Social Feed

Main Feed My Feed
A
ABemis
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

SWM, ? Accutrac, DirecTV Youtube install video

I have a question on using an Accutrac Pro signal level meter to align and peak a 5 LNB SWM; I am referring to a DirecTV installation video on Youtube -
DIRECTV New SWM Line LNB Satellite Dish Install Part 2; I also attached a snapshot 1port.jpg of this one port use on a Accutrac Pro signal level meter.

With the ASL1, only one of the two input ports is used on the Accutrac Pro signal level meter; however, the Accutrac Pro has two input ports; it was designed to align and peak a dual LNB dish.

Are there any technical reasons not to use both ports on the Accutrac Pro signal level meter with the 101 and 119 ASL1 ports? Specifically, I would connect 101 from the ASL1 to the first Accutrac port (one cable); I would connect 119 from the ASL1 to the second Accutrac port (second cable). I would use both ports and use both Accutrac Pro signal level indicators to align and peak the dish on 101 and 119. I ask as this is not displayed in the DirecTV installation video. I also ask this appears, at least to me, to be a more accurate method to peak on 101 and 119. I can see the level indicators for 101 and 119 at the same time. This is in contrast to the switch of cables back and forth, as displayed on the DirecTV Youtube video.

End
Read more
1port.jpg
5 Replies · 4667 views
Load Replies (5) Reply Legacy View
D
Diansul
I've got an Acutrac22 Pro coming, and I'd be very interested in this answer, too... In fact, I almost asked the question myself, but I've asked a bunch of questions lately and didn't want to wear out my welcome.
Read more
Reply
Bob Nielsen
Bob Nielsen
I don't see how it would help, since you don't adjust for 101 and 119 at the same time. The official method in the videos is to peak AZ and EL on 101, then adjust tilt to peak 119 without touching AZ and EL (101 won't be affected by the tilt setting). After that you dither AZ and EL to make sure you are centered on the beam. At that point a check of 99 and 103 is in probably order, followed by some fine tuning if necessary. Further adjustment for 119 could easily mess up 99 and 103, which have much sharper beamwidths.
Read more
Reply
scarebear
scarebear
the swm install class for D* says use both, but you don't have to its not that big of a deal
Read more
Reply
A
ABemis
With the Accutrac Pro, I could watch the signal strength on 101 while making the adjustments to 119. I realize specific instructions are in the "certifcation course" as mentioned on the DirecTV installation video. In this alignment and peaking instructions (used in this course) for the Slimline dish 5 LNB (SWM or "regular" 5 LNB), and better clarified in other vidoes, with the dual inputs on the Accutrac signal meter, I could peak on 119 while maintaining the peak on 101. I could see both. Practically though, from what I know (which is never enough) the peak would be maintained on 101 while establishing the peak on 119.
With a legacy meter, which the Accutrac Pro is, and the ALS1, I am not aware how I could peak on 99 nor 103. There are no 99 nor 103 outputs on the ALS1. Legacy meters cannot demodulate the signal from SWM LNBs. Once the SWM LNB founds an the receiver, the SWM goes into programming mode, as mentioned in the
DirectTv installation videos.
So I would appreciate any additional replies to my question with the Accutrac Pro signal strength meter.
Read more
Reply
B
bobzorunkle
I am pondering the same issues. If you're only using one input, why couldn't you use a cheaper (1-input) meter? Also- is the ASL-1 necessary or is there a way to avoid using it?
Read more
Reply
R
Ray_Clum
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Wireless Joey4 (Android TV)

I had an old Wireless Joey replaced by a Wireless Joey 4 (Android TV) - still have a Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. What do I have to do to get the EPG to show channel logos instead of "Dish"? This is annoying as hell and it's been this way for over a month…
Read more
IMG_6229.webp
3 Replies · 59 views
Load Replies (3) Reply Legacy View
B
bnewt
That kind of crap annoys me to no end.
That is one reason I haven't switched to h3and the same wireless joey 4
Hope you get it resolved.
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
KAB
KAB
Just so you know, my WJ4 (with no Hopper+) shows all the logos. I can't think of why yours isn't. I'll do some digging in the settings.
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
Scott Greczkowski
Scott Greczkowski
They "should" appear after a few days. If not reboot the hopper and joey. Sometimes it needs a kick.
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
M
MorCowbell
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Saved OTA list on Dish can't be appended

I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd​ scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list. :mad:

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
Read more
2 Replies · 86 views
Load Replies (2) Reply Legacy View
dishstaller
dishstaller
I hear complaints from customers each and every day. I chose not to install OTAs with a doggle for a reason.

