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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
I've noticed some used CS8100 HD PVR boxes on ebay, at under $200 . Anyone care to volunteer how they like this box ? I like the CS8000 that I have, and adding a PVR capability would be sweet for HD channels. Suspect the used units are a result of Nagra 3 hitting the hacker world, and this could be a blessing .

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brentb636
It's certainly easier on the DVB-s2 stuff. Just key it in with the remote. I bought my CS8000 just for HD and DVB-S2 feeds, but now I use it as my primary box. It's not all bad , once you set it up, and with this latest firmware you can confidently (?) back up your channels and have a chance of restoring them later.

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B.J.
It's certainly easier on the DVB-s2 stuff. Just key it in with the remote. I bought my CS8000 just for HD and DVB-S2 feeds, but now I use it as my primary box. It's not all bad , once you set it up, and with this latest firmware you can confidently (?) back up your channels and have a chance of restoring them later.

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Hi
I'm curious re what has changed re to restoring channels with the newest firmware? I've completely given up hope of ever restoring channels on my 8100, mainly because of what is saved in the channel data files. Are you using the 1444a? I think that there is a 1447a version floating around too.
brentb636
No, I'm actually using version 12001F ( a now out-dated hacker file) which is the first firmware that gets rid of the 31 sat limit. Now , all the sats in the box are configurable. ( Unfortunately, I know of at least 2 bird they don't have in the box, but that can be overcome ).
What I've done is configure my CS8000 with it's typical 20 -odd birds, transfer the channelist and software to my pc, Clear out the CS8000 with the Clear_HD bin file, and then reload my custom channellist/software combo. Everything is restored. There seem to be no gotcha's , although, perhaps saved points in Diseqc 1.2 mode might have to be resaved, but all the many menu buttons to set up each bird is out of the way.

I've also asked for a Factory file in this new format, with the addition of the two missing ku birds.
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B.J.
No, I'm actually using version 12001F ( a now out-dated hacker file) which is the first firmware that gets rid of the 31 sat limit. Now , all the sats in the box are configurable. ( Unfortunately, I know of at least 2 bird they don't have in the box, but that can be overcome ).
What I've done is configure my CS8000 with it's typical 20 -odd birds, transfer the channelist and software to my pc, Clear out the CS8000 with the Clear_HD bin file, and then reload my custom channellist/software combo. Everything is restored. There seem to be no gotcha's , although, perhaps saved points in Diseqc 1.2 mode might have to be resaved, but all the many menu buttons to set up each bird is out of the way.

I've also asked for a Factory file in this new format, with the addition of the two missing ku birds.
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Thanks. Interesting.
With my first Coolsat (8100) I was trying different firmware, trying to find one with which the PVR worked. Must have tried about 4 different factory and 2 or 3 different hacker versions, but nothing worked. Then my 8100 was hit by lightning. Got a brand new one, and it was freezing/rebooting right out of the box. Sent it back no difference. I tried several different factory and a couple hacker versions, but nothing worked, until, similar to your experience, a week or two ago I tried a version, slightly older than the one you tried, and suddenly the darn thing stopped rebooting AND the PVR "WAS" working ("was" because yesterday I had a power outage/surge while using the PVR, and it seemed to fry something... I'm hoping just the external hard disk got corrupted). I was hoping that there was a factory firmware version that worked, that I could put in, but I'm afraid that if I switch, it will start rebooting again, and I won't be able to use the receiver at all. But if they have fixed that restoration of channels/31 sat limit thing, perhaps I'll give it a try, but I'm not sure which factory version to try. I think the last one I tried was 1441A. Then a 1444A came out, but it was a corrupted file, and Coolsat took it off their web page. But they recently put it back. Then I noticed that there is a 1447A floating around. I may wait to see if it shows up on the Coolsat web page and try that.
I can't remember exactly what used to happen when I'd try to restore channel data, but it got so messed up with channels that weren't associated with satellites, etc, that I had to clear the memory to recover.
The problem seemed to be partly that the BIG list of many sats, from which the 31 were selected, didn't seem to be part of the channel data file saved, so that if I defined any new satellites, of gave sats on the BIG list new LO or diseqC parameters, etc, that info would be lost. It will be nice if they have fixed that, but it seems like they'd have to change the structure of the channel data file.

