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Dwight_B

Last reply Mar 5, 2009 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

DirecTV does not support multi room DVR functionality DISH does

I was a DISH network customer for a long time. Recently I switched because I was not happy with the DISH network customer support.

One of the key criteria for my business was that DirecTV must be able to do what DISH network does, specifically provide DVR functionality (pause, rewind etc) on each set. DISH does this effortlessly.

With my DISH setup I had a single DVR in my family room and a simple STB in the other rooms. With this setup I had full DVR functionality AND access to DVR recordings on each set.

I was told by the DirecTV sales guys that DirecTV could do this with no extra cost and I believed them since DISH network could do it.

DirecTV CANNOT do it and this really makes me mad and now I am stuck on this SHITE network or get slammed with $400 if I go off the service.

I have asked them to provide me with this functionality and they say it will cost me an extra $300 including gear and install. They cut down the cost to $150 but it is still not good enough

Because of this I want to make DirecTV's life miserable but I can't because I am not big enough nor can type fast enough

Also the channel acquisition time with DISH is MUCH better than DirecTV.

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Chewie

Mar 5, 2009

Sorry to interrupt all this posturing and sabre rattling, but can I try to summarize here for the layman:

- MRV is coming from DirecTV, but probably not till the 2nd half of the year.
- An HDDVR is required as a server, and a non-DVR box as the client.
- Two DVRs cannot talk to each other.
- An SD box may not be able to view content from an HD DVR? Yes? No?

Does this just about sum it up?

rad

Mar 5, 2009

Chewie said:
Sorry to interrupt all this posturing and sabre rattling, but can I try to summarize here for the layman:

- MRV is coming from DirecTV, but probably not till the 2nd half of the year.
- An HDDVR is required as a server, and a non-DVR box as the client.
- Two DVRs cannot talk to each other.
- An SD box may not be able to view content from an HD DVR? Yes? No?

Does this just about sum it up?

- I hope it doesn't take until the 2nd half based on what's going on in the CE world now.

- Nothing has been said either way if a HD DVR could/couldn't also be a client.

- See above

- Probably not since the roadmap that D*'s had in a few financial calls has them down to just a HD box in the future (IIRC 2010/2011 was on the slide).

Chewie

Mar 5, 2009

rad said:
- I hope it doesn't take until the 2nd half based on what's going on in the CE world now.

- Nothing has been said either way if a HD DVR could/couldn't also be a client.

- See above

- Probably not since the roadmap that D*'s had in a few financial calls has them down to just a HD box in the future (IIRC 2010/2011 was on the slide).

Thanks for the response.

- In my experience EVERYTHING takes longer than it should. Fact of life I guess.

- Nothing seems to have been said at all, which is annoying. I wish they would at least announce the service, and give a tentative launch date.

- See above

- I think they drastically over-estimate the adoption rate of HDTV. Sure, a lot of American's may have HD in their house, but I seriously doubt it's more than half. The real issue is the 2nd TV. The one in the bedroom, the kids room or the play room. That almost certainly isn't HD, and probably won't be for a long time. I hope they're not being short-sighted.

rad

Mar 5, 2009

Chewie said:
- I think they drastically over-estimate the adoption rate of HDTV. Sure, a lot of American's may have HD in their house, but I seriously doubt it's more than half. The real issue is the 2nd TV. The one in the bedroom, the kids room or the play room. That almost certainly isn't HD, and probably won't be for a long time. I hope they're not being short-sighted.

Don't know if that's true or not for DirecTV. IIRC from a recent financial call they mentioned that the adoption of advanced services (DVR or HD) was getting close to 50%, so if even 1/2 of that was only HD that's still 4M to 5M customers.

I've had a HD set in the bedroom for 3 years now and even the guest bedrooms now have HD sets (total of 6 HD sets in the house from 19" to 73"). OK, I'm nowhere close to the average consumer but with prices coming down to the couple hundred dollars I think more and more folks will be going for upgrading those other sets once that have that 1st HD set.

NotMe546

Mar 5, 2009

rad said:
Don't know if that's true or not for DirecTV. IIRC from a recent financial call they mentioned that the adoption of advanced services (DVR or HD) was getting close to 50%, so if even 1/2 of that was only HD that's still 4M to 5M customers.

I've had a HD set in the bedroom for 3 years now and even the guest bedrooms now have HD sets (total of 6 HD sets in the house from 19" to 73"). OK, I'm nowhere close to the average consumer but with prices coming down to the couple hundred dollars I think more and more folks will be going for upgrading those other sets once that have that 1st HD set.

"the latest data from ABI Research is quite disheartening. Reportedly, some 41-percent of American TV owners possess an HDTV, but out of those, just 56-percent subscribe to a HD programming package."

"Nielsen reports: 23% of US households have an HDTV"

"Just two years ago, some 40% of HDTV-owning US households had not bothered to subscribe to any form of high-def programming. Today, In-Stat is reporting that said figure has stooped to 18%. Sure, the drop is fairly dramatic, but that still proves that nearly 1 in 5 HDTV-equipped homes probably aren't even enjoying HDTV content. The top two reasons consumers gave for not buying were that they simply "weren't interested" or that HD channels were "too expensive."

NotMe546

Mar 5, 2009

Jan 26th 2009"Significant gap" found between US HDTV ownership and HD programming usage

The most recent report points out that the "number of US HDTV households, defined as households having both an installed HD-capable TV set and also receiving and watching HD programming, increased by almost 40% in 2008." That said, the growth rate could have been much, much larger. In America, there are over 39 million homes with an installed HDTV, yet just 22 million of those are tuning into HD programming.

So most people don't get it, HD TV or programing.

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"MysteryMan"

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EarDemon

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If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

WhiteBeard

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EarDemon said:
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

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EarDemon

Oct 14, 2026

WhiteBeard said:
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.

harshness

Oct 15, 2026

EarDemon said:
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.

What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.

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EarDemon

Oct 15, 2026

harshness said:
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?

Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.

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EarDemon

Oct 15, 2026

I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

harshness

Oct 16, 2026

EarDemon said:
Because it's what I prefer.

I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.

HipKat

Oct 16, 2026

EarDemon said:
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

I used to pin the C: drive to the Win Taskbar and it would open in cascading style

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