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Last reply Jul 3, 2009 · posted in DIRECTV CE Discussion Forum (Now CLOSED)

HR2x & R22 CE Release 6/26 v.032C

PLEASE READ THIS FIRST! DirecTV Cutting Edge Program: Terms, FAQ, How-To, Hidden Features, and More

If you have any issues with this CE release, please post them in this thread. We'll try to help, and DirecTV will see / be aware of your issue

For the latest updates, check out the Satelliteguys CE Chat on Friday nights:
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Friday 6/26/2009 11pm - 2:30am ET
Saturday 6/27/2009 11pm - 2:30am ET

HR20, HR21, HR22, HR23, R22
Version 032C

Improvements & Updates

* New Feature: TV options DIRECTV Subtitling
* MRV touch ups
* DoublePlay touch ups
* Trickplay updates
* Aspect ratio changing on certain channels
* Box wrongly tuned to channel 9982 with screensaver showing
* Bookmarks updates
* Under the hood

Notes

* No keyword needed for TV Apps
* No keyword needed for DoublePlay
* Multi-Room-Video activated with keyword "MRVCLIENTON"
* You will lose your guide cache when reverting from CE to national
* Very High Risk Download
* When reporting issues with 1080p, please include the TV resolution information reported from the Miscellaneous Options screen as well as your TV model number

Previous Release Information:

New Features
01 - Multi-Room Viewing (enable with keyword search "MRVCLIENTON")
01 - Faster Reboots
03 - Dual Live Buffers (no longer requires keyword search to activate)

Improved/Updated
01 - Program Guide refinements
01 - Under the hood
01 - UI polishing
01 - 20 actors available again in listing
01 - Faster Guide
02 - DIRECTV On Demand in native mode
02 - Playlist sorting
02 - Prioritizer deletion
02 - Previous channel when exiting interactive
02 - Under the hood
03 - Fixed frequent rebooting introduced in CE:20:02
03 - Missing OTA Channels
03 - No Guide Data HR21-200 only
03 - MediaShare: Tversity subfolder playback
03 - Under the hood
04 - Fixed long time to get out of standby
04 - Dual Live Buffers (GameSwap)
----- Resolution issues when switching buffers
----- Scheduled recordings will default to background tuner when there is no response to conflict resolution dialog
----- New information message when activating
----- Deactivates after 2 hours of non-use
----- Deactivates by putting receiver in standby (turn off) for 5 minutes or more and then turn it back on
----- Removed Toggle Tuner menu from TV Options (Yellow Button)
04 - Reboot issues
04 - Black Screen
04 - Under the hood
05 - Receivers not getting software download
05 - Keep or Delete OSD upon playback
05 - DoublePlay: Channel banner display
05 - MediaShare: Unable to play videos
05 - Reboot issues
05 - Caller ID
05 - Record Series Conflict screen
05 - System Test
05 - Under the hood
06 - Trickplay to Normal Play speed
06 - No Audio on Local channel recording
06 - Audio on Mix channels
06 - MediaShare compatibility with media servers
06 - History and To Do List recording messages
06 - Record Series confirmation messages
06 - Booking live program recording prompts to add end time extension
06 - 1080p/24 TV compatibility
06 - Under the hood
07 - Spontaneous reboots
07 - Box unable to boot after CE download
07 - Lost audio after CE download
07 - Play button activates trickplay bar in ScoreGuide channels
07 - To Do List and History info screens
07 - MRV client playing back ATSC recordings
07 - DoublePlay after exiting recording
07 - Loss of background in interactive apps
07 - Under the hood
08 - MRV touch ups
08 - Playlist deletions upon software update
08 - GameSearch improvements
08 - Trickplay bar display
08 - Under the hood
09 - MRV touch ups
09 - Live Extension touch ups
09 - MediaShare fixes
09 - Incorrect title in Playlist
09 - Audio selection on ATSC channels
09 - To Do List information
09 - Under the hood
10 - MRV touch ups
10 - DoublePlay touch ups
10 - Under the hood touch ups, including 'unable to boot' reports from last week's CE
11 - DIRECTV Cinema marquee (channel 1100), even for those without internet
setup
11 - Play DIRECTV Cinema on-demand from program guide movie posters (try
the movie posters in the 1000's)
11 - Parental Controls touch ups
11 - MRV touch ups
11 - DoublePlay touch ups
11 - History information
11 - Under the hood

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cfb

Jun 29, 2009

I spoke too soon. Just like the last 2 weeks CE's, after 2.5 days MRV broke down. Watching a MRV'd show, halfway through the picture and audio start breaking up like rain fade coming on. Continues to play but unwatchable. Hitting exit brings you out to the playlist, but playing any MRV show causes the HR20 to freeze solid on a gray screen.

Other HR feeding the show continues to operate, but my experiences from the last two weeks were that it would freeze up within the hour or at least refuse to participate in sharing its playlist.

RBR'd the frozen one and menu restarted the other.

This should be recurring in another 2.5 days.

JosephB

Jun 30, 2009

They have GOT to do something about ignoring or laggy remote commands. I had a recording fast forward through half an hour of the show because it wouldn't respond to the play button. Before any new features are worked on or released, this MUST be fixed.

cfb

Jun 30, 2009

JosephB said:
They have GOT to do something about ignoring or laggy remote commands. I had a recording fast forward through half an hour of the show because it wouldn't respond to the play button. Before any new features are worked on or released, this MUST be fixed.

I took a stab at explaining this here
http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv...3-ether-port-two-mrv-options.html#post1876912

Maybe we just need to wait a while.

armchair

Jul 3, 2009

MRV Delete Problems

Since Tuesday night, I've only had MRV playback and Shared LIST working in the B/R DVR. I've been trying to turn MRV on/off in the L/R to no avail and finally restarted but again, no MRV list; no playback; no option to view Shared List (yellow button in LIST is missing bottom option: "Filter by Playlist" while Menu/setup/Location and MISC Options MultiRoomDVR confirm that MRV is on).

I've noticed slow updating on Shared MRV List and had inadvertently deleted the same show twice, first on the local DVR, then much later in the day on the remote DVR. I think deleting the same show, that in fact wasn't truly there, caused an unknown event that caused one DVR to stop recognizing the other while the other continues to show a Shared MRV LIST and playback from the remote DVR. If I get MRV right again, I'm toggling delete option to "this room only" and see if that helps with the slow updates on Shared List.

I've tried to avoid the excessive restarting of DVR's because that seems to induce the lag in remote response. But it looks like the same old restart both DVR's to recover MRV; I'll have to restart the DVR that's actually streaming MRV. Sending diagnostics Report from the L/R DVR that failed to display Shared List, options under List yellow button, and has MRV playback capabilities as a result.

My remote lag times hasn't been all that bad since I haven't been restarting so often and covering the IR window may have helped some too; I don't need it with RF remote but I covered it thinking that the CPU may be tasking itself needlessly only to ignore IR commands that were intended for the TV.

I tried to verify playback through beta 5313 DirecTv2PC but it seems to be stuck at "...checking for product updates". Haven't seen this before either; maybe I've encountered some porting problem in network or it's actually downloading an update without displaying activity? I think both may be port problems but in the case of the HR22's, they are directly connected and should be able to resolve their own conflict with MRVCLIENTOFF/ON.

Diagnostic Report # 20080702-3722

armchair

Jul 3, 2009

armchair said:
Since Tuesday night, I've only had MRV playback and Shared LIST working in the B/R DVR. I've been trying to turn MRV on/off in the L/R to no avail and finally restarted but again, no MRV list; no playback; no option to view Shared List (yellow button in LIST is missing bottom option: "Filter by Playlist" while Menu/setup/Location and MISC Options MultiRoomDVR confirm that MRV is on).

I've noticed slow updating on Shared MRV List and had inadvertently deleted the same show twice, first on the local DVR, then much later in the day on the remote DVR. I think deleting the same show, that in fact wasn't truly there, caused an unknown event that caused one DVR to stop recognizing the other while the other continues to show a Shared MRV LIST and playback from the remote DVR. If I get MRV right again, I'm toggling delete option to "this room only" and see if that helps with the slow updates on Shared List.

I've tried to avoid the excessive restarting of DVR's because that seems to induce the lag in remote response. But it looks like the same old restart both DVR's to recover MRV; I'll have to restart the DVR that's actually streaming MRV. Sending diagnostics Report from the L/R DVR that failed to display Shared List, options under List yellow button, and has MRV playback capabilities as a result.

My remote lag times hasn't been all that bad since I haven't been restarting so often and covering the IR window may have helped some too; I don't need it with RF remote but I covered it thinking that the CPU may be tasking itself needlessly only to ignore IR commands that were intended for the TV.

I tried to verify playback through beta 5313 DirecTv2PC but it seems to be stuck at "...checking for product updates". Haven't seen this before either; maybe I've encountered some porting problem in network or it's actually downloading an update without displaying activity? I think both may be port problems but in the case of the HR22's, they are directly connected and should be able to resolve their own conflict with MRVCLIENTOFF/ON.

Diagnostic Report # 20080702-3722

Yes, restarting the MRV streamable HR22 in B/R got both HR22's streaming MRV and sharing LIST again as well as DirecTv2PC now launches w/o getting stuck at "...checking for product updates". I'm testing with "allow deletion: from this room only" on both HR22's to see if I can get closer to real-time updates on the Shared List. I may switch it back to "allow deletion: from all rooms" late in the x32f CE test, and sooner if I can get some positive feedback on x32f MRV list, performance and stability. I hate to send redundant or false diagnostic reports but I may have sent report from the wrong HR22!

Sorry about that!

cfb

Jul 3, 2009

cfb said:
I spoke too soon. Just like the last 2 weeks CE's, after 2.5 days MRV broke down. Watching a MRV'd show, halfway through the picture and audio start breaking up like rain fade coming on. Continues to play but unwatchable. Hitting exit brings you out to the playlist, but playing any MRV show causes the HR20 to freeze solid on a gray screen.

Other HR feeding the show continues to operate, but my experiences from the last two weeks were that it would freeze up within the hour or at least refuse to participate in sharing its playlist.

RBR'd the frozen one and menu restarted the other.

This should be recurring in another 2.5 days.

Took four full days to do the same thing, MRV died in my play on from the bedroom to the living room, and after that the bedroom unit couldnt see anything on the living room unit.

Will see if this persists in the CE coming out tonight. Should manifest itself by tuesday if thats the case.

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply 5 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Sep 18, 2026

Now testing on the stream server:
WJBF-D2 CW Augusta GA
KSVI-D2 CW Billings MT
WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX

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KyL416

Oct 8, 2026

PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.

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KyL416

Wednesday at 7:23 AM

NBA League Pass prep

Some more reshuffles

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KyL416

Wednesday at 2:49 PM

KyL416 said:
The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

They finally announced ClipperVision, it will be on DIRECTV, but they didn't provide a channel number yet.

EDIT: It's going to be on channel 693

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KyL416

Yesterday at 6:36 PM

KyL416 said:
WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX

These are now live on stream and weren't testing on satellite as of yesterday:
WETM-DT/19 CW Elmira
WJET-DT/25 CW Erie
KLFY-DT/11 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 CW Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 CW Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 CW Utica
KFDX-DT/4 CW Wichita Falls

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KyL416

Yesterday at 7:30 PM

KyL416 said:
The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

West Palm Beach is getting it on WTCN-CD/43 MNT. Still nothing for Fort Myers

Also, the Thunder's deal for KSBI/52 OKC and KQCW/19 Tulsa will be via a special cable and DIRECTV only feed of those stations. OTA viewers and Dish customers will be limited to 10 games.

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dtv757

5 minutes ago

Thanks for the updates on CW norfolk
Hopefully comes to sat soon!!

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 8 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Hughesnet cancelling email addresses

Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…

navychop

Yesterday at 3:16 PM

Foxbat said:
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 3:30 PM

navychop said:
Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…

klang

Yesterday at 4:21 PM

Foxbat said:
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.

JSheridan

Yesterday at 4:51 PM

Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.

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EarDemon

Yesterday at 8:25 PM

Yep, I got the notification a few days ago. I'm not totally surprised.

Never used the address for anything, so no big loss to me.

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ncted

8 minutes ago

JSheridan said:
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.

AOL killed mine years ago without any notice. I actually lost contact with some old friends as that was the only address I ever used to communicate with them.

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 9 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Paramount +

For the naysayers who did not think this service would make it, just added another 4.9M subscribers and that was after the removal of 1.2M Russia subscribers.

This is even better, Paramount+ revenue grew 120% and Subscription revenue grew 74% year-over-year ( 2nd quarter 2021/ 2nd quarter 2022) to $830M, principally reflecting paid subscriber growth on Paramount+.

Now compare that to Peacock with only 13 million paid, 13 million free.

https://ir.paramount.com/static-files/19c917ac-a92b-4e68-920a-db1264e56def

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Bruce

Oct 4, 2026

Just noticed, CBS shows on Paramount+ are now same day premieres vs next day, which is how they used to be.

Also in 4K/HDR/DV.

I wonder how providers feel about this, they pay an expensive per sub fee for CBS, who is giving another positive reason to drop Paid Live TV and subscribe to P+.

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Jimbo

Oct 6, 2026

Bruce said:
Just noticed, CBS shows on Paramount+ are now same day premieres vs next day, which is how they used to be.

Also in 4K/HDR/DV.

I wonder how providers feel about this, they pay an expensive per sub fee for CBS, who is giving another positive reason to drop Paid Live TV and subscribe to P+.

So, this means that those of us with Commercial Free subs, won't be Commercial Free, unless we wait till after the show is over ?
Which would make same day, not that big of a deal.

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b4pjoe

Oct 6, 2026

Jimbo said:
So, this means that those of us with Commercial Free subs, won't be Commercial Free, unless we wait till after the show is over ?
Which would make same day, not that big of a deal.

Paramount+ has always had the CBS shows on the CBS local channel and yes with commercials. What they are doing now is releasing the OnDemand versions of the show which I believe they don't release until after the shows air on the west coast. And they will be commercial free if you subscribe to the ad free version of Paramount+.

Jimbo

Oct 6, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Paramount+ has always had the CBS shows on the CBS local channel and yes with commercials. What they are doing now is releasing the OnDemand versions of the show which I believe they don't release until after the shows air on the west coast. And they will be commercial free if you subscribe to the ad free version of Paramount+.

So, the New season won't be on the same day commercial free ???

Looks like the On Demand will Still be the Next Day ...

If you have the Top tier, you could get the LIVE Network feed same as any Cable or OTA would.
===============================================================================

Key facts

Premiere date: Tuesday, Oct. 6, 2026
Release schedule: Weekly on Tuesdays
Network: CBS
Streaming: Paramount+*
Series created by: Donald P. Bellisario and Don McGill

*New episodes of NCIS stream live on Paramount+ as they air on CBS for subscribers of the Paramount+ Premium plan. Episodes stream on demand on Paramount+ on the day after they air on CBS for all subscribers.

b4pjoe

Oct 6, 2026

Jimbo said:
So, the New season won't be on the same day commercial free ???

Looks like the On Demand will Still be the Next Day ...

If you have the Top tier, you could get the LIVE Network feed same as any Cable or OTA would.
===============================================================================

Key facts

Premiere date: Tuesday, Oct. 6, 2026

Release schedule: Weekly on Tuesdays

Network: CBS

Streaming: Paramount+*

Series created by: Donald P. Bellisario and Don McGill

*New episodes of NCIS stream live on Paramount+ as they air on CBS for subscribers of the Paramount+ Premium plan. Episodes stream on demand on Paramount+ on the day after they air on CBS for all subscribers.

Watching it on the CBS local on Paramount+ is the exact same as watching it on your CBS local on your current cable/satellite/mvpd/vMVPD service. The OnDemand versions of it can be released on the same day that it airs but usually it is after the show airs on the west coast so if you have a show at 7:00 pm in your time zone and it airs 3 hours later on the west coast at 10:00 pm your time then they could release it at 11:00 pm your time if it was a one hour show. I really have not checked to see what time I can see the ad free OnDemand shows on Paramount+. I know today that last nights FBI and CIA show did not pop into the Up Next row on my Apple TV until this afternoon. I guess it may have been in Paramount+ since last night but I never checked it.

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Jimbo

57 minutes ago

b4pjoe said:
Watching it on the CBS local on Paramount+ is the exact same as watching it on your CBS local on your current cable/satellite/mvpd/vMVPD service. The OnDemand versions of it can be released on the same day that it airs but usually it is after the show airs on the west coast so if you have a show at 7:00 pm in your time zone and it airs 3 hours later on the west coast at 10:00 pm your time then they could release it at 11:00 pm your time if it was a one hour show. I really have not checked to see what time I can see the ad free OnDemand shows on Paramount+. I know today that last nights FBI and CIA show did not pop into the Up Next row on my Apple TV until this afternoon. I guess it may have been in Paramount+ since last night but I never checked it.