BTW, I like your user name


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MXNU6pQFkok
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
rvvaquero
rvvaquero
MorCowbell said:
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
Click to expand...
So, you want the ability to, for example, scan while your antenna is pointed to the east and save those channels to your list. Then, you want to scan again with the antenna pointed to the west, and add some of those channels to the list also while retaining the original channels you added from the east?

How would that work? If you move the antenna and some of your channels are no longer are accessible, there's no point in having them on the list. Unless, you want to re-point the antenna each time you switched from an east channel to a west channel and vice versa.

I suppose you could have one of those remote controlled antenna mast like we had back in the 60's. In that case, I can see your point. I think DISH has just designed the system to fit what the vast majority of users actually have. I'm guessing your situation is a pretty narrow use case scenario. I'm just really happy to be able to have my locals without having to pay the $17 month for them.

I just wish DISH would fix the remote control issue that the last few software downloads screwed up. I use the 54 remote and my Hopper is jumping around from off to on, from live to recording.......................like a Kangaroo.
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
TFLEV
· posted in TFLEV

The New Toyota C-HR Is NOTHING Like the Old One..Especially In One Way!

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm0MPWaU9Es


Direct YouTube Link - The New Toyota C-HR Is NOTHING Like the Old One..Especially In One Way!
Read more
0 Replies · 7 views
Replies Reply Legacy View
osu1991
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
Read more
35 Replies · 485 views
Load Replies (35) Reply Legacy View
  • Sad
Reactions: AZ.
b4pjoe
b4pjoe
My wife and I use the same Medicare Advantage plan from United Healthcare. (Yes I have heard the horror stories about Medicare Advantage plans but we have used it for the last 5 years). We are both pretty healthy so it works for us. It costs $0.00 per month for both of us and it pays part of our Medicare part B premium. Next year it will be paying $170 per month of the $220 monthly part B premium for both of us. We also each get $90 per quarter to use on OTC products. $0.00 copay for Dr. visits and $55 copay for specialists. Includes dental and hearing coverage. Never have had an issue with it although I don't really use mine other than for the dental, Part B payments and the OTC benefit as I am a veteran and use the VA for all of my medical needs. I just had a kidney that had a cancer mass removed last month and they allowed me to use a non VA surgeon at a non VA hospital through the VA Community Care program. For all of the doctors visits, exams, tests, surgery, hospital stay, meds etc…was around $60,000 and the the VA paid for it entirely. I did have to pay $16 for the Oxycodone pain pills when I left the hospital that I got from my local CVS instead of waiting for a week for the VA to ship them to me from the VA pharmacy.
Read more
Reply
meStevo
meStevo
They're pushing our high deductible plan pretty hard at work, including a couple thousand to seed a HSA. Covering my wife and 4 kids though that feels like a mistake and I'd rather the peace of mind and the potential higher cost via the PPO plan payroll deductions.
Read more
Reply
dishstaller
dishstaller
b4pjoe said:
$0.00 copay for Dr. visits
Click to expand...
And THAT is one of the big issues causing a lot of the problems. If the minimum copay for Dr. visits was at least $100 then a LOT of folks would opt out of those visits. If it cost the individual nothing then why should they care. All of my older family members are constantly going to doctor visits.....to them it is an adventure.....an outing that allows them a reason to go out to eat at a restaurant. IF they had to pay one cent out of their own pockets a lot of that crap would stop asap.

