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Scott Greczkowski
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Greeting everyone from the Mile High City, Denver, Colorado which is the home of Dish Networks Team Summit 2009!

This morning opened up with the Dish Network General Assembly.

The assembly opened up with an AMAZING 3 screen video presentation and some of the most AMAZING BASS I have ever heard, it shook the entire room.

First out on stage was Dish Network CEO Charlie Ergen, Charlie talked for a few moments then told us he was goiing to do things differently this year, instead of giving a powerpoint presentation he had a special guest.

Out came the host of MSNBC's Morning Joe Show - Joe Scarborough who sat down and interviewed Charlie.

We got to hear how Charlie got his start in the satellite business. His story is one of true American push to make it. I would love to sit down with Charlie and get him telling his story on video.

Joe asked Charlie what he thought about the economy and Charlie said that because of the economy more people are staying home to watch TV. Charlie said he believes this recession will last for about 2 more years.

Charlie stated his goal is to marry satellite television with the internet and online movies services.

Charlie admitted that Dish fell behind with the HD roll out but that was about to change. He said that HD will drive the company this year.

Charlie believes that the battle of merging the TV and computers together will end with the TV winning. He feels people would rather watch video on their TV then on a smaller cmputer screen. He feels that for most people their television is the centerpeace of their home.

He said that soon people will want to watch their television anywhere and that Dish is leading that charge and has all the technology already. He says soon people will be able to watch TV in their homes, when traveling and even moibilly.

Joe mentions that he recently got a slingbox and the sling software on his blackberry and ow much he loves it.

Charlie commented that Dish needs to make some changes, Dish is currently not a world class product and he wants it to be world class.

The interview then wraps up and Mark Jackson from Echostar comes out to let us know whats going on with Dish Network technology.

He starts by jumping in with the 922. He talks about the new remote which is UHF and uses 2G technlogy. After he goes over all the features of the new remote the one that gets the loudest roar from the crowd is the "Lost remote finder" feature.

Mark invites Leslie Harper out on stage, and Leslie does her best Vanna White to show off Sling Technology running on a Blackberry and an iPhone. Leslie then leaves and Mark shows off homeplug technology which seems to impress a lot of folks in the crowd. The new 922 has Homeplug Turbo which can go up to 7 MB/s.

Then Mark officially anounces the launch of Dish Remote Access which launcched today at DishNetwork.COM. He gives a demo of it including showing how you can watch shows from your home 922 using the Dish Remote Access portal.

He then shows us a new iPhone application they are working on that will turn your iPhone in a remote. (its like the dish.sling.com remote, but built into an actual iPhone application.) This remote application is expected to be released in June.

Mark then makes a huge announcement for all the retailers in attendance and that is that they will allow retailers who are in attendance that they can help beta test the 922 starting in June. The crowd goes NUTS!

Mark announces that the MSRP on the 922 will be $699.

Mark then talks about the TV2 IR Converter which allows a non Dish Network IR remote to operate TV2 on the dual tuner receivers. In addition it can be used to so that Slingbox users can finally hook their Slingbox's up to the TV2 output and contol the receiver. (YES!)

He shows off a new Dish 500+ intergrated LNB, it picks up 129, 119, 118.7 and 110 on one unit. It has a built in Dish Pro Plus Switch and will make life easy for a number of dealers.

Mark gets a nice round of applause as he finishes up.

Out next is Dave Shull from Programming.

Dave comes out and talks programming and tells us he has some exciting news for us. He talks about the push VOD service and mentions that soon all the movies pushed to the 622's will be in HD (the 722 has all the movies in HD already)

Dish Network currently has over 5000 movies available via Dish Online.

They will be changing the DishOnline feature to make it easier to find what you want to watch, including organizing things by genere. (Still looks like crap to me, Dish needs to look at DirecTV's VOD setup for how its done best.)

He talks about 1080p and tells us we will be seeing more 1080p.

The show a video of some of the 1080p movies they already aired on Dish Network.

He goes on to talk about internationals, Dish Network now has 168 international channels serving 28 languages.

Great News for our friends in Puerto Rico, soon the folks in PR will have more then 30 HD channels, plus they will be launching 10 regional channels which will only be available in PR on Dish Network.

Dish will be getting rid of the dual dish setup in PR and will have a single dish colution using a 30 inch Dish in 2010!

He then moves on to talk about HD locals and announces that Dish Network will launch 14 more HD locals markets by the end of the year.

By the end of the year Dish will have HD locals in 152 markets serving 93% of the population.

He then goes on to talk about the launch of Speed HD, FX HD, Logo HD, MAV HD & Fashion TV HD.

He then tells us that MSNBC in HD will be coming on June 29th.

Then he shows a video from CMT announcing that CMT Front Row will be presenting EXCLUSIVE concerts in HD once a month on Dish Network channel 101.

He recaps the announcements and gets a lot of applause as he exits and Ira Bahr from Marketing takes the stage.

Ira starts about talking the recession and how great this is for Dish. He says Dish Networks marketing was bad and needs to change (Yippie someone finally admits it!)