Does your 8000 handle channels with multiple audio channels properly? Like yesterday, I scanned in one of those high speed network feeds which have 2 or 3 different audio channels, one of which can't be played via consumer boxes, and it came up with "no audio". So I tried to scan in via specifying the proper MPEG or AC3 audio PID, and it scanned in, but when it played, it came up with no video??? Then I went to delete the previously saved channel that wouldn't play audio, and this time it was actually playing???? So sometimes it seems to pick the right audio channel, other times it doesn't, and it doesn't (unless I couldn't find it) allow you to select an audio channel.
brentb636
I'm pretty sure that , in the past, restoring was channel list was impossible , unless your sat list matched the factory 31 sats. The indexing was all done by the sat number. Now , since all the birds are in play, I suspect the indexing is by orbital position. At any rate, I haven't had any problem restoring the previous settings with the newer design firmware.

"Does your 8000 handle channels with multiple audio channels properly? Like yesterday, I scanned in one of those high speed network feeds which have 2 or 3 different audio channels, one of which can't be played via consumer boxes, and it came up with "no audio". So I tried to scan in via specifying the proper MPEG or AC3 audio PID, and it scanned in, but when it played, it came up with no video??? Then I went to delete the previously saved channel that wouldn't play audio, and this time it was actually playing???? So sometimes it seems to pick the right audio channel, other times it doesn't, and it doesn't (unless I couldn't find it) allow you to select an audio channel."

Haven't scanned anything that matches that description, yet. Generally, when I'm chasing feeds , I blindscan with the Mercury II and then interrogate the feed using my skywalker-1 and Tsreader. The PC based system is much more flexible, and I can switch over to the tt s2-3200 , if necessary to get a different viewpoint.

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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Some of the channels start next week.

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My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't Stop - Fleetwood Mac
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Show Don't Tell - Rush
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Show and Tell - Al Wilson
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On with the Show - The Rolling Stones
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The Show Must Go On - Pink Floyd
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
sdfntx
Sorry to hear this. R.I.P.
FTA4PA
R.I.P.
dishstaller
My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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TRG
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Last reply · posted in Local Radio Discussion
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dishdude
It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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Very rarely listen to FM any more
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
dishstaller
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
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Haven't listened AM or FM in years
harshness
If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
You knew the answer before you asked it.

I can't recall having encountered a local ad on Sirius, and I don't imagine it is any different on XM.
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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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dtv757
For those dazn nba channels are they sat only or sat & streaming
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Both, and they just made it official with a multiyear deal that also includes TV Everywhere authentication for the DAZN app, and commercial distribution.

DIRECTV, the premier provider of digital television entertainment in the United States, and DAZN, the world's leading sports entertainment platform, today announced a new multi-year distribution agreement for local telecasts of Cleveland Cavaliers, Indiana Pacers, Memphis Grizzlies, Minnesota Timberwolves, and San Antonio Spurs games for DIRECTV streaming, satellite, and U-verse customers in each team's respective NBA-designated home territories.

These DAZN telecasts will be available to DIRECTV customers who subscribe to the Choice or higher packages and to U-verse TV customers who subscribe to the U200 or higher package. Each of DAZN's team services provides live pregame, postgame, and in-game coverage for the respective team.

In the coming weeks, customers who receive access to these teams via DIRECTV will also be able to login to the DAZN platform at no additional cost using their DIRECTV login credentials.

This agreement also provides distribution rights to each of the five NBA teams to all of DIRECTV FOR BUSINESS' thousands of sports bars, restaurants, fitness clubs, and other commercial venues located within each team's respective region.
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 28 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 28 2026 vs Oct 21 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 0 TID 28 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D16@101, TPN 29
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
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1449​
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SD mpeg4​
144​
-1​
194​
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SD mpeg2​
434​
1​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
A few remaps
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
TWiT Tech Podcast Network
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JSheridan
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
S
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
charlesrshell
can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
Almighty1
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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ment to 20 yrs dam phone
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BradleyD
Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
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Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
They have sling tv wich sucks ass it needs a major upgrade
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