Sorry...rant off.
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: reubenray
meStevo
meStevo
dishstaller said:
And THAT is one of the big issues causing a lot of the problems. If the minimum copay for Dr. visits was at least $100 then a LOT of folks would opt out of those visits. If it cost the individual nothing then why should they care. All of my older family members are constantly going to doctor visits.....to them it is an adventure.....an outing that allows them a reason to go out to eat at a restaurant. IF they had to pay one cent out of their own pockets a lot of that crap would stop asap.

Sorry...rant off.
Click to expand...

You're not wrong that some people treat free visits like a social outing. But it has to be a balance. Put a $100 barrier on a doctor visit and people don't just skip the pointless ones, they skip the important ones too. Then the stuff that would've been a cheap catch at a checkup shows up later in the ER, sicker and way more expensive. The shift we need is from sick care to actual healthcare.
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: osu1991, b4pjoe, Foxbat and 1 other person
b4pjoe
b4pjoe
dishstaller said:
And THAT is one of the big issues causing a lot of the problems. If the minimum copay for Dr. visits was at least $100 then a LOT of folks would opt out of those visits.
Click to expand...
And I wonder how many people that can't afford $100 die instead of going to the doctor and getting something taken care of before it gets much worse and more expensive?
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: osu1991
R
reubenray
dishstaller said:
And THAT is one of the big issues causing a lot of the problems. If the minimum copay for Dr. visits was at least $100 then a LOT of folks would opt out of those visits. If it cost the individual nothing then why should they care. All of my older family members are constantly going to doctor visits.....to them it is an adventure.....an outing that allows them a reason to go out to eat at a restaurant. IF they had to pay one cent out of their own pockets a lot of that crap would stop asap.

Sorry...rant off.
Click to expand...
My Brother and his wife are like this. They go to the Doctor for everything. They have a great insurance plan where they pay nothing, plus they use the excuse to go out to eat. I better be sick for multiple days before I go to a Doctor.
Read more
Reply
View all replies (35)
Scott Greczkowski
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
Read more
68702 Replies · 2682696 views
Load Replies (68702) Reply Legacy View
  • Like
Reactions: c-spand
long_time_Dish
long_time_Dish
Hot Child In The City - Nick Gilder
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: ClarkGable and dishstaller
dishstaller
dishstaller
In The Wee Small Hours of the Morning - Carly Simon
Read more
Reply
long_time_Dish
long_time_Dish
Sometime In The Morning - The Monkees
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: ClarkGable
H
hwkn
Touch Me IN THE MORNING-Diana Ross
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: ClarkGable
ClarkGable
ClarkGable
Touch Me - The Doors
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: gms49ers
View all replies (68702)
R
reubenray
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets

New Laptop?

After having continuing trouble with my eight+ year old Dell Inspiron laptop I am looking to hopefully catch a good deal on new one. My options to buy is Costco and Sam's Club. It seems like a lot of new laptops are 2 in 1 which I do not need. I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus. The keyboard would need to lighted also. I don't game any. It would have to be Windows instead of and not Mac. The brands I see the most are Asus, Dell and HP. My two last laptops has been Dell's. Of these brands are there any standouts over the other brands. My budget (hopefully) is $600+-. Also while researching I noticed that do not have ethernet ports.
Read more
9 Replies · 170 views
Load Replies (9) Reply Legacy View
EarDemon
EarDemon
Why not do a CTO directly through the manufacture? Get exactly what you want. Plus It's quite common to find 10%% (or higher) discount codes for Dell and HP.

Backlit keyboards are pretty much standard, and in the constant effort to try to make devices and thin and dainty as possible ethernet ports are becoming rarer, if not a normal ethernet port, you may be able to find a laptop with drop-jaw style one.
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: Foxbat
TRG
arlo
arlo
Can't really help with an exact set of suggestions. I can say that if you have a set budget. And $600 these days wont get you much. One thing I can say is check out Dell Refurbished.
I've suggested and even configured, ordered a few for friends who were a bit iffy in deciding what they needed and wanted.
Refurbished doesn't mean that they came back defective and were repaired. Companies and organizations who order quantities of the same computers often cancel or modify their requirements.
Dell builds usually on demand. Their direct refurbished line will be brand new, unused. Perhaps not exactly the "today" specifications of the latest-greatest. And you can get a nice pc for quite a bit less with full warranty.
Just a suggestion.
"I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus".