He then tells us that Dish will start pushing itself better to brand itself. He talks about how Dish is the HD leader. He then pulls up DirecTV's website and it shows that Dish has more then 130 HD channels, he laughs that even DirecTV's website shows that they are the HD leader. (This was funny... bet DirecTV takes that page down soon) :)

Then Ira shows a filing from DirecTV that mentions that DirecTV customers pay $20 more a month for their television then they would have paid if they got it from Dish.

He does on and talks about DirecTV's recent NFL Sunday Ticket deal and asked "Whos paying for this?" and makes a point that all DirecTV's customer are paying for the NFL package no matter if they subscribe to it or not.

With that he shows a commercial that asks why pay more for the same thing. Its a good ad, but still not good. While the ad sends a good message, I still think Beyonce dancing around half naked sells more satellite for DirecTV.

With that Ira wraps up and out come Jim Defranco and Steve McElroy. And in it Jim and Steve go over retailer things. They fixed many of the things that have been hurting dish sign up new subscribers.

Without giving away any dealer sensative information I will say that next Wednesday EVERYBODY who wants Dish Network will qualify.

It was an impressive show with some exciting news.

Now before anyone asks... nothing was mentioned at all about TurboHD (the word was never uttered) in addition no word on 24/7 RSN's.

I plan to hit the floor in a bit and get those questions answered. :)

Thanks everyone for being SatelliteGuys and thanks to everyone who signed up to be a supporting Pub Member this week. We want to continue to be able to do special events like this, but need your support to make it happy. For more details on becoming a supporting pub member please CLICK HERE.

Thanks for being SatelliteGuys!
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db2
Question for those that attended the private meeting with Dish:

I have been debating going to DirecTV because of the HD RSN debacle on Dish. Do you get a sense, after being at the private meeting, that Dish is going to remedy the HD RSN tp space issue? Or did you get a sense that it will take quite a will to fix if at all?

Believe me, I'm not trying to make a silly threat to switch providers. I am seriously considering a switch because I'm in a situation where I need another receiver and I don't want to commit to the Dish It Up agreement if I don't feel that Dish is going to fix the HD RSN thing.

Thanks
P
Dish spent way too much time talking up its 922. The thing has been delayed over and over, and it really is a lame implementation of the idea. The touchpad remote doesn't work well, and the box locks up over and over. And the integrated Sling is just a gee-whiz feature that will go nowhere fast. I'm guessing Dish will be getting massive customer complaints and requests to "downgrade" once the box actually goes to market. It could be Charlie's version of Windows Me.
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Question for those that attended the private meeting with Dish:

I have been debating going to DirecTV because of the HD RSN debacle on Dish. Do you get a sense, after being at the private meeting, that Dish is going to remedy the HD RSN tp space issue? Or did you get a sense that it will take quite a will to fix if at all?

Believe me, I'm not trying to make a silly threat to switch providers. I am seriously considering a switch because I'm in a situation where I need another receiver and I don't want to commit to the Dish It Up agreement if I don't feel that Dish is going to fix the HD RSN thing.

Thanks

I wasn't there, but if sports are important to you, E* is not the place to be.
C
Dish spent way too much time talking up its 922. The thing has been delayed over and over, and it really is a lame implementation of the idea. The touchpad remote doesn't work well, and the box locks up over and over. And the integrated Sling is just a gee-whiz feature that will go nowhere fast. I'm guessing Dish will be getting massive customer complaints and requests to "downgrade" once the box actually goes to market. It could be Charlie's version of Windows Me.

They have a hard enough time keeping all these other receivers stable and they don't even have all the bells and whistles the 922 is going to have. I wish they wouldn't try and integrate all these other technologies into a satellite receiver with the mediocre programmers they have. I know I will be sticking with a Slingbox solo and the 722k to get all the functionality I need from a satellite receiver. I've been waiting over 3 years now for them to fix a bug that now affects 211, 222, 622, 722 and 722k recievers when switching from a satellite tuner station to an OTA station and vice versa. It changes to the wrong station under certain circumstances. Heck, they still can't get TV2 IR functionality commited into the software for dual tuner receivers. Atleast they finally got some code in the 722k that gives you a message saying its not supported yet. I guess that's a start. TV2 IR should be simple compared to everything the are trying to do with the 922. I wouldn't get your hopes up about the 922 unless you love to beta test while watching tv.
tornado
Dish spent way too much time talking up its 922. The thing has been delayed over and over, and it really is a lame implementation of the idea. The touchpad remote doesn't work well, and the box locks up over and over. And the integrated Sling is just a gee-whiz feature that will go nowhere fast. I'm guessing Dish will be getting massive customer complaints and requests to "downgrade" once the box actually goes to market. It could be Charlie's version of Windows Me.

These are valid points. I never thought about it. I remember when they previewed the receiver with a built in DVD player. It was never released. Maybe that is what Dish should do with this. Their other current HD DVRs are all fine.
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
dishdude
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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Foxbat
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade
No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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osu1991
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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K
Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.