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Last reply Feb 12, 2009 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

2 yr contract only on my side, not Dish?

2 months ago I upgraded to a new dvr hd and they said I had to take a two year contract. I just got my february bill with all price increases. How can they raise my prices when I have a 2 year contract? So they can raise my prices where I can't afford it and I'm stuck because if I cancel I have to pay for the upgrade. I'm stuck with them for 2 years and they can just raise my prices whenever they want? An they told me when I asked for the upgrade that my bill would actually be going down. It never did.

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Annie2005

Feb 10, 2009

read WHAT contract? I upgraded on the phone, all they said was I was committed to another 2 years. I didn't have anything to read and nothing to sign. Guy came and installed the new DVR and didn't give me anything to sign either. AND they are charging me 12.00 per month to lease the new machine. I'm sure if I bought one they would call it some other fee. They also didn't need to send out an installer, I've hooked them up before without any problem, they could have just mailed it. This wasn't a new install, just one upgraded box. Did anyone elses fees go up in February? They probably only raised my prices BECAUSE I had a new contract and they new I was stuck.

navychop

Feb 11, 2009

They haven't exactly kept the price increase a secret. And you'd have to be blind not to have seen the discussions about it on this forum. And the fact they raise prices EVERY February.

And you signed a contract when you first started service.

My wireless phone contract certainly does not lock in prices- not for the business, not for the personal phones.

its4us2think

Feb 12, 2009

navychop said:
They haven't exactly kept the price increase a secret. And you'd have to be blind not to have seen the discussions about it on this forum. And the fact they raise prices EVERY February.

And you signed a contract when you first started service.

My wireless phone contract certainly does not lock in prices- not for the business, not for the personal phones.

Heh! not many people come and read these forums. You must be clueless to think that every potential dish customer comes and reads the forums before they sign. Even those who know about these forums dont read these forums.

It is just tiring to see the fanboy responses here. All I am saying is that if the price increase was 'discussed' in forums, why not dish just tell people who are signing in the month of dec and jan that price may go up in Feb. Is that too much to ask?

Personally I dont care for the price increase and I am with dish for many years and I know how they operate, I am talking about people coming in. Dont talk as if all the dish subscribers are the forum users and vice versa!

chainblu

Feb 12, 2009

A 24 month price freeze WOULD be a cool promotion. The problem with that is once the customer was out of contract and their rates "snapped back" to the current pricing, I think a lot would suffer sticker shock and bail. The idea is to keep customers beyond the first 2 years.

Totoro

Feb 12, 2009

chainblu said:
A 24 month price freeze WOULD be a cool promotion. The problem with that is once the customer was out of contract and their rates "snapped back" to the current pricing, I think a lot would suffer sticker shock and bail. The idea is to keep customers beyond the first 2 years.

In mobile phones, if the carrier increases the price, the consumer has the legal right to end the contract. I am not sure why satellite carriers are not bound by this.

AdamGott

Feb 12, 2009

Annie2005 said:
read WHAT contract? I upgraded on the phone, all they said was I was committed to another 2 years. I didn't have anything to read and nothing to sign. Guy came and installed the new DVR and didn't give me anything to sign either. AND they are charging me 12.00 per month to lease the new machine. I'm sure if I bought one they would call it some other fee. They also didn't need to send out an installer, I've hooked them up before without any problem, they could have just mailed it. This wasn't a new install, just one upgraded box. Did anyone elses fees go up in February? They probably only raised my prices BECAUSE I had a new contract and they new I was stuck.

This seems to be a practice that is becoming more common as all of these 'service' companies try to lock us into longer and longer contracts. I had the same experience with Sprint a couple of years ago. My wife added a second phone to her service over the phone and she swears that they said nothing about extending her contract when she added the phone. They used this transaction to automatically extend our contract basically without our knowledge.

I can't say whether they told her this or not and my guess is that they probably did but this extending contracts by phone nonsense needs to stop.

navychop

Feb 12, 2009

its4us2think said:
Heh! not many people come and read these forums. You must be clueless to think that every potential dish customer comes and reads the forums before they sign. Even those who know about these forums dont read these forums.

It is just tiring to see the fanboy responses here. All I am saying is that if the price increase was 'discussed' in forums, why not dish just tell people who are signing in the month of dec and jan that price may go up in Feb. Is that too much to ask?

Personally I dont care for the price increase and I am with dish for many years and I know how they operate, I am talking about people coming in. Dont talk as if all the dish subscribers are the forum users and vice versa!

The point is, I was talking to someone who WAS and IS here, reading the forums. Not everyone.

FWIW, I think they should have warned people too. I also think I should win the lottery.

navychop

Feb 12, 2009

Totoro said:
In mobile phones, if the carrier increases the price, the consumer has the legal right to end the contract. I am not sure why satellite carriers are not bound by this.

I don't think that is universal.

Slamminc11

Feb 12, 2009

Totoro said:
In mobile phones, if the carrier increases the price, the consumer has the legal right to end the contract. I am not sure why satellite carriers are not bound by this.

Well, you could always hook your satellite dish to your cell phone and once your start receiving service on the phone, then maybe they would be bound by the same rules...

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If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

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WhiteBeard

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EarDemon said:
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

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EarDemon

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WhiteBeard said:
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.

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EarDemon said:
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.

What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.

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EarDemon

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harshness said:
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?

Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

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EarDemon

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I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

harshness

Oct 16, 2026

EarDemon said:
Because it's what I prefer.

I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.

HipKat

Oct 16, 2026

EarDemon said:
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

I used to pin the C: drive to the Win Taskbar and it would open in cascading style

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