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slacker9876
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The way I see it they don't need to add it. Easy for me to say since I hate basketball (TNT) and I get FOX OTA since they are the only station transmitted via high power in my market and they are clear as day.

I have done some thinking about the D* offering, channel additions and people complaining (or not) about PQ and channel additions. In response to some of the previous posts on these topics:

Screw the HD! Until D* puts up the new birds they do not have the room. Their compression scheme is failing as I see it. My picture is terrible and I would rather them use the bandwidth appropriately and expand the allocation for the current lineup than add what they can after it is all over.

Screw more International Channels!

Screw GAC and other SD additions!

Since we know that the broadcast format has/is changing to ATSC, D* should be making receivers that work for both 16:9 ATSC and down-convert 4:3 NTSC. Those of us who have supported the economy and purchased better receiving equipment should be rewarded, not those ho lag behind and stifle the technology. For those that cannot afford it ... they should not even have satellite TV if it is a strain on the budget.

Speaking of budgets, what is this charging for HD content crap anyway? This should be built in to the package prices. Yes I said it, if you're and SD customer you should have to pay for my HD. Let's assume (we all know what that does) that D* currently has 750,000 HD subscribers, which I doubt. They are making 8.2m a month off this package, if it was not free for 6 months. I know they are not even shelling out 1/10th of that to the programming providers they have. Back to what I was saying … a basic package increase of $0.63/mo would provide D* with the revenue to cover this. Now let's bump that $1.09 a month for fun … that would be 14.2m dollars, 6m more than they make now. A satellite costs (guessing) 120m, and could be paid off in 20months! Why should one group pay for what should be made available to all. This programming should be made available to the SD receivers as well as HBO SHO and ESPN are.

This is getting far too long and I am even getting off my own topic. The point is let's get our satellite TV back to where it was 4 years ago … crystal clear images on 13" and 130" TV's … let's do this right, instead of now.

I open the floor …
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LOBO2999
There is only 1 here in Atlanta and here is a link to the O&O Fox stations
http://www.newscorp.com/feg/foxReport2000/televsion3.html
slacker9876
Update after getting cable installed.

Okay, the Comcast installer just left. Much to my surprise I knew more about cable TV than he did. I found this odd since I have not had cable in more than 7 years. Alright, he brought my "digital" cable box. The highest level of connection was RCA, or analog. No S-Video, no SPDIF, I had my receiver setup for both. But the installer is ordering me an S-Video box so this should be remided by mid-week.

Now the guilt sets in, after reviewing the channels very briefly I see noise and static that reminds me of why I switch to D* 7 years ago. The premium channels are what I would say are comparable to satellite, and of course I get none of them on my TV's without STBs but I don't get that with D* either.

I am really unimpressed with Comcast's offering here in Colorado so far. No DVR, no HD, no HD DVR ... heck, no frigging digital nothing!!! So I am liking my D* now and I am getting more satisfied. They still need to work on it but I think they are probably the best around. In fairness to Comcast, perhaps they should consider being an ISO only. I love my cable modem and it has never failed me yet. I think this is their optimum market.

I will post again to this thread when I get a response to my letter from D*, I know I'll get a response, I just don't know when or who from.
Neutron
Insight Communications here has the Motorolla HD/DVR box but I will never get their service as it's comparable to what yours is.
slacker9876
Okay Follow up time! I received a response from D* in the mail last night to my letter listed earlier in this thread. I will try to get the letter scanned in and posted without my personal information later today.

The gist of the letter was:

HMO will not happen:
"Currently, we have no immediate plans to implement the Home Media Option into out units at this time." If you want it you'll have to get it the hard way or on eBay. :mad:

PQ sucks and that is that, but we'll try:
"Our Signal is optimized for a TV screen that is a 4:3 format at 36" or less in size ... Unfortunately this will likely remain an issue until all program provider switch to a 16:9 digital picture (our engineering group is also working on this issue to see what can be done in the interim.)" This backs up what I had posted about seeing this on 42" screen and better :p

They also went on to say the best way to fix this now is to buy an HD receiver that lets me choose picture format (i.e., the HTL-HD or HR10-250) and that I should use S-Video on an SD DirecTiVo.

