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vivithemage
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I want to get a vip 722...I was reading it has an OTA module installed? So would I NEED to pay the extra 5$ a month for local channels from dish?


Also, I currently have a 625 dish and it works great...but I want an upgrade to 722. My 24 month contract came up in November...can I hope in on this promotion from here :

https://www.satellitesales.com/order-dish.php?page=order-dish

Also, is the 722 interface relatively the same? I LOVE the 625..it works great, smooth/easy to use.

I figure id save the 5$ charge by hooking the receiver up to my Ethernet also, as they charge 5$ extra per month because I cannot.

Also, can I get the 722 and not pay for the HD Enable fee, and any HD channels? I want to wait a bit...and at least have OTA HD stuff via the OTA tuner.
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vivithemage
Ahh, so you guys pay the 5$ for locals, just so it shows up in the guide? but you have an HD ant hooked up...makes sense.

Are there any sites out there for 'deals' on existing customers for dish? I just want to grab a 722...cheap....haha.
wetz73
If there are two (or three) things on at once on the locals, I DVR an HD one off the antenna and an SD (or two) off the satellite. Once the locals become available on the satellite, I'll still keep the antenna for those times when I need to record three things at once.
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Uh, right! $3 more bucks and you really do get HD. Dish wants your HD subscription more than the HD Enabling Fee. That's why there is very little difference in price between the HD Enabling Fee and your addition of HD channels. It's called value pricing, and it isn't always bad for the consumer.

The question is, why would anyone pay $7 a month--HD Enabling Fee--to get NOTHING instead of paying $3 more to get several HD channels. "Hmm. $7 a month thrown down the toilet or $10 a month and something to show for it? I think I'll give Dish Network my hard earned $7 a month just to show Dish that I'm a smart consumer and can deny them the extra $3 a month." (I'm not addressing those who aren't looking at 129 or who have other reasons they are paying the HD enabling Fee, just those who fancy themselves smart shoppers who think they know how to deal and get a bargain and save money by giving an Dish an extra $7 a month for pretty much nothing in return).

I would recommend that you stay with your SD boxes because you will be paying a lot of money (even if the 722 purchase is a good deal it will cost you hundreds of dollars. How economical is that? Dish gets your $$ again.) and a lot of extra money each month without adding anything of significant value, unless you are rich and money in no object. In that case, go for it. But if you really fancy yourself some kind of savvy consumer who "saves" money, the route your are choosing is a money loser. Even Suze Orman says stay with the SD you have and don't throw away your money. If the money is burning a hole in your pocket, you are much better off and will minimize your losses by shopping at garage sales. At least you would have a tacky lamp to show for it.
terpsmandan
I am wondering what is the point of a newer 722 unless the OTA tuners will pick up QAM? I have read that that will be part of the FCC tuner regulations soon but is now required now.
vivithemage
I really want the 722 because of the HD...I would be OK paying 10$ a month more for HD...and to get a new box. I can only get the 722 for 150$, which is pretty cheap since it costs 500+??

Maybe I will wait and see if D-TV or Comcast comes out with some nice promo's.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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arlo
A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
dishstaller
That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
TRG
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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b4pjoe
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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HipKat
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
dishstaller
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dishstaller
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Jimbo
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
dishstaller
Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.