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I recently upgraded to two ViP722's. Prior to the upgrade I had DishDVR Advantage with America's Top 250 and locals. When I upgraded, I was told that I would have to pay $10 a month more for the HD programming. Both of my receivers are connected to a phone line and one is also connected to my broadband DSL.

According to Dish's website, here is what my programming currently is:
Current Programming: GoldHD, America's Top 200
Local Channels: Birmingham, AL DMA Package
Premium Channels: N/A

International or
A La Carte or Add-ons: DISH Network DVR Service Fee, Fox Sports South, SportSouth, PROGRAMMING ACCESS FEE, AMERICA'S TOP 250 BONUS PAK, DISH'n It Up 1st HD AO

Also, it shows my current charges as:

2 Premium Package $20.00

DishDVR Advantage, You Saved $5.98! $49.99

Fees $17.98*

Total $87.97

*The fees are DISH Network DVR Service Fee $5.98; DIU HD Receiver Fee 2 $7.00; and Programming Access Fee $5.00.

My questions are these:

1.) Do I have to have the GoldHD just because I have the 722's?
2.) Is the Gold HD the $10.00 charge the CSR told me about when I upgraded?
3.) What is "First HD AO"?
4.) What is "2 Premium Package $20.00"? Is this the $10 fee the CSR told me about X 2? If so, why would I be charged this twice?
5.) Is the "DIU HD Receiver Fee 2 $7.00" the lease fee for the 772, as I assume?
6.) Is the "Programming Access Fee $5.00" for NOT having a receiver connected to either a phone or broadband line? If, so why would I be charged since both of mine are connected to one or both?

Thanks for any thoughts on this matter.
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I recently upgraded to two ViP722's. Prior to the upgrade I had DishDVR Advantage with America's Top 250 and locals. When I upgraded, I was told that I would have to pay $10 a month more for the HD programming. Both of my receivers are connected to a phone line and one is also connected to my broadband DSL.

According to Dish's website, here is what my programming currently is:
Current Programming: GoldHD, America's Top 200
Local Channels: Birmingham, AL DMA Package
Premium Channels: N/A

International or
A La Carte or Add-ons: DISH Network DVR Service Fee, Fox Sports South, SportSouth, PROGRAMMING ACCESS FEE, AMERICA'S TOP 250 BONUS PAK, DISH'n It Up 1st HD AO

Also, it shows my current charges as:

2 Premium Package $20.00

DishDVR Advantage, You Saved $5.98! $49.99

Fees $17.98*

Total $87.97

*The fees are DISH Network DVR Service Fee $5.98; DIU HD Receiver Fee 2 $7.00; and Programming Access Fee $5.00.

My questions are these:

1.) Do I have to have the GoldHD just because I have the 722's?
2.) Is the Gold HD the $10.00 charge the CSR told me about when I upgraded?
3.) What is "First HD AO"?
4.) What is "2 Premium Package $20.00"? Is this the $10 fee the CSR told me about X 2? If so, why would I be charged this twice?
5.) Is the "DIU HD Receiver Fee 2 $7.00" the lease fee for the 772, as I assume?
6.) Is the "Programming Access Fee $5.00" for NOT having a receiver connected to either a phone or broadband line? If, so why would I be charged since both of mine are connected to one or both?

Thanks for any thoughts on this matter.

You have the 2nd tier hd programming package, termed gold. The first level HD package that corresponds to your AT 200 package is the turbo silver package and is $10 additional. They have you down for gold which is another $10 or $20 in total for your HD. this may be a mistake unless you wanted the extra HD channels. that's likely the $20 for premium packages if you don't have any premiums like HBO, Showtime, etc. If you sign up for the DVR advantage plan you'll only get dinged one HD Receiver Fee. You're currently being jabbed for 2. Since you had DVR Advantage before call E* and tell them to straighten it out. They did the same to me when I added HD and I had to get them to fix it so I didn't get hit for the DVR Receiver Fee. The $5 Programming Access Fee is likely the result of not having one of the 722s connected to a phone line or the internet during the month.
WiCkeDuDe
You have the 2nd tier hd programming package, termed gold. The first level HD package that corresponds to your AT 200 package is the turbo silver package and is $10 additional. They have you down for gold which is another $10 or $20 in total for your HD. this may be a mistake unless you wanted the extra HD channels. that's likely the $20 for premium packages if you don't have any premiums like HBO, Showtime, etc. If you sign up for the DVR advantage plan you'll only get dinged one HD Receiver Fee. You're currently being jabbed for 2. Since you had DVR Advantage before call E* and tell them to straighten it out. They did the same to me when I added HD and I had to get them to fix it so I didn't get hit for the DVR Receiver Fee. The $5 Programming Access Fee is likely the result of not having one of the 722s connected to a phone line or the internet during the month.