As far as Asus, HP goes. And others you may consider. I'd think $600 (new) would get you a laptop. A quality, long lasting one? Not so sure. Now. If you could get a $1000 lappy for $600. Good deal, don't you think?
Surf the web doesn't need a killer Nvidia graphics chip. Nor a pinnacle, top of the line Intel, AMD processor.
12-16 gigs of memory will get you by just fine.
I'm personally an Asus fan. Brands aside. The one thing is the batteries. We discussed that here someplace else.
I repair these critters. Batteries. Cheap laptops have cheap batteries. Asus suggests that you don't keep the charger plugged in all of the time to make them last. Like you see on phones where 85% vs full charge is suggested to preserve battery life.
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: Foxbat and reubenray
harshness
harshness
EarDemon said:
Why not do a CTO directly through the manufacture?
Click to expand...
Because there are fewer economies of scale with custom products. Savings come from giant contracts with major retailers.

RAM and GPUs make buying a computer now financial suicide. In 2023, I bought two 16GB RAM modules for my lone Windows machine. The cost was under $100. Now that equivalent RAM goes for $260.

One can opt for an on-CPU GPU, but you can't opt out of RAM. While Microsoft goes on and on about Windows 11 eventually being happy with 8GB of RAM, we know how that always ends.
Read more
Reply
Foxbat
Foxbat
GB is the new MB (remember when Windows used to be happy with 8 MB of RAM?)

I had great experiences with Dell's Refurbished systems in the past. I ended up getting Business desktops instead of the Home PCs since they didn't come loaded with bloatware and the one Desktop I got for Mrs. Foxbat even had a license for MS Office Professional included.
Read more
Reply
arlo
arlo
arlo said:
Can't really help with an exact set of suggestions. I can say that if you have a set budget. And $600 these days wont get you much. One thing I can say is check out Dell Refurbished.
I've suggested and even configured, ordered a few for friends who were a bit iffy in deciding what they needed and wanted.
Refurbished doesn't mean that they came back defective and were repaired. Companies and organizations who order quantities of the same computers often cancel or modify their requirements.
Dell builds usually on demand. Their direct refurbished line will be brand new, unused. Perhaps not exactly the "today" specifications of the latest-greatest. And you can get a nice pc for quite a bit less with full warranty.
Just a suggestion.
"I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus".

As far as Asus, HP goes. And others you may consider. I'd think $600 (new) would get you a laptop. A quality, long lasting one? Not so sure. Now. If you could get a $1000 lappy for $600. Good deal, don't you think?
Surf the web doesn't need a killer Nvidia graphics chip. Nor a pinnacle, top of the line Intel, AMD processor.
12-16 gigs of memory will get you by just fine.
I'm personally an Asus fan. Brands aside. The one thing is the batteries. We discussed that here someplace else.
I repair these critters. Batteries. Cheap laptops have cheap batteries. Asus suggests that you don't keep the charger plugged in all of the time to make them last. Like you see on phones where 85% vs full charge is suggested to preserve battery life.
Click to expand...
Just an edit. I did look on Dell's refurb site. To me I didn't really see anything approaching the six-hundred dollar range that I'd even consider owning. That's me though. Marginally in the $700 range.
Upwards of $1000, sure. Me? I'd save up a little more. I think their warranty is 100 days. Not that you'll need it. Square Trade is a viable option too.
The other guys replies after my first post here are viable. All I can say is that my friends and folks who chose refurbished over new have been entirely happy.

Just beware of cheap. It might just bite you. We do have tariffs now since when you bought your lappy 8 years ago.

Harshness' comment of on-cpu gpu. Intel Integrated Graphics is usually accompanied with and Nvidia gpu also.
Low power drain, good graphics and when needed, the Nvidia kicks in.