I was pleased to get a response from the Office of the President and I feel they have fixed some of their issues that will all but go away with Space-Way 1. Reduction in PPV channels crossed my mind as when the artifacts lessened in nature.

Just wanted to up folks on this one. PAPER MAIL STILL WORKS!!!!!!:D

The Letter is now attached. Sorry for the funky proportions, one was scanned gif, the other tif so I needed to migrate.
Barney
Thanks for the update....
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Peter Parker
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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dishstaller
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Oh....you were serious
Almighty1
So after some heavy research, it looks like the issue I mentioned with the DISH 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes where on the 50.0/52.0 remotes, the dedicated TV Power button or on the 54.x remotes where it is using the TV button on the side followed by Power works correctly on a Hopper 3 which runs Linux but not on a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 which are Android TV (ATV) has to do with the Android TV software itself. In all instances, the remotes had always sent out a dual RF and Infrared signal when the TV Power signal is sent from the remote. The Hopper 3 without the Plus would ignore the incoming RF power packet signal which is identified as a TV-specific toggle event, and does not trigger a system-wide standby state. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 as Android TV devices initially worked the same way as well up to sometime in 2025 as there was the legacy pass-through mode in the original software versions used since the Hopper Plus/Joey 4/Wireless Joey 4 launch, the receiver's underlying software essentially ignored the secondary RF payload that the 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes blasted out whenever the TV Power signal was sent. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 recognized it was a TV-specific command and discarded the RF packet, letting the standalone IR signal do its job on the tv.

When the software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 were updated in 2025 and newer versions of the software for those Android TV (ATV) devices, it overhauled how the receiver handles remote commands to tighter integrate the Android TV environment which resulted in the software starting to treat any RF power toggle payload as a global command. As the newer software verion(s) no longer filters out the concurrent RF blast from the 50.0/52.0/54.0 remotes, the moment one sends a TV Power signal from the remote, the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 catches that unintended RF payloadand interpets it as a command to drop the system into standby.

The fix is really simple since the Android TV (ATV) software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 just needs to be programmed to drop or ignore the specific RF power packets associated with the TV Power signal sequence.

The problem could also be at the remotes firmware as the remote's firmware has an engineering defect. When you try to turn off the TV, the remote's internal code mistakenly triggers its RF transmitter alongside its IR transmitter. It should only be firing the IR light blast. Because it forces a simultaneous broadcast, the remote's firmware is the original source of the problem.

The Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey firmware has a filtering defect. Good software design dictating peripheral inputs should include "error handling"—rules that tell the system what to do with messy or unintended commands.
• The legacy Hopper 3 firmware has proper error handling; it sees the remote's rogue RF packet and safely ignores it.
• The Android TV firmware in the Hopper Plu, Joey 4 and Wireless lacks this filtering logic. It blindly accepts the rogue RF packet and misinterprets it as a legitimate signal to force the entire system into standby.

If the remote didn't have a firmware bug, it wouldn't send the phantom RF signal. If the Android TV (ATV) device being the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 didn't have a firmware bug, it would cleanly ignore the signal just like the Hopper 3 does.

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rvvaquero
That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.
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That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.

This is exactly the same issue I was having as I had the Hopper 3 and 54 remote without the Hopper Plus and the symptoms were virtually identical to yours.
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Jimbo

If there was a way to put itself in a loop and keep going forever, would be awesome .... I see eventually he hot it there, the trick is to be able to Hang up and move on with your life, while it still goes forever.
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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It's only available for streaming customers, they still haven't added that batch of CW stations to satellite.

Even if it was, satellite customers still can't stream their CW affiliates via the app, just the Big 4, select PBS stations and some independents (mainly the ones that have full season NHL/NBA rights)
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WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
145​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...
Titanium
Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2
LNBF mount.webp
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To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit :) )
cyberham
I used a 60cm Shaw Satellie dish (60e) with its original dual-LNB. It worked fine for 101W/97W or 99W/103W at that time when weather was fine. But the fade margin was small so rainy weather killed reception or almost so. But it was all free since they're so plentiful so I couldn't complain.
Titanium
A Shaw dish with the linear LNBFs are as rare as hens teeth in the US... :)