Dont know quite how you figured that one out. The OPis on the DVR advantage 250 plan with HD. The way they do this is to charge 49.99 for the DVR advantage 200 plan. Then they charge $10 to bump it to the 250 DVR advantage. Then they charge $10 more for the HD so thats where your getting the $20 "premium" charge.

The DVR advantage has one DVR fee built in for the 49.99. Since you have 2 722's you get a second DVR fee. Yes that is correct. You also get to pay the $7 lease fee for the second 722. The programming access fee should not be there however it both are hooked to phone lines or broadband. Double check that they are connected and dial out ok. If you have trouble still call tech support and tell them its connected. They can then modify the charge if you verify its connected.
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Thanks. That makes sense. It's the way I understood it was supposed to be. The way it is stated on the website is just VERY confusing! I'll check the phone connection on the 2nd receiver to make sure. It's plugged into a phone jack through a DSL filter (like the other receiver). I'll make sure that the jack is hot and that the connection on the back of the receiver is tight.

Thanks again.
K
I'm not going to complain too much. I went from two 510's and a 625 to two ViP722's. I still have four tuners and now get HD programming. It only costs me $1.02 a month more.
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Dont know quite how you figured that one out. The OPis on the DVR advantage 250 plan with HD. The way they do this is to charge 49.99 for the DVR advantage 200 plan. Then they charge $10 to bump it to the 250 DVR advantage. Then they charge $10 more for the HD so thats where your getting the $20 "premium" charge.

The DVR advantage has one DVR fee built in for the 49.99. Since you have 2 722's you get a second DVR fee. Yes that is correct. You also get to pay the $7 lease fee for the second 722. The programming access fee should not be there however it both are hooked to phone lines or broadband. Double check that they are connected and dial out ok. If you have trouble still call tech support and tell them its connected. They can then modify the charge if you verify its connected.

My bad. I just quickly glanced at the fees that were listed and didn't put 2+2 together and use my brain.
WiCkeDuDe
Thanks. That makes sense. It's the way I understood it was supposed to be. The way it is stated on the website is just VERY confusing! I'll check the phone connection on the 2nd receiver to make sure. It's plugged into a phone jack through a DSL filter (like the other receiver). I'll make sure that the jack is hot and that the connection on the back of the receiver is tight.

Thanks again.

Go into the system setup menu and run the diagnostic. Ive had a receiver that would not connect but was on a active jack. I ended up having to reset the receiver to make it work. You can also test the broadband connection in the menu system. I forgot exactly where its at.
K
I checked the connection at the back of the receiver and it was fine. I then checked the connection at the phone jack (actually the DSL filter), and the connection was fine. Luckily, I looked more closely, and to my surprise I realized that my DSL line, instead of the phone cord, was plugged into the phone jack. Unplugged the one and plugged in the other, and, PRESTO, I now have a phone connection to the receiver. The diagnostics tests confirmed it. I had experimented over the weekend with connecting a spare DSL modem to test the DishOnline feature. Unfortunately, I forgot to plug the phone line back in after I concluded my experiment.

Thanks for leading me to check my connection. You (Satellite)guys are great.
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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navychop
"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
Tampa8
Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
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Foxbat
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
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KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
ncted
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
ncted
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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Will do!
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Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
look again mine says free for 1 month
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look again mine says free for 1 month
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
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Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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wonder why it says that
Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.