It's fixed. There were two problems. Problem #1 one was still there from the first time. Problem #2, the tech. that came out last week just stuck the coax on the connecter at the LNB. That's why when I checked it with the other receiver, I had the same problem. The Tech that came out today, quickly found that. First place he looked. So back in the house we go, turn everything on, all is good. I told him sorry, I should have checked that myself, but it was dark when I got home from work last night, and didn't want to mess with it then. SPIDERS!!!! We don't get along. He says no problem, went ahead and checked the other cable connections, and said he was going to his van to get his radios to re-peak the dish while he was there. At that very moment, the signal died again. Back to the dishe we go and he started checking the voltage with this little plug looking thing that would give a tone if voltage was present. Back tracked all the way to the 625, no tone. So now I have a new receiver, and life in my house hold is back to normal, errrrr, back to the way it was before this major catastrophy. I asked him why it worked after the first guy swapped out LNBs, and he said it was on it's last leg and those things happen with electrinics sometimes. Thanks for the tips all. I appreciate it.