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moreorles
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Wanting to install first OTA antenna

I am wanting to install my first OTA antenna. After doing a lot of research I decided just to ask you guys your opinion on what antenna I should get. I attached my signal chart from tvfool. Zip is 29649, Greenwood, SC. Thanks for the help! I no longer want to be a slave to my DirecTV bill! 4, 7, 13, 21 are the most important channels to me.
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KenSoren
I replaced my fringe Channel Master 3671 with a Clearstream 4 and got good results with all the HD stations out of LA which are 60 miles away. Got to admit that the old analog stations don't come in very good but the HD signals are much more stable plus I get more stations than before. The old CM measured 14ft by 9ft in size while the Clearstream is like 24in by 20 and appears to do a better job, so if you are concerned about size give the the C4 a good look.
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I replaced my fringe Channel Master 3671 with a Clearstream 4 and got good results with all the HD stations out of LA which are 60 miles away. ...
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Here we go again: Sure it works well, but that's not likely to last forever. For now, all of LA's DTV broadcasts are in the UHF band. On Feb. 18, DTV channels 7, 9, 11 and 13 migrate back to their VHF-high assignments. Capable as it might be for UHF, the C4 is not a VHF-high antenna, despite vague advertising claims to the contrary. You said it yourself: "Got to admit that the old analog stations don't come in very good." Those four channels are probably among the analog stations, aren't they? If so, that's a hint that you're very likely to be looking for a VHF-high-capable rig in late February.

My antenna-selection advice was based on the OP's stated desire to pull in a channel 7 station from 90 miles out. The C4 ain't gonna do that. I won't bad-mouth its performance -- lots of people have reported having good luck with them -- but I will take issue with its cost. For about the same price, one can buy a 91-XG. It's made by the same company and it absolutely smokes the C4.
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Here we go again: Sure it works well, but that's not likely to last forever. For now, all of LA's DTV broadcasts are in the UHF band. On Feb. 18, DTV channels 7, 9, 11 and 13 migrate back to their VHF-high assignments. Capable as it might be for UHF, the C4 is not a VHF-high antenna, despite vague advertising claims to the contrary. You said it yourself: "Got to admit that the old analog stations don't come in very good." Those four channels are probably among the analog stations, aren't they? If so, that's a hint that you're very likely to be looking for a VHF-high-capable rig in late February.

My antenna-selection advice was based on the OP's stated desire to pull in a channel 7 station from 90 miles out. The C4 ain't gonna do that. I won't bad-mouth its performance -- lots of people have reported having good luck with them -- but I will take issue with its cost. For about the same price, one can buy a 91-XG. It's made by the same company and it absolutely smokes the C4.
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You know I was hesitant to post my opinion but decided to do it anyway. Yes, I did trust the maker when they said it was a full range upper VHF and UFH antenna. The changeover in February will tell the story, but I still think the antenna is a good change for me. I didn't notice the 90 mile requirement and that is outside the 65 mile range for the C4 - too bad I can't get my old CM 3671 to someone that can use it. It's just sitting on my patio roof and I almost took my pruning shears too it a couple of days ago so I can recycle the aluminum.
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... too bad I can't get my old CM 3671 to someone that can use it. It's just sitting on my patio roof and I almost took my pruning shears too it a couple of days ago so I can recycle the aluminum.
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www.losangeles.craigslist.org. Worth a shot if it's in decent shape; easier than shearing it apart and hauling off the scrap. Someone closer to Mt. Wilson may be able to put it to good use.
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www.losangeles.craigslist.org. Worth a shot if it's in decent shape; easier than shearing it apart and hauling off the scrap. Someone closer to Mt. Wilson may be able to put it to good use.
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Did this a couple of weeks ago and got one semi-interested call but the size scared him off. Also tried the local green sheet with one flaky call and no results, so it still sits on my patio roof.

Next step is probably the "free" section of Craigs list, then if no results off to the scrap yard.
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moreorles
I appreciate all of the replies and advice. I am still weighing my options and will let you know what I go with.
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Don_M said:
www.losangeles.craigslist.org. Worth a shot if it's in decent shape; easier than shearing it apart and hauling off the scrap. Someone closer to Mt. Wilson may be able to put it to good use.
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I would cry if you cut that antenna up, too bad I wasnt closer Id' come and get it.
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It sucks for me here in Huntington, wv as we have one local station going back to High vhf channel 13 (actual channel). I put up a stacked array of UHF only antennas and now I have to get a UHF/VHF antenna. I have a radio shack vu-120 or something like that I have had new in the box for over 5 years.

I guess I will try that antenna first before buying one.
I am 25 miles away from the transmitters so it shouldn't be a problem.

I am splitting to four tv's.
and have a pre amp.

I guess the point here is you can't overbuy an antenna. More gain is generally better IMO with digital to cut out multipath (which is your enemy).
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truckracer, if you have enough room on the mast, you may wish to try combining the UHF stack with the RS antenna, using the VU-120 as VHF-only. If your pre-amp is a CM 7777, you can use its separate inputs to do this; if it isn't, buy a UVSJ online to combine the signals, connecting the UVSJ output to your pre-amp's input. Here's why: All-channel RS antennas tend to work fairly well on VHF, but not so well on UHF. The UVSJ's VHF input can be used to block UHF signals coming in from the VU-120. VHF goes four feet or more below the UHF stack. Might be worth a shot if you're happy with your current UHF antennas.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

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One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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The Diplomat (Netflix)

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After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
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One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.
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Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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