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yourbeliefs
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My grandmother has analog Comcast Cable. Although she's been getting raped by their excessive rates and channel plucking, like a battered wife she can't seem to leave the horrible monster and thus we are stuck with dealing with Comcast until AT&T finally decides to roll out U-Verse in her area.

Anyways I recently called Comcast to get confirmation on a service upgrade price quote, only to be told that the rate that I saw only applied to NEW customers (apparently customers who have stuck by the company for years are only eligable for the equivalent of kicks to the face) and that after the "Digital Transition" (which was still in February at time of call) she would HAVE to upgrade to digital cable at their regular rate, which is nothing short of insanely unfair and more inflated than a ballon at the Macy's parade.

Needless to say I'm stuck in a bit of a conundrum. The idea of paying a bunch of rental fees and equipment costs to continue to get television service is not very appealing. My grandmother now has two new HDTVs with digital tuners. I've read online about Digital TVs/ATSC/QAM capabilities, but the consensus I've gotten is that odds are you won't get much with just those and that you'll need a STB anyways for when the channels go digital. Do you NEED a STB to get Digital Cable channels (CableCARD isn't an option) or could she just subscribe to the digital cable package and hook it up to a Digital tuner tv and get the channels that way (or at least a majority of them?)

On a related note, my dad has Comcast as well and has digital cable already. He has 4 televisions and two of them use boxes, while the other two just hook right into the wall. One of them has digital capabilities. Assuming this Comcast branch does the same thing as my grandmother's, will he need an extra box for each extra television, or will he be able to still use the old "wall" method with all the channels over 75 stripped out?

Lastly, with the huge backlash that is sure to come from numerous people over this "required" rate and equipment hike, do you think it's possible that I can probably haggle with Comcast to get a more reasonable rate? My grandmother is an 82+ year old woman who has been using Comcast before they even took over that company (I think it was TCI then AT&T and then Comcast.) To the best of my knowledge they have not sent out any tangible notice of the required upgrade, and I think it's complete BS that you need to be a NEW customer to get anything resembling a decent rate. Has anyone had any luck pushing on Comcast for more reasonable rates in leiu of better satellite offers, customer loyalty, and basic "calling out" of crappy deals that they've had thrown upon them? I don't have much experience with this, as I have been a happy D* customer for a number of years, but sadly Satellite is not an option for her and FiOS and U-Verse haven't shown any interest in expanding to her area.
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V
Yes..

I replyed before reading the last post.. but he is right. comcast stander cable is about the same price as dig starter.. comcast is doing a massive upgrade to their network.. watch and see :) enjoy all your new channels!!!! COMMING SOON! and no price raise :) gotta love em!! Plus they just got docsis 3.0 THANKS FOR THE NEW SPEEEDDS! woop.. and forgot the new upgrades alot more HD then anyone.. FIOS has 103 hd channels.. that awesome.. check out boston all dig area for comcast.. 107!! woops.. so comcast has a cheaper phone.. faster internet and more hd? check the value in that product.. and i love my free macafee for just being a comcast internet customer.. i dont understand how anyone can be upset with them.
jegrant
I can smell the astroturf in the air.
I might point out that if Comcast wouldn't encrypt Digital Starter (which pretty much IS the same thing as the old Basic plus Extended/Preferred cable), then I wouldn't need to rent a box for each TV, which I don't want for a variety of reasons.
If Comcast and other cable providers would comply with the rules on the books, I would have been able to buy my own cable boxes for years now. For that matter, why can't I buy the new DTA adaptors? I'd be happy enough to buy a few of those for $40-50 each (and yes I realize no govt coupon could be used).
Meanwhile, Comcast continues to remove channels from the old Extended cable, while raising the price, and forcing me to rent additional equipment at significant expense just to keep the same programming I had before.
Furthermore, we have an individual with disabilities in our household, and it would be extremely difficult for her to learn to use a cable box. She is also homebound to a great extent and therefore relies on cable as her window to the world.

The only hope I have is that the new FCC will disallow Comcast's use of Privacy Mode for DTAs, and require the "Basic plus Extended" package to be shown in Clear QAM. I don't see why it's so bad for Comcast to continue using traps, at least for now.
cable916
I can smell the astroturf in the air.
I might point out that if Comcast wouldn't encrypt Digital Starter (which pretty much IS the same thing as the old Basic plus Extended/Preferred cable), then I wouldn't need to rent a box for each TV, which I don't want for a variety of reasons.
If Comcast and other cable providers would comply with the rules on the books, I would have been able to buy my own cable boxes for years now. For that matter, why can't I buy the new DTA adaptors? I'd be happy enough to buy a few of those for $40-50 each (and yes I realize no govt coupon could be used).
Meanwhile, Comcast continues to remove channels from the old Extended cable, while raising the price, and forcing me to rent additional equipment at significant expense just to keep the same programming I had before.
Furthermore, we have an individual with disabilities in our household, and it would be extremely difficult for her to learn to use a cable box. She is also homebound to a great extent and therefore relies on cable as her window to the world.

The only hope I have is that the new FCC will disallow Comcast's use of Privacy Mode for DTAs, and require the "Basic plus Extended" package to be shown in Clear QAM. I don't see why it's so bad for Comcast to continue using traps, at least for now.

Okay i am not sure where you get your info. but the box is not for encryption. the box allows a two communication between your box and comcast allowing for instant channel changes ( incase you order ppv or hbo etc) and allows you to run ondemand movies instantly without loading.

Why would anybody want to buy a cable box? So if it breaks down you can buy another. I'd rather "rent" one and call Comcast when it needs replacing.
T
Back when I cared about Comcast, I'd heard that in the East, Comcast was interpreting clear channel requirements as applying only to analog signals, and had started encrypting local HD. People speculated that it was their test case to see if they got away with it. In the NW, they are putting filters on the limited basic customers' lines to block channels 33-70, and the expectation is that within a month of converting expanded analog customers to digital, they will move all unencrypted channels to channels 33-70, so limited basic customers get only what they pay for.

As far as Comcast deals go, in our area, customer reps are utterly unwilling to barter, but if you ask for cancellation services, you get a deal. I tried half a dozen times to get the same deal Comcast gave my neighbor, and when I gave up and called to cancel, they offered me the deal, which was digital starter for $33 for 6 months. I lasted 3 months and cancelled the whole thing. There are a few stations I miss, but they are not worth $720/year.
jegrant
Okay i am not sure where you get your info. but the box is not for encryption. the box allows a two communication between your box and comcast allowing for instant channel changes ( incase you order ppv or hbo etc) and allows you to run ondemand movies instantly without loading.

Why would anybody want to buy a cable box? So if it breaks down you can buy another. I'd rather "rent" one and call Comcast when it needs replacing.
The box is not for encryption?
So it's just my imagination that Comcast encrypts a lot of its digital lineup?
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Foxbat
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
S
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade
No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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osu1991
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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meStevo
I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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K
Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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K
Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.