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So after screwing with D* for another full season of numb3rs & them not getting my HR-20 to record a single episode & No resolution I have been thinking of making a switch to Dish Net..
There are only a couple things holding me up & They are simply programming in HD as we do not watch Non HD content anymore..

The Big ticket item I Cant find a solid answer to is FX in HD.. It appears that it is now available, But I Cant find what is required to get it.. Is it part of one of the Turbo HD Packages or does it require a SD programming package.. I find that the prices with SD programming are more then what I am paying now for D* and since I already have 2 HD-DVR's & Wont be able to record Numb3rs on DishNet either since they dropped CBS as well I need to save some $$ monthly to make up for the expence of buying HD DVR's from DishNet beyond what I Can sell my D* ones for (Yes they are owned as I got them while I was a D* employee)..

Any Insite would be helpfull as to what I need programming wise.. Also What is the Cheapest Dual Tuner HD DVR they currently have & I Understand that there is a HD reciever that I Can attach an external Hard drive to to make it a DVR..
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Ditto from me to gopherscot's answer.
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I find that the prices with SD programming are more then what I am paying now for D* and since I already have 2 HD-DVR's & Wont be able to record Numb3rs on DishNet either since they dropped CBS as well I need to save some $$ monthly to make up for the expence of buying HD DVR's from DishNet beyond what I Can sell my D* ones for (Yes they are owned as I got them while I was a D* employee)..

Any Insite would be helpfull as to what I need programming wise.. Also What is the Cheapest Dual Tuner HD DVR they currently have & I Understand that there is a HD reciever that I Can attach an external Hard drive to to make it a DVR..

As a new sub, you can get a VIP722 or 722K free, as well as the single tuner 211 which you can add a HD to for a DVR. Best to call Dishstore for questions and best deals. HD receivers 612/622/722 have one OTA tuner. With the the 722K, you can purchase an add-on dual tuner module.
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So after screwing with D* for another full season of numb3rs & them not getting my HR-20 to record a single episode & No resolution I have been thinking of making a switch to Dish Net..
There are only a couple things holding me up & They are simply programming in HD as we do not watch Non HD content anymore..

The Big ticket item I Cant find a solid answer to is FX in HD.. It appears that it is now available, But I Cant find what is required to get it.. Is it part of one of the Turbo HD Packages or does it require a SD programming package.. I find that the prices with SD programming are more then what I am paying now for D* and since I already have 2 HD-DVR's & Wont be able to record Numb3rs on DishNet either since they dropped CBS as well I need to save some $$ monthly to make up for the expence of buying HD DVR's from DishNet beyond what I Can sell my D* ones for (Yes they are owned as I got them while I was a D* employee)..

Any Insite would be helpfull as to what I need programming wise.. Also What is the Cheapest Dual Tuner HD DVR they currently have & I Understand that there is a HD reciever that I Can attach an external Hard drive to to make it a DVR..

FX HD is one of several HD channels not currently available in the all-HD Turbo packages. These channels require a SD Classic package with the $10 HD add-on. We heard from Team Summit that E* was going rectify this discrepancy, but that was a month ago and nothing has changed. FX HD would require Classic Silver with the HD-add-on. If you can wait before switching, I'd wait until we see whether E* makes good on getting the Turbo packages on an equal footing with the Classic packages. Most of us don't buy E* receivers, instead leasing. You get charged the same amount whether you own a receiver or lease it from E*. The first lease fee and DVR fee is included in the package cost with the DDA program which includes locals. In terms of HD receivers only the 211k and 222k are nonDVR receivers. The 211 is for a single HDTV but is only a single tuner receiver (1 sat, 1 OTA). It is the one that can be turned into a DVR by paying a one-time fee and adding an external hard drive. The 222 is a nonDVR dual tuner receiver that provides signals to one HDTV and one SDTV. The 612 is an dual tuner HDDVR for one TV. It has 2 sat tuners and 1 OTA tuner. The 622 and 722 are similar dual tuner HDDVRs with 2 sat tuners and 1 OTA tuner. When used in single user mode, they have a PiP function. The 722K is like the 722 but with 2 OTA tuners in addition to 2 sat tuners so you ca record 4 things at once. The 922 incorporating Sling technology and a new interface is due out sometime in the Fall. As a new sub you will likely get a 722k if you subscribe now, so you'll need another HD receiver or DVR for your second HDTV. You can run 2 HDTVs off the same HD receiver but they both have to see the same programming. You need a second receiver for independent viewing in HD.
wolfjc
So after screwing with D* for another full season of numb3rs & them not getting my HR-20 to record a single episode & No resolution I have been thinking of making a switch to Dish Net..
There are only a couple things holding me up & They are simply programming in HD as we do not watch Non HD content anymore..