2 in 1 goes along with touch screen. Fold the display over and use it as a tablet. They go hand in hand. The keyboard shuts off. Normally open, the touch screen works as is should. I never use the touch screen when opened normally on mine. Kind of clumsy. In tablet configuration, does as it should.
Read more
Reply
View all replies (9)
brittanygarden
brittanygarden
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Are you experiencing an issue with your 3rd party remote since the newest Hopper update?

Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.

If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.

Thanks!
Brittany
Read more
26 Replies · 1135 views
Load Replies (26) Reply Legacy View
  • Like
Reactions: That American Girl, Foxbat, RTCDude and 5 others
bookworm370
bookworm370
I have a solution that is guaranteed to work.
All Hopper developers are required to turn in their RF Hopper remotes and use only IR remotes.

I guarantee you that the bug will be fixed in two days!
Try it; it will work! They will work 24 hours a day to fix it when the WAF goes into the toilet!
Read more
Reply
  • Like
  • Wow
  • Haha
Reactions: david_jr, navychop, long_time_Dish and 4 others
GRB1959
GRB1959
bookworm370 said:
I have a solution that is guaranteed to work.
All Hopper developers are required to turn in their RF Hopper remotes and use only IR remotes.

I guarantee you that the bug will be fixed in two days!
Try it; it will work! They will work 24 hours a day to fix it when the WAF goes into the toilet!
Click to expand...
Excellent suggestion.
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: bookworm370, long_time_Dish, Almighty1 and 1 other person
bookworm370
bookworm370
GRB1959 said:
Excellent suggestion.
Click to expand...
Yea, I've only been a CIO for the last 30 years! :)
Trust me, when something important breaks, they get to own it!
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: Almighty1 and charlesrshell
A
Astroman3427
Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July.
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: long_time_Dish, GRB1959 and charlesrshell
long_time_Dish
long_time_Dish
Astroman3427 said:
Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July. <-----|
Click to expand...
Absolutely!!!---------------------------------------------|
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
R
reubenray
Astroman3427 said:
Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July.
Click to expand...
I got 713 a few days ago and nothing has changed concerning the IR/RF remote issues.
Read more
Reply
  • Sad
  • Like
Reactions: long_time_Dish and charlesrshell
long_time_Dish
long_time_Dish
My Hopper 3 updated itself to H713 last week and the IR issue is worse now. On H711, I could be on an SD channel for several hours and the IR side of my H3 would still be responsive without my having to tap the View button on my Pronto Pro every 15 minutes. Now, if I stay even on an SD channel without tapping the View button at least once an hour, it becomes unresponsive to my Pronto Pro without tapping the View button at least 5-20 times, just like on the HD and 4K channels. So, H713 actually made the issue worse. :(

brittanygarden
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
View all replies (26)
T
techristian
· posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support

AMIKO  Anyone watching IPTV on Amiko 4k s52 UHD ?

Anyone watching IPTV on Amiko 4k s52 UHD ?

I put a bunch of *.m3u files in the root of my USB KEY but Amiko won't try to play them?

No INSTRUCTIONS for this.

Dan
Read more
0 Replies · 14 views
Replies Reply Legacy View
dishstaller
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club

Don't mess with Mama's baby....

Dang female lions don't mess around when it comes to their kiddos....aka whelps.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Vvefv5xW77s?feature=share
Read more
0 Replies · 46 views
Replies Reply Legacy View
  • Wow
Reactions: NYDutch
TheForce
TheForce
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
Read more
139 Replies · 2075 views
Load Replies (139) Reply Legacy View
harshness
harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
Read more
Reply
comfortably_numb
comfortably_numb
harshness said:
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
Click to expand...

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: slow_poke_pete
S
S
slow_poke_pete
comfortably_numb said:
Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
Click to expand...
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
Read more
Reply
Foxbat
Foxbat
slow_poke_pete said:
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
Click to expand...
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.
Read more
Reply
  • Like
Reactions: slow_poke_pete and comfortably_numb
S
View all replies (139)
Load More
Top
Back