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Hey people. First off I'm new, from NS Canada, I consider myself a pretty advanced tech person and I'm about to enter into the world of FTA. These forums, and other sites are packed full of info, and I've done a couple days of research but can't seem to find any topic that touches on what I'd like to know. My main concern when buying a FTA receiver is how the PVR is going to function with HD channels. I'm currently debating getting the trusted SV8000HD (seems to have the most support) or I'm considering waiting for the CW4000HD to come out (also the NFusionHD looks good too) your opinion on that is welcome but here is the issue I'd like to know about. The receivers I've listed have dual tuners. So I can record something and watch something else. Great. I can set up a future recording too. Great. But I'm aware of the issues that hard drives have with trying to keep with the amount of data that is getting passed to them from a HD signal. So first question
How easy is it to set up future recording with the SV8000HD? Is it like a normal PVR where you can have a bunch of series recordings (I have 20 or more already on my current HD PVR so that will be my minimum need).
In order for me to be able to use an FTA ReceiverI need to be able to just set it up once and have them tape all the future episodes of that show at that recording time. Otherwise my wife won't let me keep it in our living room. HAHAHAHA..... seriously.....
^_^ So is that doable with the SV8000HD? Doable with the CW4000HD? (I'm guessing it's probably doable with any FTA PVR Receiver? but I'd like the people who have these already to chime in as I haven't been able to track down any evidence).
Most importantly though, HD. How well does HD record? This is crucial. Will it be choppy? I can handle an occasional flicker / audio drop / shutter. But only if it's like once every hour of recording and last less than a couple seconds. If HD recording isn't smooth then there is little hope for me to get a FTA PVR.
Also, a side question - Is the speed of the Hard Drive crucial to how HD works with an FTA receiver PVR (obviously if I get a receiver I'd get a drive with at least 7200.... but is that too slow... or does the hard drive speed even matter for a PVR?)
Thanks for taking the time to read through all that and send any input you want. (and if you have any suggestions for my choice in receiver I'm open to your input ^_^).
How easy is it to set up future recording with the SV8000HD? Is it like a normal PVR where you can have a bunch of series recordings (I have 20 or more already on my current HD PVR so that will be my minimum need).
In order for me to be able to use an FTA ReceiverI need to be able to just set it up once and have them tape all the future episodes of that show at that recording time. Otherwise my wife won't let me keep it in our living room. HAHAHAHA..... seriously.....
^_^ So is that doable with the SV8000HD? Doable with the CW4000HD? (I'm guessing it's probably doable with any FTA PVR Receiver? but I'd like the people who have these already to chime in as I haven't been able to track down any evidence). Most importantly though, HD. How well does HD record? This is crucial. Will it be choppy? I can handle an occasional flicker / audio drop / shutter. But only if it's like once every hour of recording and last less than a couple seconds. If HD recording isn't smooth then there is little hope for me to get a FTA PVR.
Also, a side question - Is the speed of the Hard Drive crucial to how HD works with an FTA receiver PVR (obviously if I get a receiver I'd get a drive with at least 7200.... but is that too slow... or does the hard drive speed even matter for a PVR?)
Thanks for taking the time to read through all that and send any input you want. (and if you have any suggestions for my choice in receiver I'm open to your input ^_^).
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Yes, we do get a lot of folks trolling through, looking to receive Dish Network programming.
Your post wasn't very clear on the subject, so...
Also, if you'd done some homework on the HD programming, it'd be obvious that there isn't a whole lot to go around.
I hate to see anyone get into FTA with high expectations, and be disappointed.
I'd recommend you get a standard def system and learn the ropes.
We're here to help with that. - :up
The HD-capable receivers satisfy the needs of their users... who aren't necessarily the end-user (appliance operator) type.
Many take a bit of coddling (the receivers, not the users) -
Check out the threads in our Equipment Review department, for all the HD receivers.
I think you'll get quite an education.
Don't know how you came to the decision to get a SonicView 8000.
Must've read reviews somewhere.
Tell us and we'll all go read 'em , too.
I don't have an HD receiver for a number of reasons.
But most will let you record on timers like a VCR.
That is to say, no "guide-based" recording... because there is no guide to use.
Your post wasn't very clear on the subject, so...
Also, if you'd done some homework on the HD programming, it'd be obvious that there isn't a whole lot to go around.
I hate to see anyone get into FTA with high expectations, and be disappointed.
I'd recommend you get a standard def system and learn the ropes.
We're here to help with that. - :up
The HD-capable receivers satisfy the needs of their users... who aren't necessarily the end-user (appliance operator) type.
Many take a bit of coddling (the receivers, not the users) -
Check out the threads in our Equipment Review department, for all the HD receivers.
I think you'll get quite an education.
Don't know how you came to the decision to get a SonicView 8000.
Must've read reviews somewhere.
Tell us and we'll all go read 'em , too.
I don't have an HD receiver for a number of reasons.
But most will let you record on timers like a VCR.
That is to say, no "guide-based" recording... because there is no guide to use.
tell 'em twice
quote from two days ago:
We'll just get two guys to tell ya and you'll be up to speed in no time. -
It was pretty obvious where you were getting your (mis)information.
But, now that you've found this forum, there's help available on all aspects of FTA.
As RV1pop mentioned above (he lives in a super windy location) the commercial molded dishes are excellent.
If you can find one that's no longer in service (locally) then there's no shipping and usually no cost.
This forum is full of info on using/converting such dishes (around 1 meter).
Ya need to be an opportunist and take what you can find at the time.
Worrying that today's purchase might be eclipsed by something better tomorrow, isn't so helpful.
Every piece of equipment brings experience, and will be educational.
So, that means if you locate a dish that isn't quite what you want, it might still be better than nothing.
Use it, while looking for better.
Later, you might find a secondary use for it, sell it, give it away, or use it to start some newbie down the road to FTA.
It's not uncommon for member here to ship spare equipment to others.
I sent a test LNB to someone half way across the country.
He liked it, and then purchased half-dozen from the vendor who had 'em.
One nice fellow sent me some LNBs with special feed horns that he didn't want.
Another sent me a dead motor to play with.
I reimbursed them for shipping, and everybody is happy.
If you have time in your schedule to experiment with FTA, you could find the folks on this forum your best resource. - :up
There are many different directions to pursue in FTA.
Some channels have superb digital picture quality without being hi def.
If you are worried about finding shows to watch, you can set some receivers to record a 24 hour block of time.
I like to make DVDs of some shows.
Sports feeds are very popular, and if you mention a team, you'll probably make several friends immediately -
About half of the American TV networks can be found on Ku-band.
The rest of 'em are on C-band.
If access to that programming is interesting, FTA can help.
There's foreign language channels who sometimes have news or other shows in English.
They give a different perspective on the situation in their part of the world.
One has American movies ( in English) with foreign subtitles, or in the foreign language with English subtitles.
(I watch a local OTA TV station for a weekly drama in a foreign language with English subtitles)
But, admittedly . . . it's not for everyone.
Maybe you'll find a niche that is interesting.
quote from two days ago:
Okay now. We got your number -
We'll just get two guys to tell ya and you'll be up to speed in no time. -
It was pretty obvious where you were getting your (mis)information.
But, now that you've found this forum, there's help available on all aspects of FTA.
As RV1pop mentioned above (he lives in a super windy location) the commercial molded dishes are excellent.
If you can find one that's no longer in service (locally) then there's no shipping and usually no cost.
This forum is full of info on using/converting such dishes (around 1 meter).
Ya need to be an opportunist and take what you can find at the time.
Worrying that today's purchase might be eclipsed by something better tomorrow, isn't so helpful.
Every piece of equipment brings experience, and will be educational.
So, that means if you locate a dish that isn't quite what you want, it might still be better than nothing.
Use it, while looking for better.
Later, you might find a secondary use for it, sell it, give it away, or use it to start some newbie down the road to FTA.
It's not uncommon for member here to ship spare equipment to others.
I sent a test LNB to someone half way across the country.
He liked it, and then purchased half-dozen from the vendor who had 'em.
One nice fellow sent me some LNBs with special feed horns that he didn't want.
Another sent me a dead motor to play with.
I reimbursed them for shipping, and everybody is happy.
If you have time in your schedule to experiment with FTA, you could find the folks on this forum your best resource. - :up
There are many different directions to pursue in FTA.
Some channels have superb digital picture quality without being hi def.
If you are worried about finding shows to watch, you can set some receivers to record a 24 hour block of time.
I like to make DVDs of some shows.
Sports feeds are very popular, and if you mention a team, you'll probably make several friends immediately -
About half of the American TV networks can be found on Ku-band.
The rest of 'em are on C-band.
If access to that programming is interesting, FTA can help.
There's foreign language channels who sometimes have news or other shows in English.
They give a different perspective on the situation in their part of the world.
One has American movies ( in English) with foreign subtitles, or in the foreign language with English subtitles.
(I watch a local OTA TV station for a weekly drama in a foreign language with English subtitles)
But, admittedly . . . it's not for everyone.
Maybe you'll find a niche that is interesting.
This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
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'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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