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tdillon
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HD on all 4 televisions

Now that HD televisions are very affordable, I have replaced my old CRT televisions in the bedrooms with 26 inch HDTV flat panels. Of course, with my 622 DVR and 625 DVR I only have ONE HD signal available in the house. What is Dish doing for people that have transitioned to today's technology? All of the sets have ATSC antenna inputs, so for now I have piped in programming from my OTA antenna. In Los Angeles that is over 65 digital channels, with about 8 channels having at least some HD programming. Since there is only 1 RF connector on the televisions, I've had to put an A/B switch on the sets to allow them to either get the NTSC signals from my Dish DVRs or the ATSC programming from my OTA antenna. I tried combining the signals of the two sources, but the Dish signals get washed out with interference from competing signals in the OTA feed. My long-term strategy will either be to get HD Tivo's for each tv and only use local programming, or to get HD equipment everywhere from my subscription tv provider, currently DISH. My alternative providers are Verizon FIOS or Time Warner Cable. All subscription based services are woefully behind in offering HD everywhere. Any suggestions? Am I alone? Are others trying to get HD on all of their TVs?
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Ozma
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I have 4 HDTV's. I have 4 722's. It was HELL getting them from DISH. I wound up buying two and leasing two more. They didn't want to do this. I had to deal with "executive problem resolution". I just told them that DirecTV (or Comcast) had no problems with supplying me with 4 DVR's and if DISH didn't want to do that I'd be saying goodbye (after 7 years). I also didn't want to hook up phones. They said that without the phone connection they'd ding me $5 a receiver. I told them to permanently waive the fee or I'd be gone. They complied.

The 722 can record two DISH signals and one OTA signal (simultaneously).

I only stick with DISH because (supposedly) their 722 is a better DVR than others.

They seem to have a real problem with the idea that a household has more than 2 HDTV's.

Avoid the 722K. The 722 already has OTA built in. The 722K can record 2 OTA's vs. the 722's single OTA, but you pay extra per 722K box for OTA capability.

Beware heat issues on the 722. The damn things never fully shut off. Monitor the temperatures on the diagnostic screen and add cooling as necessary.

By the way, the idea of using a single DVR to drive two TV's is one of the most idiotic things that I have ever ever seen. PIP is great, recording while watching is great.

Sometimes I wonder if DISH wants to fail.


tdillon said:
Now that HD televisions are very affordable, I have replaced my old CRT televisions in the bedrooms with 26 inch HDTV flat panels. Of course, with my 622 DVR and 625 DVR I only have ONE HD signal available in the house. What is Dish doing for people that have transitioned to today's technology? All of the sets have ATSC antenna inputs, so for now I have piped in programming from my OTA antenna. In Los Angeles that is over 65 digital channels, with about 8 channels having at least some HD programming. Since there is only 1 RF connector on the televisions, I've had to put an A/B switch on the sets to allow them to either get the NTSC signals from my Dish DVRs or the ATSC programming from my OTA antenna. I tried combining the signals of the two sources, but the Dish signals get washed out with interference from competing signals in the OTA feed. My long-term strategy will either be to get HD Tivo's for each tv and only use local programming, or to get HD equipment everywhere from my subscription tv provider, currently DISH. My alternative providers are Verizon FIOS or Time Warner Cable. All subscription based services are woefully behind in offering HD everywhere. Any suggestions? Am I alone? Are others trying to get HD on all of their TVs?
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MikeD-C05
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WHy would anyone avoid the 722k? I have one and they are wonderful. I can record 4 shows at one time;2 sat /2 ota. I replaced my two 722 receivers with one 722k and payed just 29.99 for the ota module and added my external hard drive and I can get by with one receiver now . With the custom folders option , I can put all of my shows and my wife's shows in neat organized genres: News, Daytime, Primetime,Late night,Films, Home decore for my wife's decorating shows. The 722k is the best receiver that DISH has ever had till the new 922 comes out. The 922 is based on the same receiver but with new guides, menus, channel logos, sling loaded. This receiver will come with the ability for a small 15 " hdtv that will have a second hd outlet that can be added. So you can watch hd on your main tv, the 15 " hdtv will work via wi-fi in the kitchen , and you can watch tv2 in sd in other rooms. The only question is will the main hdtv and the second wi-fi hdtv be watching the same thing at the same time?
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MikeD-C05 said:
WHy would anyone avoid the 722k? I have one and they are wonderful. I can record 4 shows at one time;2 sat /2 ota. I replaced my two 722 receivers with one 722k...
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Unless you actually record four things at once (2 ota and 2 sat) on a regular basis, then it sounds like you could have gotten by with a single 722 too -- unless your locals aren't available via sat (then I can see the advantage for you of the 722k over a 722).
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Ozma said:
I have 4 HDTV's. I have 4 722's. It was HELL getting them from DISH. I wound up buying two and leasing two more.
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That's just plain overkill (and over spending) You could have leased two 612's (maybe more). Why have four duo TV receivers if you are not going to use them as such (and since you don't believe in them)?
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Ozma
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Three reasons for the 722's....

