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Ok, so I know not all HOA's would be as obsurd as this one, but the fact that a HOA can tell you how you can and can not use your property and how you can and can not keep your property just angers me to no end! This story just goes to show you how overboard and HOA can get!

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HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION HAS PROBLEM WITH RESIDENT'S FORD PICKUP
Tuesday, August 19, 2008

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If there's one thing Texans are serious about, it's pickups.

But a Frisco man says his truck is being targeted simply because his homeowners association doesn't think it's classy enough.

Jim Greenwood said he never dreamed his HOA would have a problem with his new Ford F-150 pickup. Then he received the first of three notices threatening him with fines.

"Mr. Greenwood, you're violating a subdivision rule that prohibits pickup trucks in your driveway," the notice reads.

Stonebriar HOA rules allow several luxury trucks on driveways, including the Cadillac Escalade, Chevy Avalanche, Honda Ridgeline and Lincoln Mark LT.

But most Ford, Dodge or Chevy pickups are restricted.

"It's very frustrating and confusing. It's hard to imagine how an HOA would try to dictate what type of vehicle you can drive and park in your driveway," Mr. Greenwood said.

Bill Osborn of the HOA board said the association also prohibits boats, trailers, golf carts and RVs in driveways.

"The high-end vehicles that are allowed are plush with amenities and covers on the back. It doesn't look like a pickup," he said. "It's fancier."

Mr. Greenwood appealed, claiming his Ford F-150 isn't much different from the Lincoln Mark LT.

"The response was: 'It's our belief that Lincoln markets to a different class of people,' " he said.

"Furthermore, one board member told my wife that if we don't like it, we can move."

HOA officials said that many Stonebriar homeowners own pickups but that they abide by the rules and keep them parked in their garages.

"A Chevy Suburban can be in the driveway," Mr. Greenwood said. "If we had a big Hummer, that could be in the driveway. If we had a Lincoln Mark LT, that could be in the driveway. But a Ford F-150 can't.

"That doesn't make sense."

McKinney Ford dealer Bob Tomes agreed. In Texas, he said, truck owners should have the right to park their pickups on their driveways – even in a gated community.
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charper1
THEY ARE THE MINORITY!


Like I said, you are taking some actual cases and GROSS EXAGGERATING the remaining majority. YOU need to post research stats that show valid proof that the MAJORITY of HOAs are criminal ridden MOBs. We all agree that the "grass cutting day assignments" and "no pickups" and such are crazy rules that do exist; but those ARE EXCEPTIONS vs the MAJORITY. You are cherry picking a FEW and painting them ALL with the same brush just like racists do with stereotypes and ethnic slurs. Show me valid majority proof and we can continue to discuss. ANY website can claim anything and post some very compelling real world examples BUT that does not in any way mean or prove that just because THEY say it means ALL HOAs are that way; it simply means they have found those particular few.

My own personal research; I have lived in 6 HOAs in my life and NONE (did you read that?) NONE exhibiting ANY of the qualities or actions you have mentioned. I know countless others in my transfers around the nations that all mention the exact same feelings. But these are only personal experiences and not documented research stats which you should be able to provide since you say the majority of HOAs are so bad that any one of us would expect that there is a govt study to rid that nation of this plague. Although the exact opposite is true; HOAs are GROWING NATIONALLY because of exactly what the majority of them (the good ones) provide and assist in providing to both their members and the community as a whole.
DSpud
THEY ARE THE MINORITY!


Like I said, you are taking some actual cases and GROSS EXAGGERATING the remaining majority. YOU need to post research stats that show valid proof that the MAJORITY of HOAs are criminal ridden MOBs. We all agree that the "grass cutting day assignments" and "no pickups" and such are crazy rules that do exist; but those ARE EXCEPTIONS vs the MAJORITY. You are cherry picking a FEW and painting them ALL with the same brush just like racists do with stereotypes and ethnic slurs. Show me valid majority proof and we can continue to discuss. ANY website can claim anything and post some very compelling real world examples BUT that does not in any way mean or prove that just because THEY say it means ALL HOAs are that way; it simply means they have found those particular few.

My own personal research; I have lived in 6 HOAs in my life and NONE (did you read that?) NONE exhibiting ANY of the qualities or actions you have mentioned. I know countless others in my transfers around the nations that all mention the exact same feelings. But these are only personal experiences and not documented research stats which you should be able to provide since you say the majority of HOAs are so bad that any one of us would expect that there is a govt study to rid that nation of this plague. Although the exact opposite is true; HOAs are GROWING NATIONALLY because of exactly what the majority of them (the good ones) provide and assist in providing to both their members and the community as a whole.

You are not the only one that says how most HOA's provide to its members, but yet I haven't heard how. The only significant ways they can provide to my property is to pay my homeowners insurance or pay my morgage. I would like someone to list to me some benefits to living in a HOA.

