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Just read this...this is a station here in Minnesota

The "Northland's NewsCenter" has announced that "Range 11" (KRII Chisholm-Hibbing) will carry five channels once it flash-cuts to digital on Jan. 6: NBC, CBS, CW, My Network TV, and a weather channel. KRII is currently analog-only because its initial construction permit was granted after the FCC alloted digital companion channels. It signed on in 2002 as a satellite of NBC affiliate KBJR/6 (Superior, WI), which now controls the other network affiliations in the market listed above. Meanwhile, new PBS station WRPT-DT/31 (Hibbing) is expected to sign on in early 2009. WRPT-DT is expected to act as a satellite of WDSE-DT/8 (Duluth); if WRPT-DT carries four channels as WDSE does, the Iron Range will have eleven channels from three digital stations, including the two channels currently offered by ABC affiliate WIRT-DT/13 (Hibbing). Several Iron Range translators of FOX 21 (KQDS-TV Duluth) are expected to flash-cut to digital at a later date.

GOOD GOD.....5 subchannels and 4 networks on one channel?????
For the uninformed, in Duluth there is CBS with CW on subchanel, NBC with My & NBC Weather on subchannels...NBC runs CBS. IN NE MN also called the Iron Range there is a full time NBC (above) and ABC...CBS has translator stations....still part of the market but too far away form the main stations

I wonder what that will look like come Jan 09 when they flash cut in a month?? Obviously no HD on there ;)
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boba
If no HD channels are planned splitting the bandwidth for 5 channels should be better than 1 analog channel and worse than HDTV. So far I have a religious broadcaster offering 5 sub channels and their analog channel is worse than their 58.1 digital channel. None are HD quality but all are very watchable.
jegrant
FWIW there is a situation almost the same in Fort Wayne, Indiana. One group, branded as "Indiana's News Center" - operates the affiliates for ABC, NBC, My, and CW. ABC & NBC are primary/HD stations (each on their own DTV channel). My is a sub of the NBC, and CW is a sub of ABC. CW is the CW 100+ feed AFAIK. They used to carry NBC WX+ on the 3rd sub of the NBC DTV channel, but have now replaced it with their own in-house "Indiana's News Center NOW" aka INCnow. INCnow is streamed online Indiana's NewsCenter: Fort Wayne WPTA-TV, WISE-TV, CW, and My Network | INCnow .
I noticed that the national news for INCnow is provided by MSNBC. Apparently a version of the "MSNBC NOW" broadcast that sometimes (?) runs at the top and/or half of each hour on MSNBC is available to local stations as the "MSNBC 120" - literally, a two minute national news update (120 seconds).
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If no HD channels are planned splitting the bandwidth for 5 channels should be better than 1 analog channel and worse than HDTV. So far I have a religious broadcaster offering 5 sub channels and their analog channel is worse than their 58.1 digital channel. None are HD quality but all are very watchable.

I don't know if I'd call them watchable, at least not a 65" screen. Looks a lot like SD channels from DISH, back when I had an 811.
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FWIW there is a situation almost the same in Fort Wayne, Indiana. One group, branded as "Indiana's News Center" - operates the affiliates for ABC, NBC, My, and CW. ABC & NBC are primary/HD stations (each on their own DTV channel). My is a sub of the NBC, and CW is a sub of ABC. CW is the CW 100+ feed AFAIK. They used to carry NBC WX+ on the 3rd sub of the NBC DTV channel, but have now replaced it with their own in-house "Indiana's News Center NOW" aka INCnow. INCnow is streamed online Indiana's NewsCenter: Fort Wayne WPTA-TV, WISE-TV, CW, and My Network | INCnow .
I noticed that the national news for INCnow is provided by MSNBC. Apparently a version of the "MSNBC NOW" broadcast that sometimes (?) runs at the top and/or half of each hour on MSNBC is available to local stations as the "MSNBC 120" - literally, a two minute national news update (120 seconds).

jegrant...sorry for not responding sooner

its the SAME thing....here in MN Malara Broadcasting "owns" CBS/CW and Granite owns NBC/My.....the reason I put owns in quotes is Malara bought the station and Granite runs it....your group is the same thing....same owners but I forget who owns what. That's why everything you typed kinda matches mine ;)

info on Malara
On April 23, 2004, Malara Broadcast Group entered into agreements to purchase KDLH and WPTA. This marks Malara's first action as a company. These purchases were completed in early March of 2005.

