite radio. What has happened? Some terrestrial radio stations are not on XM like WLW out of Cincy. Has it hurt anything? No, but it has helped them gain listenership.
No one is stopping you from offering your ideas to E* or D*. In fact, good luck! But it won't wash. The gov't, believe it or not, is actually helping you by requiring the exemption for receiving the DNS network feeds...if your local affiliates approve the request. But that is limited to the East/West Coast "mothership" feeds from the network sources themselves. Those networks are on CONUS beams and reach everyone who is allowed to get them. But the non-NYC/LA feeds are all spot beamed so no dice on getting anything else.
While you may claim to not be watching the local channel(s), you are still a member of your DMA as counted by the local affiliate. Those numbers are used for their ad sales. They don't claim that xx% watch every ad...they simply tell the prospective vendors/advertisers that "there are XX people living in the market and you have the opportunity to reach them if you buy ad space on our channel".
And I think TexasBrit answered the main questions quite well. If we were to do as you suggest, we lose the local markets by attrition, then the networks lose their kickback on ads and we lose better programming. D* loses money because the networks would try to bargain up the price per sub to cover the loses down the stream, and more people would say no thank you and find another provider. So you have now single handlely killed broadcast television.
It's not THAT bad...I exaggerate for emphasis. But the way we have it works. Can it be improved? Sure. Allow us to select a neighboring significantly viewed network, but that is for overlapping DMA's....not hundreds of miles away. And there may be other simple ideas out there. But what you are suggesting WILL NOT HAPPEN
So, require everyone to take their local dma's plus permit them to purchase additional ones. That way the local market can still state accurately that XX people living in the market that you have the opportunity to reach. In the end, do you really think 100's of thousands of people would buy additional dma's? It would have little if any effect at all.
If the locals dry up, someone else will take their place if their is a void that truly needs filled. You are making the same argument that terrestrial radio made to fight satellite radio. What has happened? Some terrestrial radio stations are not on XM like WLW out of Cincy. Has it hurt anything? No, but it has helped them gain listenership.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I remember this in the news too...
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$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone
A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.I remember this in the news too...
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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank 
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Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phoneHello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank
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a good surge protector will help to.Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank
