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I have a leased 722 with software version 618 that started doing constant reboots. A call to tech support on the first day of the problem resulted in the csr telling me I need a replacement and it will arrive today. The point of posting the issue is to see if anyone has any advice on how I can get this thing running long enough to write down my timers. I do use dish's sling guide, so suggestions from that angle are welcome as well!! Here's what's happening...

It started while I was watching the news Monday morning. No changes in setup or settings recently. This is the sequence I am referring to when I say "reboot": Fan noise gets really loud and TV goes blank from lack of signal, all lights on receiver go off and fan goes silent for 15 seconds or so. Loud fan noise returns and the mode light and TV1 and TV2 lights come on. The next symptoms have changed over the past few days so I will explain what was happening and what is now happening (each will pick up where I left off here - the three lights lighting up)...

On Monday it would reboot and the 3 lights would stay on and it would come up with the acquiring signal screen. It would eventually go through the 5 steps and I could use the receiver as normal (live or DVR'ed). It would stay working for no more than 3 minutes and then would reboot and repeat the whole process. I tried disconnecting all cables and cords and found it would boot for longer (not consistent) times. I focused my attention on transferring some of my recorded stuff to my external. Initially I couldn't use the external, but found that after leaving it on the acquiring signal screen for 5 minutes or so, I could connect the sat 1 coax briefly and it would let me start accessing the external (didn't think I had the feature activated until I did that, I guess). I could also leave the HDMI connected. I was only able to transfer a couple of programs and the symptoms got worse...

Tuesday the sequence was the same, but it started rebooting much more frequently. It would bring up the searching for signal screen, but would only stay on it for a minute or so and go through the reboot process again.

By Tuesday night it got worse. Now instead of the three lights staying on, they flash once and then just the green TV1 light comes back on. It stays on until it reboots. Rebooting is happening so fast now that the signal acquisition screen doesn't even come on.

While having all cords disconnected helped get me to the acquiring a signal screen the first day or so, that doesn't even work anymore. During that time, however, I did notice that if it was sitting on the signal acquisition screen, the instant I would try to connect either sat 1 or sat 2 coax to the coax terminal on the receiver, it would instantly start a reboot. That became pretty consistent. It should be noted, though, that NOT connecting the coax would end up in a reboot also, just not as quickly. I tried disconnecting (and even removing) the grounding block for the coax and this had no affect.

I have also tried unplugging the power cord for varying lengths of time (including overnight) with no change in symptoms. When the problem started, the recevier was plugged in to a surge protector. I have since been plugging it directly into a wall outlet to rule out the protector. This has not helped either.

I couldn't care less about the physical receiver. It's leased and being replaced. I am upset about losing so much recorded content and timers, though. If anyone has any suggestions to get it resurrected long enough for me to even just take a couple of pics of my timer list, that would be wonderful! (This is the third 722 I have had die (completely unrelated issues with previous ones) so I am upgrading to a 722k this time so I can save my timers and settings in the remote and won't have to worry about this if it happens again!)

I am a little concerned that there may be an issue with the dish / cabling that could be causing this I wouldn't want it to hurt my new receiver. Should I be concerned? My house is less than 6 years old and the cabling was run by E* subs right after it was built. I can't remember which 2 dishes I have installed. One is almost 6 years old, oval, and is pointed at 110/119. The other is smaller and is only a couple of years old. It was added to pick up my locals on 61.5. They both feed into one switch, but I am not sure the model. Two lines of coax (one for sat 1 and one for sat 2) go from the switch to the receiver. If model numbers of dishes and switch would help, I can provide them tonight.

Thanks so much in advance. SatGuys members are the best!
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What makes you think its the HDD usually its the power supply.

Try unplgging the receiver over night or longer and it may work for a short while.
Hotinco
try putting it in the freezer over night (if you can get HD out with out breaking the tamper seal put just the HD in the freezer) I have used this trick on Laptop and PC drives for years and it works about 70% of the time.
whatchel1
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What makes you think its the HDD usually its the power supply.

Try unplgging the receiver over night or longer and it may work for a short while.

He had said he had unplugged the unit and that didn't help.
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I just replaced a 722 for the same reason, constant rebooting. The problem is they are overheating and going out faster than normal. The unit need to be very open and not in a closed entertainment center. it also help to get a small fan for it. I would suggest you get an EHD for it so you can transfer your recording to it every so often and watch them from it. I do that now. that way if the unit goes out again you won't loose everything
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try putting it in the freezer over night (if you can get HD out with out breaking the tamper seal put just the HD in the freezer) I have used this trick on Laptop and PC drives for years and it works about 70% of the time.

My 2nd 722 in 12 months died from the same problem last week. I was told the 1st died from overheating because it was installed on top of my AV receiver so I put the 2nd 722 in an open area on it's side to aid in cooling…..this is the one that died last week. Anyway most of my recordings were backed up on the external HD but I still have a few on the 722 I would like to transfer to the Ext. HD. I had plugged and unplugged the old 722 several times including one period of 3 days.

I installed and activated the new replacement 722 yesterday…..using the above freezer method…..if the old 722 does power up will there be any issues transferring the recordings since I have activated the replacement unit?

Finally, is it possible to put temporarily put the old 722 HD in the new 722 to see if will boot and transfer the recordings?
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"Finally, is it possible to put temporarily put the old 722 HD in the new 722 to see if will boot and transfer the recordings?"

yes
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What makes you think its the HDD usually its the power supply.

Try unplgging the receiver over night or longer and it may work for a short while.

Mine must have been the power supply!!!

I put both units (old & replacement unit) on their side and pluged the HDD from the old unit into the mother board on the new unit and was able to transfer all the movies to the Ext HDD. This way I did not have remove the HDD and mess with the tamper seal.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Lonely is the Night - Billy Squier
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Lonely People - America
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PEOPLE Are Strange-The Doors
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You're Still A Young Man - Tower Of Power
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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MikeD-C05
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.
Scott Greczkowski
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH
I have the same wish.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
charlesrshell
can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
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I have the same wish.
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
NYDutch
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
DISH will happily sell them a Starlink system and service.
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.
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But how is it reusable if it's disposable
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
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dishstaller
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RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5Arbm47IQ
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This video was put up shortly after I was able to take my family out to Yosemite in 2011. No AI.


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dishstaller
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Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.

I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awe7kY5nvdU
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harshness
When you need a battery, you need a battery.

If you can wait, new technologies are on the not-too-distant horizon.

You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
dishstaller
You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
Jimbo
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.

My last AGM (using now) I got from O Rielly's, its the Super Start ... I got the Platnium, they had several to choose from.
T
He sounds like he's trying to sell me a pocket hose.

I just had to replace a car battery this week and thought I'd look into LiFePo4. Amazon has plenty of them, but all have top posts and only one 'also' has side connections (Group 75).Then I read that they're really lousy in the cold. So, an AGM, but again, almost nothing with side terminals instead of top. In researching that, I read that most mfrs in recent years have dropped side terminals and gone back to the old top posts, which is surprising to me since those are more corrosion-prone, cause the battery to need more space and are generally more hazardous. Finally I just threw up my hands and bought a regular lead-acid at Sam's Club. They had a Group 75 "Duracell" with side terminals only. It was virtually the only such battery with side posts on their shelves
arlo
Had a Die Hard in my folks cellar for over 6 years. Pulled it out, slapped it on a charger for a day. Put it in my 'Cuda and drove it around for a week of my vacation. Next year, the same. But my dad kept it topped off for me.It was a mid 80's battery in early 1990.

Flooded acid batteries like a float voltage of around 13.5-13.8 voltage.
AGM needs a float of 14.2 volts. So if you slap an AGM in where a flooded was. It never gets a full charge.
"Why do they die so fast?" Question answered. There are folks who sell voltage regulators for alternators that are designed to boost float voltage for AGM batteries.
The other way around? Flooded will gas-off a little at 14.2 volts. But seems to tolerate it pretty good.

Lithium car/bike/atv batteries. After 3 batteries in my Harley. The OEM flooded and two AGM's (before the 14.2 volt float requirement to let them live was learned). I bought a lithium for it. 4 year, no gripe warranty after having it tested by an approved store.
The thing started like Thor himself sent a bolt from the sky. Except......try to start it around freezing? Nope. Needed a heating pad.
And I usually like to park it around events in the evening with the parking light on. Looks cool like that.
We could traipse around for a few hours no worries. Hop on, fire it up, and go putt around.
Lithium? A Dakota Lithium at least. The BMS shuts it right down if it discharges below <something>.
Come back. Parking lights off. Won't start. And you know the rest. But it lasted 6 years. A lot better than 'new every two'. And the fact that powersports batteries are warranted for six, maybe nine months. Ludicrous.

I called Noco. Asked all of the right questions. Great warranty. Save some bucks ordering directly, faster service that the wally world alternative.
They addressed (or claimed over the phone) that the shut down was addressed. Sure. The BMS keeps it form being damaged. But if it is shut down because it does become low. Shut down any load (key on, parking or headlights left on) for 10-15 minutes and you get a second try to start your rig. Not a bad thing if it really works. Right?!

Exide, Interstate? Be very afraid. They ain't what they used to be. In Florida my '70 Cutlass had an Interstate (early 90') that lasted 6 years until it dropped its plates at an intersection and boiled over. In Florida, mind you. The last Interstate.....done in 2. Guys down there would suck out the acid and put water in shortly before the warranty ran out. Make it to the auto parts, get them tested. And get a new one pro rated. No more pro rating.
You can't beat an Odyssey. Napa, AC Deco (the better ones). Yup.
The mom and pop Car Quest only sells Die Hard. For a reason, the old man says. So they convinced that a Die HArd Platinum was the hot ticket for me. l will see. Stand by!

You can't cut Mr. Project Farm down. He does great tests of all sorts of things. Not sponsored and pressured to slap a little sugar on his comparisons and reviews. Compared to the Brits and Aussies with their constant overzealous and same sounding (Dave from EEVblog) rant. I like P-Farm a lot. Of course I like AvE (Boltr) too.
Reminds me to beware when wearing shorts around the garage vice.


Opinions may vary.
harshness
And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.
The days of the 84-month warranty appear long gone, regardless of brand or where you acquired it. Warranties tend to be shorter, with much greater dependence on quick prorating.

The big problem for lead-acid batteries (whether flooded or AGM) is that the US no longer produces lead (the last smelter closed in 2013) and must import it.

Recycling covers a good chunk of the need (~70%), but it isn't free.
EarDemon
I've always got regular OEM Ford Motorcraft batteries from the dealership and have never really had an issue. On my old Lincoln Aviator (the SUV from the early 00s, not the CUV of today), I had some phantom drain and went though a few batteries, but that was an anomaly and with the standard warranty I got free replacements. Taking the Aviator out of the picture, I've bought two batteries in my 24 years of driving. One battery replacement in my Mountaineer, one in my Navigator. But I probably would have had another one had I kept it around longer. Didn't have the Bronco long enough, and so far still on the factory battery for my Expedition.

I run more than the average bear. Dash cam, two radar detectors (yes, I'm aware that can be problematic when using simultaneously), laser jammers and a police scanner. I'm in Buffalo, 90 degree summers and 0 degree winters. Once in a while in the dead of winter I'll get an alert from the Ford app saying remote features have been disabled to conserve battery, but it starts right up.
dishstaller
I run more than the average bear. Dash cam, two radar detectors (yes, I'm aware that can be problematic when using simultaneously), laser jammers and a police scanner.
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Ramy
Supporting Founder
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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College Football Playoff bracket, schedule, scores, rankings ...

The 2025–26 College Football Playoff concluded with the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national championship by defeating the Miami Hurricanes 27–21. [1, 2, 3]

Playoff Results Summary
The 12-team playoff bracket featured the following key results across each round: [1]
    • First Round: Alabama defeated Oklahoma (34–24), Miami (Fla.) beat Texas A&M (10–3), Ole Miss topped Tulane (41–10), and Oregon defeated James Madison (51–34) at higher-seeded campus sites.
    • Quarterfinals: Miami (Fla.) upset Ohio State (24–14), Oregon shut out Texas Tech (23–0), top-ranked Indiana rolled past Alabama (38–3), and Ole Miss edged Georgia (39–34) across the New Year's Six bowls.
    • Semifinals: Miami (Fla.) advanced past Ole Miss (31–27) in the Peach Bowl, while Indiana dominant-defeated Oregon (56–22) in the Fiesta Bowl.
    • National Championship: Indiana secured the title with a 27–21 victory over Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Unfortunately, there was not rankings listed in this summary
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AZ.
And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
Jimbo
And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
I think they are actually discussing the Top 8 get a Bye this time, if they go to 24.
Then again, I heard something about Play in games for the 16-24 teams ...

Nothing is official yet, so lots of moving parts ...

Can't wait, lets do 24, 3 years later they will want 32 :sick
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And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.
Jimbo
While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.
Once the 24 gets here, there won't be anymore Conference Championships .... or so they say.

Oh what the hell, we really don't need Conferences anymore either ...:coco:(
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Bobby
Rest in peace. Together again with Spock, Doc, Uhura, and Scotty...
long_time_Dish
Rest in peace, Checkov, and Bester too...
FTA4PA
Rest In Peace 😢
Foxbat
Rest in Peace…