On March 8, 2005, Malara Broadcast Group entered into a credit agreement with Granite Broadcasting Corporation. This agreement gave Malara Broadcasting $48.5 million and a revolving credit line of $5 million, which it used to purchase KDLH (from former owner New Vision Television) and WPTA, from Granite. In addition to this agreement, Malara also entered into a second agreement with Granite, under which Granite would operate, promote, and sell advertising for the two Malara stations. This is known as a local marketing agreement.

Malara Broadcasting files its financial results to the SEC jointly with Granite, leading many to believe that it is simply a shell corporation for Granite. If this is true, Granite and Malara would be in violation of the FCC's rules on duopolies. Neither Fort Wayne and Duluth have enough full-power stations to legally permit a duopoly. Fort Wayne has six stations while Duluth has five, and FCC regulations require a market to have eight unique station owners once a duopoly is formed--effectively restricting duopolies to markets with at least nine full-power stations.
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well according to their website they have one HD and 4 SD channels

Range 11 is now broadcasting in digital. To receive Range 11 over the air, you must have a digital converter box connected to your analog TV or have a TV with a digital tuner already installed. With the correct set-up, you will be able to see the following:
11.1 NBC HD
11.2 Northland's CW 2
11.3 CBS 3
11.4 Northland's NewsCenter NOW
11.9 My 9

RANGE 11 ANALOG SHUT OFF INFORMATION | Northland's NewsCenter NBC 6, CBS 3, My 9, and Northland CW for Duluth MN / Superior WI | Range 11

too bad I'm too far away from the stations at the cabin in Aitkin
jegrant
Yeah, I have read about how Malara has a very, well, *close* relationship with Granite. Not sure I like it that well, but luckily I live in the Indianapolis DMA, not Fort Wayne. I actually get the best DTV reception from my local HD CW & MY affiliates. Then next best is ABC, and NBC. FOX is spotty, but in HD when I get it. The only channel I've not yet been able to reliably pull in is CBS, which both CBS DTV affiliates are on VHF locally, and everything else is on UHF. I suspect that if/when I put up a rooftop antenna, I should get everything in HD reliably, here on the north end of Kokomo.

Right now, i only use a standard UHF loop, found on a pair of rabbit ears. I did learn one day by accident that moving the "ears" out of the way of the loop, by pulling them both down as far as they go toward a horizontal position, helped reception of marginal stations quite a bit. I also use a piece of aluminum cookware (the disposable kind) as a cheap "reflector" - it's either reflecting desired signals back onto my loop, or keeping undesired signals away from it. Either way, it seems to help, and cost about a buck.
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
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Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM9:00 PM10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSNThunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League PassNonePistons (745) @ HornetsKings (755) @ Mavericks (756)Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)Raptors @ Clippers (766)
Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
Wizards (752) @ Magic
Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts*No Bucks local broadcast*No Raptors local broadcast
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Only the Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, Avalanche, Sharks and Bruins feeds will be using remaps of 24/7 RSNs that night. The rest will be relying on the part time feeds, including the Nuggets, Blackhawks and Kings who will be on their alt/overflow channels, and MSG Western NY will be live on channel 635-1 to carry Buffalo area ads during the Knicks game.

The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
dtv757
I could be wrong but the only RSN we dont have is NBC SN Philadelphia .
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Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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Rest in peace. Wow, so many good roles, but Jean Luc Picard will always be my favorite...
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R.I.P.
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Rest In Peace
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R.I.P., Jean-Luc.
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

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Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.
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Last of the Dogmen is my favorite of hers.
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
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Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
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When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
12 minutes after the patch was release I had it patched. :)
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6:43p Central was dumped off the site, then when I got back on could not reply to post. Down for several minutes.
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6:43p Central was dumped off the site, then when I got back on could not reply to post. Down for several minutes.
Yeah... that was me...

I did another security update and it required me to reboot the server.

I also did a patch for something else and accidently put two ;'s in the config file so when the server rebooted it wouldn't restart a service because of the extra ; in the config file.

And of course as I did it my step dad called me slowing me down in figuring it out.

That was a Scott mistake. Sorry about that.
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OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!

Aww- nevermind.

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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
Foxbat
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It Easy - The Eagles
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Take It as It Comes - Steve Winwood
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Run Joe -- Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five
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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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KAB
Not in a hurry to watch it this time.
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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
meStevo
One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!