Also another question, how can a HOA FORCE you to be a member? If you want to buy a parcel of land in a certain place, how can a non-government group force you to be a member if you do not want to be without being part of city, county, or state law? The whole things sounds like a racket to me.
navychop
Also another question, how can a HOA FORCE you to be a member? If you want to buy a parcel of land in a certain place, how can a non-government group force you to be a member if you do not want to be without being part of city, county, or state law? The whole things sounds like a racket to me.

When you buy the property, you sign on to covenants, incl HOA. No agree, no buy. Some municipalities and other governments are requiring HOAs under certain circumstances. Those local governments will force you to comply- and to PAY!
DSpud
When you buy the property, you sign on to covenants, incl HOA. No agree, no buy. Some municipalities and other governments are requiring HOAs under certain circumstances. Those local governments will force you to comply- and to PAY!


HOW can one private citizen, selling to another private citizen, REQUIRE you to sign into an organization as a requirement to purchase a home? It has to be written into law, obviously. I just have never seen that kind of law. You would have to have some pretty damn crooked politicians in an area to even allow that!
TheForce
HOW can one private citizen, selling to another private citizen, REQUIRE you to sign into an organization as a requirement to purchase a home? It has to be written into law, obviously. I just have never seen that kind of law. You would have to have some pretty damn crooked politicians in an area to even allow that!

Its called contract law. You enter into a contract with terms you agree to and if not you have to pay the consequence. If you don't like the terms of the contract, don't sign. It may be that there is a contract that requires all home buyers sign that contract or no sale. I've heard stories of high pressure sales pitches to convince buyers, It's OK to sign. You have to be responsible and do what you think is best. I have no problem with any person of the age of consent signing and agreeing to do anything legal. There is nothing in those HOA's that is illegal. When there is by exception, such as the FCC protection for antenna, you, as a signer of the HOA rules are exempt from that illegal stipulation in the contract. If you read your HOA contract closely you will also find a clause that says, if any PART of this contract is found to be illegal, it does not automatically make the rest of the contract null and void.

I say if you agree in a contract to allow an HOA to dictate to you how you are to live your life than you get what you agreed to. Some people like that. Many don't.
I respect any community who has a HOA and simply will not even consider a home in that environment. Having an HOA reduces the market for sales and that's what the HOA members want.
DSpud
I understand how it would work in the case of a developer. I was just wondering how a normal neighborhood, say a couple of city blocks of normal homes, could put together an HOA and then all of a sudden make anyone that wants to sell or buy a house on that block be required to take part in the HOA. For example, if they start an HOA in my neighborhood, and I choose to take part in it. I want to sell my house to someone else. How in gods name could they REQUIRE the new buyers to be part of the HOA?
Bobby
What Tony and Don say is exactly correct. It doesn't stop at HOAs either. I own a home in a tract, in fact over time I have owned 4 homes in tracts. The deed to each and every home, on land that I own, stipulates that I have no mineral or oil rights on that land. In other words, if I find oil or gold on my property, I can't sell it. Those rights belong to the original property owner who subdivided. That's how it is folks....
harshness
When did Honda become a luxury marque and the Ridgeline anything more than a goofy looking pickup?
jayn_j
When did Honda become a luxury marque and the Ridgeline anything more than a goofy looking pickup?

I wondered the same thing. Chey Avalanche, yes. Ford F-150, no. :confused:
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Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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Last of the Dogmen is my favorite of hers.
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Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

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Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
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6:43p Central was dumped off the site, then when I got back on could not reply to post. Down for several minutes.
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6:43p Central was dumped off the site, then when I got back on could not reply to post. Down for several minutes.
Yeah... that was me...

I did another security update and it required me to reboot the server.

I also did a patch for something else and accidently put two ;'s in the config file so when the server rebooted it wouldn't restart a service because of the extra ; in the config file.

And of course as I did it my step dad called me slowing me down in figuring it out.

That was a Scott mistake. Sorry about that.
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
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when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 28 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 28 2026 vs Oct 21 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 0 TID 28 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D16@101, TPN 29
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
A few remaps
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
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Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM9:00 PM10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSNThunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League PassNonePistons (745) @ HornetsKings (755) @ Mavericks (756)Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)Raptors @ Clippers (766)
Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
Wizards (752) @ Magic
Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts*No Bucks local broadcast*No Raptors local broadcast
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Only the Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, Avalanche, Sharks and Bruins feeds will be using remaps of 24/7 RSNs that night. The rest will be relying on the part time feeds, including the Nuggets, Blackhawks and Kings who will be on their alt/overflow channels, and MSG Western NY will be live on channel 635-1 to carry Buffalo area ads during the Knicks game.

The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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Take It Easy - The Eagles
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Take It as It Comes - Steve Winwood
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Take The Money and Run - Steve Miller Band
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Run Joe -- Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five
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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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Not in a hurry to watch it this time.
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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
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One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!