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How worried are you E* customers that stuck are in contracts, about the direction E* seems to be going?
With the Local HD that were supposed to laund July 30th ,that still haven't. The LOW numbers per quarter.
The dropping of channels without notice
Lawsuits (TiVO)
Lawsuits (Voom)
Disagreements with FOX.
The Satellite failures, and Launches that failed.
Again whats the feeling about this?
Directv back with Tivo
MLB Pack, Now MLB Channel

Please explain your answers.
How Worried are you about the Future of E*
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How worried are you E* customers that stuck are in contracts, about the direction E* seems to be going?
With the Local HD that were supposed to laund July 30th ,that still haven't. The LOW numbers per quarter.
The dropping of channels without notice
Lawsuits (TiVO)
Lawsuits (Voom)
Disagreements with FOX.
The Satellite failures, and Launches that failed.
Again whats the feeling about this?
Directv back with Tivo
MLB Pack, Now MLB Channel

Please explain your answers.

Hemi, you hit the nail on the head.

Im out of contract and downgraded my service because of thier( dishes) shananigans
with Voom.

But to see how they play hardball with providers is just poor bussinesss.
Why does Charlie conduct bussiness like this?

I can understand getting the lowest price, but pulling channels off the air because
you want to is just stupid. I know Walmart strangles their suppliers into submission with lower prices. This kind of sounds like Charlie at Dish.

I think dish, to me, is running scared. This whole Turbo Hd? Ive had the service with all HD..Whats in the name???

If dish can treat their venders poorly.. Why would they care about the subs???
StonesCat
Hemi, you hit the nail on the head.

Im out of contract and downgraded my service because of thier( dishes) shananigans
with Voom.

But to see how they play hardball with providers is just poor bussinesss.
Why does Charlie conduct bussiness like this?

I can understand getting the lowest price, but pulling channels off the air because
you want to is just stupid. I know Walmart strangles their suppliers into submission with lower prices. This kind of sounds like Charlie at Dish.

I think dish, to me, is running scared. This whole Turbo Hd? Ive had the service with all HD..Whats in the name???

If dish can treat their venders poorly.. Why would they care about the subs???


I don't know who's in the right, but you talk like these "vendors" are providing free programming for Dish to carry as a public service. I can remember my cable company back in the 90s dropping MTV for 2 or 3 years, back when people actually cared about that channel, and not having ESPN2 for years after launch. Everybody plays the same games, there's probably tons of near misses on every provider that no one hears about.
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I don't know who's in the right, but you talk like these "vendors" are providing free programming for Dish to carry as a public service. I can remember my cable company back in the 90s dropping MTV for 2 or 3 years, back when people actually cared about that channel, and not having ESPN2 for years after launch. Everybody plays the same games, there's probably tons of near misses on every provider that no one hears about.
And let us not forget about the millions of cable customers who did not get the Big 10 Network last fall.
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And let us not forget about the millions of cable customers who did not get the Big 10 Network last fall.

Anyone living in the Los Angeles area should still have a faint memory regarding Time Warner Cable having a dispute with the local ABC station (if I remember correctly - correct me if I'm wrong) and it being yanked off of their system for a short amount of time - I think it was about a week or so. Speaking of Time Warner Cable, did they ever reach an agreement with NFL Network (another popular dispute)?
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Speaking of Time Warner Cable, did they ever reach an agreement with NFL Network (another popular dispute)?

NO to the NFL Network question. Still not available on TWC.

They just inked a deal with the Big Ten Network on 8/26/08 to carry football games on the analog, digital, and HD version of the channel.

At least here in NW Pennsylvania, and NE Ohio.

It is available now.
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Not worried at all!

There is always Comcast cable, D* and soon Verizon.

Life is good
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Yes, but not because I'm a customer of theirs. I think it's a shame that the TV industry is so hostile against smaller companies. Let's face it, in 4 or 5 years, the only 2 media distribution hubs will be Comcast and Time Warner, maybe AT&T and FIOS will still be selling TV service, and by then I'd expect AT&T and Verizon to be making a deal to become one.

That's half the reason I *DON'T* want comcast. I don't want to support monopolies, I'm all for choice, and the day DirecTV and Dish Net merge I'm going to be sad.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Oh....you were serious
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So after some heavy research, it looks like the issue I mentioned with the DISH 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes where on the 50.0/52.0 remotes, the dedicated TV Power button or on the 54.x remotes where it is using the TV button on the side followed by Power works correctly on a Hopper 3 which runs Linux but not on a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 which are Android TV (ATV) has to do with the Android TV software itself. In all instances, the remotes had always sent out a dual RF and Infrared signal when the TV Power signal is sent from the remote. The Hopper 3 without the Plus would ignore the incoming RF power packet signal which is identified as a TV-specific toggle event, and does not trigger a system-wide standby state. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 as Android TV devices initially worked the same way as well up to sometime in 2025 as there was the legacy pass-through mode in the original software versions used since the Hopper Plus/Joey 4/Wireless Joey 4 launch, the receiver's underlying software essentially ignored the secondary RF payload that the 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes blasted out whenever the TV Power signal was sent. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 recognized it was a TV-specific command and discarded the RF packet, letting the standalone IR signal do its job on the tv.

When the software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 were updated in 2025 and newer versions of the software for those Android TV (ATV) devices, it overhauled how the receiver handles remote commands to tighter integrate the Android TV environment which resulted in the software starting to treat any RF power toggle payload as a global command. As the newer software verion(s) no longer filters out the concurrent RF blast from the 50.0/52.0/54.0 remotes, the moment one sends a TV Power signal from the remote, the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 catches that unintended RF payloadand interpets it as a command to drop the system into standby.

The fix is really simple since the Android TV (ATV) software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 just needs to be programmed to drop or ignore the specific RF power packets associated with the TV Power signal sequence.

The problem could also be at the remotes firmware as the remote's firmware has an engineering defect. When you try to turn off the TV, the remote's internal code mistakenly triggers its RF transmitter alongside its IR transmitter. It should only be firing the IR light blast. Because it forces a simultaneous broadcast, the remote's firmware is the original source of the problem.

The Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey firmware has a filtering defect. Good software design dictating peripheral inputs should include "error handling"—rules that tell the system what to do with messy or unintended commands.
• The legacy Hopper 3 firmware has proper error handling; it sees the remote's rogue RF packet and safely ignores it.
• The Android TV firmware in the Hopper Plu, Joey 4 and Wireless lacks this filtering logic. It blindly accepts the rogue RF packet and misinterprets it as a legitimate signal to force the entire system into standby.

If the remote didn't have a firmware bug, it wouldn't send the phantom RF signal. If the Android TV (ATV) device being the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 didn't have a firmware bug, it would cleanly ignore the signal just like the Hopper 3 does.

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That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.
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That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.

This is exactly the same issue I was having as I had the Hopper 3 and 54 remote without the Hopper Plus and the symptoms were virtually identical to yours.
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Jimbo

If there was a way to put itself in a loop and keep going forever, would be awesome .... I see eventually he hot it there, the trick is to be able to Hang up and move on with your life, while it still goes forever.
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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It's only available for streaming customers, they still haven't added that batch of CW stations to satellite.

Even if it was, satellite customers still can't stream their CW affiliates via the app, just the Big 4, select PBS stations and some independents (mainly the ones that have full season NHL/NBA rights)
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WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
145​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
-2​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps