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Does STANDARD INSTALLATION Cover Ethernet/ Network Cabling or Wiring?

title says it all...almost. I am just curious to know.

Dish requires phone or ethernet connection for many reasons. Since I dont have phone line, can I ask installer to run ethernet to receiver from router (70 - 100 ft) under (or as a part of) STANDARD INSTALLATION? or
would it be for additional cost? if so, what would be offer appropriate cost of it ?
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So it is up to installer...thats what I thaught. I ll be moving to new location in few months when lease is up.

I was aware of other gimmicks but I have vip box with on demand, xbox 360 as MCE, netflix and xbox live and BluRay with BD Live. They are all hooked up with CAT cable because it is the most reliable, fastest and cheapest option.. But running discreet cable through the attic was pain in neck when I ran it in november. But I dont have guts to go in attic in summer....it gets as hot as 150 up there......how do you (installer) handles attic jobs in summer? second , can u breath up there or u carry oxigen?....curious to know.

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i use to carry the phoneline. i think we charged like 20 bucks to install a phone line with the dish. most of the time you are installing the dish by power for a ground anyway and the phone line is usually there too. so all i did was run an extra line. nothing 2 it. if i still did install i would probably run ethernet lines, but it would be near the 50 dollar range now.
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ccuser said:
title says it all...almost. I am just curious to know.

Dish requires phone or ethernet connection for many reasons. Since I dont have phone line, can I ask installer to run ethernet to receiver from router (70 - 100 ft) under (or as a part of) STANDARD INSTALLATION? or
would it be for additional cost? if so, what would be offer appropriate cost of it ?
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No. Have the tech show you the terms and conditions on the reverse side of the Dish Network Service Agreement form.
Dish does not "require" any type of connection to the outside world except the means to get a satellite signal from your dish to your receivers.
The phone line is "recommended" by Dish for the reciever to be able to comunicate when prompted by Dish to dish. The phone line connex saves ther customer $4.99 per month because Dish drops the additional outlet fee.
We do not install hardwire phone lines or wireless phone jacks for free.
A 100 ft run? I charge time and materials. Not a flat rate. too easy to get burned by flat rate work. Others may give you a flat rate estimate. You'll have to ask. But the bottom line is , you will have to pay.
Appropriate? That is a matter between you and the person doing the work. You make a request. He will quite a price. If you do not like the price he wants, you make a counter offer. If the tech's price is non negotiable, you have two choices. One is you can pay his price. Or you can decline the offer.
The tech has the same two options. Business.
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ccuser said:
So it is up to installer...thats what I thaught. I ll be moving to new location in few months when lease is up.

I was aware of other gimmicks but I have vip box with on demand, xbox 360 as MCE, netflix and xbox live and BluRay with BD Live. They are all hooked up with CAT cable because it is the most reliable, fastest and cheapest option.. But running discreet cable through the attic was pain in neck when I ran it in november. But I dont have guts to go in attic in summer....it gets as hot as 150 up there......how do you (installer) handles attic jobs in summer? second , can u breath up there or u carry oxigen?....curious to know.

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If it's too hot for you, what do you think the answer to your question is? In other words, if you would not go up there yourself, what in Sam Hill makes you think it's ok for someone else to go up there when it's 150 degrees in your attic?
Yes I'd go up ..But 5 mins at a time. And only if it is absolutely necessary.
NO we do not carry oxygen. And that is not the problem. The temperature is the issue.
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ccuser said:
So it is up to installer...thats what I thaught. I ll be moving to new location in few months when lease is up.

I was aware of other gimmicks but I have vip box with on demand, xbox 360 as MCE, netflix and xbox live and BluRay with BD Live. They are all hooked up with CAT cable because it is the most reliable, fastest and cheapest option.. But running discreet cable through the attic was pain in neck when I ran it in november. But I dont have guts to go in attic in summer....it gets as hot as 150 up there......how do you (installer) handles attic jobs in summer? second , can u breath up there or u carry oxigen?....curious to know.

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So wait... do you already have an ethernet cable ran to the tv location for one of your other devices? If so, just put a switch in.

And as far as attics go, in the summer... i don't do attics unless it is absolutely necessary, and it is only a few minutes at a time.
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Jared Twomey said:
So wait... do you already have an ethernet cable ran to the tv location for one of your other devices? If so, just put a switch in.

And as far as attics go, in the summer... i don't do attics unless it is absolutely necessary, and it is only a few minutes at a time.
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Yes, all the devices including VIP 722 are networked at my current residence, however in coming month I will be moving and wanted to check with you guys on what options I ll have for Ethernet wiring along with dish setup.