1) They seemed to have the best reviews and best reliability of the DISH devices (I spent months researching this, got some failure info from the San Jose and Santa Barbara DISH installers, 722's had the least returns).

2) The hard disk is larger than the 612.

3) I like PIP. Use it all the time. Not available on the 612.

As far as overspending I didn't think the delta between 612 and 722 prices was that big a deal given the 722 advantages.


KAB said:
That's just plain overkill (and over spending) You could have leased two 612's (maybe more). Why have four duo TV receivers if you are not going to use them as such (and since you don't believe in them)?
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STL said:
Unless you actually record four things at once (2 ota and 2 sat) on a regular basis, then it sounds like you could have gotten by with a single 722 too -- unless your locals aren't available via sat (then I can see the advantage for you of the 722k over a 722).
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Did you read my post? It details why I like having one 722k vs two 722 dvrs for me and wife. Saves me the extra 5.98 dvr fee and the extra 7.00 additional receiver fee. Beside having the ability to record up to 4 things at one time is great because it gives you more options. Why would anyone object to more options?:confused:
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MikeD-C05 said:
Did you read my post? It details why I like having one 722k vs two 722 dvrs for me and wife. Saves me the extra 5.98 dvr fee and the extra 7.00 additional receiver fee. Beside having the ability to record up to 4 things at one time is great because it gives you more options. Why would anyone object to more options?:confused:
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Did you read my post? I suggested that if you could get by one ONE 722k then you most likely could have gotten by with ONE 722. So your talk about the dvr fee and add'l rec'r fee in this above reply is pointless (and suggests you didn't really read my post). I admit the 722k (with OTA tuner module) can record more things at once than a regular 722, but unless your OTAs aren't available via sat then I doubt you really ever use all four tuners at once -- so as I said before, you could have gotten by with a single 722 too.
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Ozma said:
I stand by my earlier post, two TV's off a single DVR is one of the dumbest things that I have ever seen.
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I have my lone 722 driving 3 HDTVs and 2 SDTVs. Sure there is only one HD output so all the HDTVs must be on the same channel (if they are watching HD) but I can only be in one place at one time so it works for me. Having the extra SD output that is independent from the HD output is great too because it can drive any one of the other four TVs in the house -- so I can watch my HD programming while my son/wife watch some other program elsewhere in the house (albeit in SD). It seems kind of wasteful to spend money on (the fees for) multiple 722s if you really only going to watch one (or two) TV(s) at a time.

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I like PIP. Use it all the time. Not available on the 612.
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Again I see no reason to toy with PIP when you have a dual tuner DVR. If you are really interested in two programs that are on at the same time, record both and watch them both entirely instead of playing the swap back and forth game. IMO, the need for PIP all but died when I got a dual tuner DVR. Maybe I'm missing something, but so far no one has be able to explain it to me (or even tried really).
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Concerning PIP: Have had it for years with TV's on unscrambled cable. Tend to channel surf a lot, just wandering around the airways. Will stop on something interesting while waiting for a commercial to end on the news. With PIP you just monitor the one program while waiting for another. Don't necessarily want to record it. The approach you mention works as well, but I prefer PIP (personal taste) for surfing.