The Big ticket item I Cant find a solid answer to is FX in HD.. It appears that it is now available, But I Cant find what is required to get it.. Is it part of one of the Turbo HD Packages or does it require a SD programming package.. I find that the prices with SD programming are more then what I am paying now for D* and since I already have 2 HD-DVR's & Wont be able to record Numb3rs on DishNet either since they dropped CBS as well I need to save some $$ monthly to make up for the expence of buying HD DVR's from DishNet beyond what I Can sell my D* ones for (Yes they are owned as I got them while I was a D* employee)..

Any Insite would be helpfull as to what I need programming wise.. Also What is the Cheapest Dual Tuner HD DVR they currently have & I Understand that there is a HD reciever that I Can attach an external Hard drive to to make it a DVR..

Yes FX is in HD at least in the CLASSIC GOLD 250 package.
Dish has a VIP222k which does two TVs as the 222 implies, but I don't know if you can attach an external hard drive to the 222k I know that you can to the VIP211 which I have.
When you attach a external hard drive you have to pay $39.99 to activate it but you don't have to pay any monthly fee to use it as an DVR.
Also I think as a new customer all the installation and hard ware is no cost to you.
You could call the Dish store which advertises here on Satelliteguys and find out all you will need to know.
Also here is the Dish URL Satellite Television - DISH Network - 1.888.825.2557
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After several Phone calls to E* sales I Finely got through to Adam in Dever Co who was able to actually tell me that FX HD Exist's on Dishnet.. Go Figure he was also the 1st one in the states..

ANyways Point of all that was the he said it is avail with the Classic Silver.. Also the point of wanting to buy the receivers is to avoid a pesky commitment & I detest anyone having me by my short hairs.. Apparently If I pay for the install & Go with no promotions there is no commitment & Leasing a 722k & 211 would cost me only 130 (including having the DVR activated on the 211) which is the way I Would go since there is a SD set in my daughters room that could be slaved off the 722 when the 2nd tuner wasnt being used in the living room (several nights a week we have 2 programs recording at once)..

In the end though its the same as I am paying now so there is no cost savings to justify the 130 a month upfront.. So we will see how long it takes until dish makes that part of the Turbo Package's
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't WANNA KNOW-Maroon 5
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I Want to Know What Love Is - Foreigner
Bobby
Oh What A Night For Dancing - Barry White
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It's a Good Night for Singing - Jerry Jeff Walker
long_time_Dish
All Night Long - Joe Walsh
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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nelson61
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
dish has new sats dtv does not
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dish has new sats dtv does not
Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
comfortably_numb
What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?

NO.
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Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
While I agree but dish just launched a new sat. That can be used as an asset for Elon. Maybe he will repurpose em for his cell service. And if he wants tv to. God knows why he would but I think he will get a great deal on the contracts in place and equipment!!! I could think of better things to spend my money on. And to be honest Elon has nothing to offer me have blazing fast internet and ill never buy an ev. The veesee box and the super box are illegal.
tanman
For your viewing pleasure...
comfortably_numb
For your viewing pleasure...

That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
ncted
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.
TRG
TRG
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
I have gigabit fiber in an underground box on my property. But it's not lit up yet so I'm stuck with copper too. For now anyway.
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI
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Bobby
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.
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dishstaller
That brought tears to my eyes.
Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA&pp=ygUed29tYW4gaGVhcnMgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1l
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Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5UCDwHMatg?feature=share
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dishstaller
This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ
Juan
Its a shame nobody told him orange was blue and red was purple etc etc etc
T
Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv
b4pjoe
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
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harshness
Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
Neutron
Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.
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dishstaller
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
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Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.
Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.
navychop
I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.
Jimbo
Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.
I have the Roku's, 2 or 3, I just rarely use them ... I prefer the Google/Android Sony set up.

People tell me that the Apps on the TV will end thier usefulness as they age ... They are doing ok for me so far ... I also have the TV take the App Updates whenever possible ... then again, I don't know how often App updates come to it.

So, so far, I'm doing ok, but if they start to get sluggish, I'll eventually change to a Roku ... I don't want to, but eventually ... (Or buy another new TV :eeek:shh:clapping:biggrin
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I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.
As long as my Roku Ultra works I will use it. I use it for all of my streaming apps except for Prime. I read that Prime works best with Android TV's.
navychop
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
osu1991
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.
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Juan
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.459​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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Billboard along I-10 had reg at $3.81 and diesel at $5.54
Bobby
Regular$5.399​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
osu1991
$3.55
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$3.45 in Jane, MO.