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Adding 2nd dish to motorized system

Hello all. I just found this forum and it seems like a great resource. I've done a few searchs but can't quite find what I think I need, so here goes.

Background:
I have a motorized 30" with linear lnbf and a coolsat 5000. I also have an old standard issue 18" directv dish with circular lnb that is not wired to anything. I'd like to use the 18" to get NASA TV. I don't want to run any more cable in the house, but I have a 22 kHz switch.

So my questions are:

1) Can I insert the 22kHz switch into the setup, and somehow get the coolsat to switch between the two satellites, even though my main system is motorized? (If the answer is no, then there is no need to continue reading).

2) Would if matter if the 22 KHz tone is on the circular or linear lnbf?

3) Is the correct setup as follows: receiver --> motor ---> switch :::> 2 lnbs?

4) I'm not great with the coolsat, how would I tell it where to go? Could I somehow just program in another satellite that would automatically turn on/off the tone?

Thanks for the help.
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zamar23
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Instead of putting 2 antennas, is it possible to attach a second LNB to the first motorized one, using some kind of bracket? If the first LNB, for example, is Invacom QPH-031, and the second is Unjversal & Circular (of Square or L Type, or another type which is better in this situation), what kind of bracket and setup would be the best for a 30 or 33" antenna?
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zamar23 said:
Instead of putting 2 antennas, is it possible to attach a second LNB to the first motorized one, using some kind of bracket? If the first LNB, for example, is Invacom QPH-031, and the second is Unjversal & Circular (of Square or L Type, or another type which is better in this situation), what kind of bracket and setup would be the best for a 30 or 33" antenna?
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sure you could do that. Right now I have a old DIrecTV dual LNB and a Sadoun dual KU attached together with a hose clamp. I use to have DBS, KU & a Universal on one dish too

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fixed the link

The QPH-031 is both a linear and circular LNB so unless you want to add a Universal for a few Atlantic sats you wouldn't need another LNB
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Iceberg said:
sure you could do that. Right now I have a old DIrecTV dual LNB and a Sadoun dual KU attached together with a hose clamp. I use to have DBS, KU & a Universal on one dish too

pics of both
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Could you explain how you hooked up the DBS, KU & universal lnbs using a motor to the receiver? How close do the LNBs have to be to each other? What about the skews? Do they all have to be at 0°? This has me thinking...........Since I have a Linear dual LNB, Dual DBS and a Universal, I may chose to go that route, instead of buying an Invacom LNB. Would the signal from any of the LNBs suffer because of this setup?
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Anole
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The Standard or Universal should be at the focus point of the dish for best signal.
Anybody who needs both, didn't plan well. :rolleyes:

But, the Circular can be beside the main LNB.
The circular satellites put out a lot of power, and are much further apart in the sky.
Their alignment is far less critical.
But to get 119° on the circular LNB, you'll still need to motor the main LNB over to 125° or 113° or whatever direction puts the circular LNB pretty much on the desired bird.

As for wiring, see the Switches Simplified FAQ.

Bonus: the circular LNB has no skew to be concerned with. :)
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Babadem said:
Could you explain how you hooked up the DBS, KU 7 universal lnbs using a motor to the receiver? How close do the LNBs have to be to each other? What about the skews? Do they all have to be at 0°? This has me thinking...........Since I have a Linear dual LNB, Dual DBS and a Universal, I may chose to go that route, instead of buying an Invacom LNB. Would the signal from any of the LNBs suffer because of this setup?
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easy setup

receiver----motor---diseqc switch---port 1 was KU
--------------------------------------------port 2 circular
--------------------------------------------port 3 Universal

doesnt matter how close they are. I put them next to each other
skew on mototrized is done via the motor so that is set at 0

DBS doesnt suffer because they are strong signals and on most DBS dishes the LNB"s are offset anyways. On a Dish500 the LNB's are 4.5 degrees off centre.

The only drawback is to set up DBS you need to compensate if you use USALS. The DBS LNB needs to have 5 degrees taken off of it. In the above to get say 110 DBS I actually aim the dish at 105.

The UNiversal I added 5-6 degrees. Its all trial and error honestly
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Anole said:
The Standard or Universal should be at the focus point of the dish for best signal.
Anybody who needs both, didn't plan well. :rolleyes:

But, the Circular can be beside the main LNB.
The circular satellites put out a lot of power, and are much further apart in the sky.
Their alignment is far less critical.
But to get 119° on the circular LNB, you'll still need to motor the main LNB over to 125° or 113° or whatever direction puts the circular LNB pretty much on the desired bird.

As for wiring, see the Switches Simplified FAQ.

Bonus: the circular LNB has no skew to be concerned with. :)
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Iceberg said:
easy setup

receiver----motor---diseqc switch---port 1 was KU
--------------------------------------------port 2 circular
--------------------------------------------port 3 Universal

doesnt matter how close they are. I put them next to each other
skew on mototrized is done via the motor so that is set at 0

DBS doesnt suffer because they are strong signals and on most DBS dishes the LNB"s are offset anyways. On a Dish500 the LNB's are 4.5 degrees off centre.

The only drawback is to set up DBS you need to compensate if you use USALS. The DBS LNB needs to have 5 degrees taken off of it. In the above to get say 110 DBS I actually aim the dish at 105.

The UNiversal I added 5-6 degrees. Its all trial and error honestly
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This sound interesting. It will certainly be fun to play around with the setup. I can't wait.:D
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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.
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That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.
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rvvaquero said:
That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.
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This is exactly the same issue I was having as I had the Hopper 3 and 54 remote without the Hopper Plus and the symptoms were virtually identical to yours.
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We have had a corolary problem in this and the prior s/w. Using several different 40.0 remotes (yeah, we're old), when one pauses a live or recorded show it becomes a crap shoot whether it will step foreward the 30" as requested, jump to the end, or restart the episode. Tried the famous 60" reboot to no avail and have decided to live with it vs. a receiver swap risk.
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I think there's a change to the "skip forward 30 seconds". With CBS that does not have auto-skip, if you stack up a bunch of 30 second forwards it seems to stop when the kangaroo signaling the end of the commercial break appears.
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Also posted this in the 3rd party remote thread.

My Hopper 3 updated itself to H713 last week and the IR issue is worse now. On H711, I could be on an SD channel for several hours and the IR side of my H3 would still be responsive without my having to tap the View button on my Pronto Pro every 15 minutes. Now, if I stay even on an SD channel without tapping the View button at least once an hour, it becomes unresponsive to my Pronto Pro without tapping the View button at least 5-20 times, just like on the HD and 4K channels. So, H713 actually made the issue worse. :(

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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Foxbat said:
I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

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55" is plenty big.
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55" is plenty big.
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