Concerning the 4 TV's/DVR's: There are 4 people watching stuff at the same time, they may also be recording stuff as well. Rule of thumb that I use is one TV needs at least 2 data streams (for recording, PIP, whatever).


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I have my lone 722 driving 3 HDTVs and 2 SDTVs. Sure there is only one HD output so all the HDTVs must be on the same channel (if they are watching HD) but I can only be in one place at one time so it works for me. Having the extra SD output that is independent from the HD output is great too because it can drive any one of the other four TVs in the house -- so I can watch my HD programming while my son/wife watch some other program elsewhere in the house (albeit in SD). It seems kind of wasteful to spend money on (the fees for) multiple 722s if you really only going to watch one (or two) TV(s) at a time.

Again I see no reason to toy with PIP when you have a dual tuner DVR. If you are really interested in two programs that are on at the same time, record both and watch them both entirely instead of playing the swap back and forth game. IMO, the need for PIP all but died when I got a dual tuner DVR. Maybe I'm missing something, but so far no one has be able to explain it to me (or even tried really).
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Did you read my post? I suggested that if you could get by one ONE 722k then you most likely could have gotten by with ONE 722. So your talk about the dvr fee and add'l rec'r fee in this above reply is pointless (and suggests you didn't really read my post). I admit the 722k (with OTA tuner module) can record more things at once than a regular 722, but unless your OTAs aren't available via sat then I doubt you really ever use all four tuners at once -- so as I said before, you could have gotten by with a single 722 too.
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Okay let me try one more time and really try to clear this up for you. I DO record 4 things at a time and do it during prime time hours on Mondays , Wednesdays, Thursdays and on Fridays. We have multiple conflicts during the tv season , what with American Idol, Dancing with the Stars , not to mention the Monday night comedies on Cbs. My wife also wants her decorating shows recorded and they come on during the day and night times. So during the day we have the decorating shows, the soaps, The View, also I record premium movies stations like Hbo/Cinemax and Starz at all times of the day and night. At night I record the late night comedy shows like David Letterman and Conan on the ota tuners and use the two sat tuners for Movies and decorating shows. WE are power recorders and we do use the 4 tuners.

IN my master bedroom we use the dual tuner Echostar dtv pal plus dvr for ota network fare , news shows , soaps, and some shows we can't fit in during prime times due to having 5 conflicts with the Cw . I also have three external hard drives full of movies and series tv that I recorded that we couldn't all watch last fall; Heroes, Medium, Rescue me. I love not having to have two 722 dvrs anymore and I love saving the extra 7.00+ 5.98 =12.98 a month to use the extra dvr.

So don't doubt me when I say that I DO record 4 things at a time. THE 722k is the best dvr that DISH has ever created and it was made for people like me and my wife . By the way I have Houston hd locals , that I "moved" to get, and my ota stations from Beaumont for local news and a lot of prime time programming due to all my local ota channels are in HD now.
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MikeD-C05 said:
So don't doubt me when I say that I DO record 4 things at a time.
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You never said that you actually use all four tuners when you replied to my post -- hence me asking again (especially when your reply talked about fees that seem irrelavent to what I was talking about) . You are a power DVR user indeed and not a typical user. Just like a sole 722k services you, I think many typical users would be fine with a sole 722 if they simply invested in some distribution equipment (which is a one time cost versus the recurring cost fees of multiple 722s).
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Okay I agree, many would be comfortable using a 722 for their own recording needs. The problem is that the 722k is now the latest dvr being pushed to the new subs. so the 722 , like the 622 before it, might not be available any longer .
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Fox Is Buying Roku in $22 Billion Deal

Fox Is Buying Roku in $22 Billion Deal
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Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
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Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
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That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
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Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
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navychop said:
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
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Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.
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That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
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The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
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Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
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Juan said:
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
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Had a customer come in a couple weeks ago to pay her internet bill. She let me know in no uncertain terms that she did NOT appreciate me running the same ads over and over. I looked at her and waited for her to laugh and say she was just joking.......still waiting for that laugh.
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Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
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There is one there too. I would think either is justifiable as they make both the device and provide a streaming program service.