After FIOS guys performed attic installation in HOT Texas summer, I attempted to run ethernet cable thinking how hard can it be....until I tried and gave up after sweaty attempt. Second attempt was in winter when it was close to freezing, still I came out sweaty & slightly short of breath after 30 mintues...

pardon me if attic concern sounded ignorant...
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SiriusXM announces 25 Holiday Channels for 2026

Some of the channels start next week.

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SiriusXM Delivers the Soundtrack to the Holidays with Its Festive Lineup of 25 Handcrafted Seasonal Music Channels

Lineup features channels produced and presented by celebrated personalities and iconic brands, including Jimmy Fallon, Hallmark,…...
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My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
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It's not even Halloween yet.
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I like the Jimmy Fallon channel. This will be its third year. I like that it's all fresh each year. Also fun when he pops on live from time to time.
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At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain<!-- --> | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain<!-- --> | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Show Don't Tell - Rush
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Show and Tell - Al Wilson
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On with the Show - The Rolling Stones
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The Show Must Go On - Pink Floyd
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If Love Must Go - Dobie Gray
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Susan Saint James, Emmy-Winning Star of 'Kate & Allie' and 'McMillan & Wife,' Dies at 80

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Susan Saint James, Emmy-Winning Star of ‘Kate & Allie’ and ‘McMillan & Wife,’ Dies at 80

Susan Saint James, the Emmy-winning actress who starred in "Kate & Allie," died Monday after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. She was 80.
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Rest in peace.
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Sorry to hear this. R.I.P.
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R.I.P.
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My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP
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House Passes AM Radio For Every Vehicle Act

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House Passes AM Radio For Every Vehicle Act

(Washington, DC) - The U.S. House has passed the AM Radio for Every Vehicle Act, marking a major step forward for broadcasters and listeners who have pushed to keep AM radio available in new cars and
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It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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dishdude said:
Very rarely listen to FM any more
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
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Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
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No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
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Haven't listened AM or FM in years
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If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
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You knew the answer before you asked it.

I can't recall having encountered a local ad on Sirius, and I don't imagine it is any different on XM.
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DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/21/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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For those dazn nba channels are they sat only or sat & streaming
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Both, and they just made it official with a multiyear deal that also includes TV Everywhere authentication for the DAZN app, and commercial distribution.

DIRECTV, the premier provider of digital television entertainment in the United States, and DAZN, the world's leading sports entertainment platform, today announced a new multi-year distribution agreement for local telecasts of Cleveland Cavaliers, Indiana Pacers, Memphis Grizzlies, Minnesota Timberwolves, and San Antonio Spurs games for DIRECTV streaming, satellite, and U-verse customers in each team's respective NBA-designated home territories.

These DAZN telecasts will be available to DIRECTV customers who subscribe to the Choice or higher packages and to U-verse TV customers who subscribe to the U200 or higher package. Each of DAZN's team services provides live pregame, postgame, and in-game coverage for the respective team.

In the coming weeks, customers who receive access to these teams via DIRECTV will also be able to login to the DAZN platform at no additional cost using their DIRECTV login credentials.

This agreement also provides distribution rights to each of the five NBA teams to all of DIRECTV FOR BUSINESS' thousands of sports bars, restaurants, fitness clubs, and other commercial venues located within each team's respective region.
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 28 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 28 2026 vs Oct 21 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 0 TID 28 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D16@101, TPN 29
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
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1449​
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SD mpeg4​
144​
-1​
194​
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SD mpeg2​
434​
1​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
A few remaps
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
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Amazon Echo Show 16: Now this is it!

Time for another AWESOME video from BoredAtWork!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wVSqE_URJIo


Direct YouTube Link - Amazon Echo Show 16: Now this is it!
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Can You ACTUALLY Use the Mazda CX-90 PHEV As an Electric Commuter? | Baseline Challenge

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-HYgO5Lpa8


Direct YouTube Link - Can You ACTUALLY Use the Mazda CX-90 PHEV As an Electric Commuter? | Baseline Challenge
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Apple's All-New iPad mini

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtLJGwEtyT0


Direct YouTube Link - Apple's All-New iPad mini
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All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Jimbo said:
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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can't forget the little blue m&m's
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slow_poke_pete said:
can't forget the little blue m&m's
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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charlesrshell said:
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
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My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
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telstar_1 said:
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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ment to 20 yrs dam phone
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Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
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BradleyD said:
Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
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They have sling tv wich sucks ass it needs a major upgrade
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