I think I read 3am est the next day, somewhere.

b4pjoe

9 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
I think I read 3am est the next day, somewhere.

I wasn't up at 3:00 am to check but they are there at 8:00 am today.

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jamieh1

Last reply 13 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

Directv curated multi view now live

The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.

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KyL416

Tuesday at 7:29 PM

It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

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b4pjoe

Tuesday at 7:30 PM

KyL416 said:
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.

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TheRatPatrol

Yesterday at 11:37 PM

KyL416 said:
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks

I WANT MORE

Today at 7:36 AM

b4pjoe said:
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.

It's on my Air's.

b4pjoe

13 minutes ago

I WANT MORE said:
It's on my Air's.

The post read: "currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen". It didn't mention the Air. I suppose when it said Geminis it meant both but I had no way of knowing that.

Foxbat

Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 17 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…

Apple TV 4K

Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.

www.apple.com

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Ronnie-

Tuesday at 9:19 PM

Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.

Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.

It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

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navychop

Tuesday at 9:31 PM

Ronnie- said:
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

navychop

Yesterday at 12:55 PM

Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

KAB

Yesterday at 7:46 PM

navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:08 AM

navychop said:
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what

. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

ncted

19 minutes ago

slow_poke_pete said:
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade

No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.

ncted

17 minutes ago

KAB said:
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.

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Linus Tech Tips

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NVIDIA Told me How to Benchmark RTX Spark

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"MysteryMan"

Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 7:24 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Windows 10/11 Download

I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.

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EarDemon

Tuesday at 9:43 PM

If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

WhiteBeard

Tuesday at 9:59 PM

EarDemon said:
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

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EarDemon

Wednesday at 10:12 PM

WhiteBeard said:
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.

harshness

Yesterday at 11:18 AM

EarDemon said:
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.

What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.

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EarDemon

Yesterday at 8:55 PM

harshness said:
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?

Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.

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EarDemon

Yesterday at 9:10 PM

I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

harshness

Today at 12:56 AM

EarDemon said:
Because it's what I prefer.

I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.

HipKat

Today at 7:24 AM

EarDemon said:
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

I used to pin the C: drive to the Win Taskbar and it would open in cascading style

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Former member 209992

Last reply Today at 6:03 AM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 3:39 PM

Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 3:42 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

WTF… …What the Foxbat!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:28 AM

zipping right along here

slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:29 AM

Foxbat said:
WTF… …What the Foxbat!

wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin

Foxbat

Today at 12:38 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you

I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:03 AM

Foxbat said:
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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OMG to freaking funny :biggrin

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cpdretired

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 6:02 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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bnewt

Sep 23, 2026

Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

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ewindowman

Tuesday at 3:09 PM

Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.

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Almighty1

Tuesday at 9:52 PM

ewindowman said:
Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.

Never had time to use the Hopper 3 account app yet. I also have a Hopper Plus so it's not the same as the Hopper 3 standalone. Will try it when I have more time, need to beat the taxes extension filing deadline first as I am still working on entering the data into the tax software.

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Almighty1

Wednesday at 6:49 AM

This is what I see when it comes to offers on My Account on the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com:

AMC+ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
AMC+ Free for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
AMC+ 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Cine y Entretenimie 50% off for 3 months

DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

DISH Movie Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

DOGTV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Gallery First Month Free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Heartland Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Mexico y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

MGM+ $0.00/Month not saying how long (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Multi-Sport Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Netflix Standard with Ads, $7.99/month credit toward Netflix Standard with Ads ($.99) month with 24 month DISH commitment
(Only on My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Outdoor Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 50% off for three months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 2 months free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Playboy TV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Republica Dominicana 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

STARZ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
STARZ $1.99/month for 2 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Sudamerica y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

UP Faith & Family 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 11:45 PM

bnewt said:
Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

look again mine says free for 1 month

Almighty1

Today at 2:13 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:02 AM

Almighty1 said:
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 5:56 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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