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Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Bruce
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Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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dish has new sats dtv does not
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dish has new sats dtv does not
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Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
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Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
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While I agree but dish just launched a new sat. That can be used as an asset for Elon. Maybe he will repurpose em for his cell service. And if he wants tv to. God knows why he would but I think he will get a great deal on the contracts in place and equipment!!! I could think of better things to spend my money on. And to be honest Elon has nothing to offer me have blazing fast internet and ill never buy an ev. The veesee box and the super box are illegal.
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AT&T, T-Mobile Are Reportedly Ready To Boot Boost Mobile If SpaceX Buys It

Semafor’s Rohan Goswami said that AT&T and T-Mobile have discussed removing Boost Mobile from their networks if SpaceX acquires the EchoStar unit, creating a potential obstacle to Elon Musk’s push to become a major U.S. wireless carrier.
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For your viewing pleasure...
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AT&T, T-Mobile Are Reportedly Ready To Boot Boost Mobile If SpaceX Buys It

Semafor’s Rohan Goswami said that AT&T and T-Mobile have discussed removing Boost Mobile from their networks if SpaceX acquires the EchoStar unit, creating a potential obstacle to Elon Musk’s push to become a major U.S. wireless carrier.
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That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
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That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
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That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:
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That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:
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They don't care... they're milkin' the cow. Buddying up with Elon to provide him an MVNO network will make their investors and shareholders salivate. All of their recent marketing efforts have failed, so this move makes a lot of sense.
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Musk Seeking to Expand SpaceX Into a Cellular Provider

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
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Yespage said:
Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
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I agree to a point. The transfer policy is creating parity, but only for the top 20-25 teams. The other 110+ teams in the FBS are just breeding grounds for the bigger schools which have more money and more recruiting appeal.

If a smaller school recruits, trains, and matures a quality player, they can't keep them past their sophomore year because the bigger schools snatch them up. Example: LSU didn't cultivate Sam Leavitt, they just harvested him from other schools. LSU is a top contender, in large part because of Leavitt. Michigan State and Arizona State.................are not. If either of those schools had been able to retain his services, who knows where they would be now.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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Coach says afternoon game result of SEC "conspiracy". The rivalry game vs. Ala. will kick off in the afternoon at Baton Rouge rather than at night, which head coach Lane Kiffin says is intentional in order to neutralize fan craziness and noise, which is believed to help lead to wins for squads playing at home. "Obviously the SEC wanted to change this year from how it had been to give LSU less advantage, (considering) how well LSU plays at night and how intimidating it is to play here. So I guess when I look at it that way, I'm not surprised."

But he's come up with an ingenious solution. "Go to bed earlier Fri. night, then start your day earlier. Have breakfast earlier. Start drinking earlier. Whatever your routine is, just move it up."

Meantime ads have been running for a "Protect College Sports Act" moving through Congress.
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Bruce
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Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...
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Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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Foxbat said:
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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savarese04 said:
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.
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Foxbat said:
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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I have gigabit fiber in an underground box on my property. But it's not lit up yet so I'm stuck with copper too. For now anyway.
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Updated to H715 on a Hopper 3 from H713

After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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Sony MDR-3R Walkman USB-C Headphones

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Earth’s New Mini Moon: Meet Asteroid 2026 QQ8

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6kVDC3xcUVE


Direct YouTube Link - Earth's New Mini Moon: Meet Asteroid 2026 QQ8
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Color blind man sees full colors for first time at age 66

Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI
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dishstaller said:
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI
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That brought tears to my eyes.
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Bobby said:
That brought tears to my eyes.
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Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA&pp=ygUed29tYW4gaGVhcnMgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1l
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Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5UCDwHMatg?feature=share
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This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ
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Its a shame nobody told him orange was blue and red was purple etc etc etc
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Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv
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