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What is the MAX length of cable you can use for a V3000? I want to place the V3000 in a box mounted on the pole about 75-100' away from the reciever. Will I have any issues? I don't "think" there will be any problems but I want to be sure.
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C
Yes, I will upon installation. The box is a NEMA enclosure. Its sealed.
I am using a good RG6U cable.
Anole
concerns:

The box is a NEMA enclosure. Its sealed.
There shouldn't be any problem.
The diseqc signals should travel down the coax to the box unhindered, much like remote-mounting any small H-H motor.
The shorter wiring between the Gbox 3000 and the motor should be a benefit.

I haven't fired up my Gbox yet, so I don't know how much heat it produces in operation (or idle).
The fact that your NEMA box is sealed is a little worrisome.
If not for any heat generated, then for heating by the sun on a bright day.

I'd try locating a temperature sensor inside the box and monitoring during summer days, to assure yourself all is well.
Make sure the box is a light color, and locate it in the shade.
C
There shouldn't be any problem.
The diseqc signals should travel down the coax to the box unhindered, much like remote-mounting any small H-H motor.
The shorter wiring between the Gbox 3000 and the motor should be a benefit.

I haven't fired up my Gbox yet, so I don't know how much heat it produces in operation (or idle).
The fact that your NEMA box is sealed is a little worrisome.
If not for any heat generated, then for heating by the sun on a bright day.

I'd try locating a temperature sensor inside the box and monitoring during summer days, to assure yourself all is well.
Make sure the box is a light color, and locate it in the shade
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I had thought of the heat problem. The NEMA box is light grey in color. "If" I have a het problem I might be able to snag a supercool heat exchanger from work. We used them in these same NEMA boxes with electronic components inside and they will keep the box within a set range of temperature.

Whats the advantage to having the GBox outside?

I keep mine inside the house where its safe and I can monitor it. There is 130 feet of sprinkler wire from the GBox to my Dish motor and it does fine.

Brett

Well....one is shorter run of cable as Anole mentioned. I hadn't thought of that. That alone should make it easier on the motor control side of the V3000 because of less cable run. I just want a clean install. I'm using it as a DiSEqC 1.2 positioner not as a standalone positioner. Once the BUD is pointed and tuned there should be no need to even look at the V3000 since everything can be done remotely via the reciever.

I should pick out a box today at work. I'll post pics if I get a chance. I did look at the bottom of the G-Box. There is no way of "mounting" it. It will have to be set on a shelf.
migold
If you are worried about heat from the sun, I have used an 'umbrella' to eliminate the problem with large heat generating electrical equipment located in Louisanna. Mount a suitable cover some inches above the NEMA enclosure so that it is always in the shade. The sun hits the cover, not the NEMA enclosure and the cover is heated by the sun on top and cools by the air below. Your NEMA enclosure remains at approximately air temperature, regardless of sun effects. Good luck.
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Hello C-band,

If you will be not satisfied with any suggestion then i personally advice you to take help from google with the use of "MAX cable length for a V3000" keyword. I am sure you will got appropriate results from them.
Anole
on second thought:

If it's 100 feet from the receiver to the Vbox, and the box is right at the dish...
...then I see no great advantage to going to all the trouble.
The motors use 36 volts so that voltage drop on a long cable is not a problem.
Most will run fine on 24 volts out of 4DTV receivers, too.
So, now we have the following unnecessary complications:
- NEMA box
- cooling box
- shelf in box
- 110 vac at the box
- no ability to command the Vbox with the remote

The "clean install" is in the house.
You'll thank yourself for an in-house install first time you have to troubleshoot a problem or tweak the system.
I'm one for over-complicating things, but there is just no good argument for this level of difficulty.
M
I had thought of the heat problem. The NEMA box is light grey in color. "If" I have a het problem I might be able to snag a supercool heat exchanger from work. We used them in these same NEMA boxes with electronic components inside and they will keep the box within a set range of temperature.



Well....one is shorter run of cable as Anole mentioned. I hadn't thought of that. That alone should make it easier on the motor control side of the V3000 because of less cable run. I just want a clean install. I'm using it as a DiSEqC 1.2 positioner not as a standalone positioner. Once the BUD is pointed and tuned there should be no need to even look at the V3000 since everything can be done remotely via the reciever.

I should pick out a box today at work. I'll post pics if I get a chance. I did look at the bottom of the G-Box. There is no way of "mounting" it. It will have to be set on a shelf.
Now if you believe that, I have some prime Florida real estate for you............lol
DiSEqC is not totally stable, and difficult to troubleshoot. Keeping it inside is a good idea, and the remote for it handy as well.
I have the Motek, the 'economy' V-box, and I have never got it to work as DiSEqC 1.2 (goto any setpoint) as it claims, even though the CS 6000 has that motor option available. It does 1.0 fine but that is only 4 posititions and not very versitile in setup. I could never get this combo to work like I originally intended for it to. Maybe the 'G' will work in 1.2 with your rx.
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This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

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harshness
They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole.
The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

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I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans
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I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans
I'm pretty sure the most you can get is seven.

What America can't afford is the payments on $80,000+ pickups and SUVs and $40,000+ crossovers.
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Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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R.I.P.
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Rest In Peace
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R.I.P., Jean-Luc.
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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

Keri Russell Wow GIF by NETFLIX
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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
meStevo
One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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