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Matinthehat

Last reply Oct 23, 2008 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Installation didn't happen. Advice?

Hello.

A couple weeks ago I ordered Dish and when the installer arrived he 1. was very frustrated that he couldn't find my house (the one with the big numbers stating my address on it) and 2. told me that there were trees in the way and he couldn't install and left.

Now I do live in the Santa Cruz mountains and there are a lot of trees. However, I got out my trusty compass and there's a clear path in the S.E. direction based on what I'm reading on the Dish website.

I also think the azimuth is good here as well. I'm reading that the angle should be about 35 degrees which is just above the tops of a ridge of trees.

Looking at another Dish install about a mile down the road it appears to be angled more like 40 degrees.

Should I contact Dish and have them send this guy out again? I would actually prefer a self-install if possible - does dish allow that? (If the guy was right then I could just send the equipment back without wasting his time.) I have a 500 from a previous install minus the Lnb and receiver.

Thanks for any advice!

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rich88

Oct 21, 2008

Matinthehat said:
Hello.

A couple weeks ago I ordered Dish and when the installer arrived he 1. was very frustrated that he couldn't find my house (the one with the big numbers stating my address on it) and 2. told me that there were trees in the way and he couldn't install and left.

Now I do live in the Santa Cruz mountains and there are a lot of trees. However, I got out my trusty compass and there's a clear path in the S.E. direction based on what I'm reading on the Dish website.

I also think the azimuth is good here as well. I'm reading that the angle should be about 35 degrees which is just above the tops of a ridge of trees.

Looking at another Dish install about a mile down the road it appears to be angled more like 40 degrees.

Should I contact Dish and have them send this guy out again? I would actually prefer a self-install if possible - does dish allow that? (If the guy was right then I could just send the equipment back without wasting his time.) I have a 500 from a previous install minus the Lnb and receiver.

Thanks for any advice!

Oh hell yes. Go for it.

Installing a system ain't nuthin. Any moron can do it.:up:up:up

kvnfl

Oct 21, 2008

My first dish install was scheduled and canceled on Saturday. There was an F1 race the following Sunday. I hopped in the car, went to Home Depot and bought a ladder. When I got up to the roof line it looked like a tree might obstruct LOS soon. Did a quick site survey and found an appropriate backyard location. Back to Home Depot. Bought a 5 gallon bucket, short section of galvonized fence post and bag of quick dry cement. As soon as I got home, I mixed cement in the 5 gallon bucket. Let it dry for about 15 minutes and then inserted the pole using a level for alignment. Went out back with a shovel and dug a hole the same size as the bucket. After running the wire, I lowered the bucket in to the hole, leveled and secured it. Installed the dish on the pole adjusting as best I could to the approximate satellite location. Wife was inside watching the signal strength meter on TV via the sat receiver. We communicated with walkie talkies to find the best signal. Word of caution here - very small movements produce dramatic changes. After about 15 minutes of tuning, I tightened everything down. Figured I could bury cable at a later date. The next morning I swear the picture was so good I could see Schumacher blink. So yes, you can self install, but it may take a while.

Andrewwski

Oct 21, 2008

Santa Cruz...no, that'd be Southeast.

webbydude

Oct 22, 2008

Andrewwski said:
Santa Cruz...no, that'd be Southeast.

You are correct. My fault. !sadroll

152 degrees (SE) from what my Point Dish is showing for Santa Cruz.

Off topic: must be nice as an installer to have a 46 degree EL. 32 degrees around here can be tough.

Matinthehat

Oct 23, 2008

rich88 said:
Oh hell yes. Go for it.

Installing a system ain't nuthin. Any moron can do it.:up:up:up

Thanks for the advice everyone - I'm the perfect moron to do the job!

I'll let y'all know how it turns out.

WiCkeDuDe

Oct 23, 2008

Matinthehat said:
Thanks for the advice everyone - I'm the perfect moron to do the job! I'll let y'all know how it turns out.

I say go for it. It may work and it may not but what harm can it do. Finding a dish 500 is easy and cheap. I commend you for trying and finding out more how things work. The education can help you out later if you move or have sat problems as well. Too many people nowadays just bitch about things when they have no clue how they work or care to even find out!

rich88

Oct 23, 2008

Matinthehat said:
Thanks for the advice everyone - I'm the perfect moron to do the job! I'll let y'all know how it turns out.

Seriously, good luck.

benpatient

Oct 23, 2008

kvnfl said:
My first dish install was scheduled and canceled on Saturday. There was an F1 race the following Sunday. I hopped in the car, went to Home Depot and bought a ladder. When I got up to the roof line it looked like a tree might obstruct LOS soon. Did a quick site survey and found an appropriate backyard location. Back to Home Depot. Bought a 5 gallon bucket, short section of galvonized fence post and bag of quick dry cement. As soon as I got home, I mixed cement in the 5 gallon bucket. Let it dry for about 15 minutes and then inserted the pole using a level for alignment. Went out back with a shovel and dug a hole the same size as the bucket. After running the wire, I lowered the bucket in to the hole, leveled and secured it. Installed the dish on the pole adjusting as best I could to the approximate satellite location. Wife was inside watching the signal strength meter on TV via the sat receiver. We communicated with walkie talkies to find the best signal. Word of caution here - very small movements produce dramatic changes. After about 15 minutes of tuning, I tightened everything down. Figured I could bury cable at a later date. The next morning I swear the picture was so good I could see Schumacher blink. So yes, you can self install, but it may take a while.

what channel is showing HD F1 races on Dish?

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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

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Therm

Last reply Today at 8:46 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?

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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

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Therm

Friday at 3:39 PM

dishdude said:
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"

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"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"

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Therm said:
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?

I think most are using it on a firestick or other device as an extra receiver, rather than their phone. Just a guess based on how I use it. 99% thru my firestick, 1% phone.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 1:30 PM

I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 3:47 PM

reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

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Yesterday at 3:54 PM

long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.

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Today at 7:35 AM

long_time_Dish said:
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.

Those are the episodes I am looking for. They are referred to a lot in the episodes I just recently watched.

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Hybrid Dish setup

Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
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Brct203

Oct 13, 2026

would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow

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one_db_compression

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If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

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I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
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Sunday at 3:38 PM

Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
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To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit

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Last reply Yesterday at 10:34 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

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naptime

Sunday at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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jsmit86

Yesterday at 9:57 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 3:57 PM

jsmit86 said:
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 4:07 PM

jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.