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Scott Greczkowski
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SIRIUS XM Radio Reports Second Quarter 2009 Results

- Adjusted Income from Operations of $132 Million - An Improvement of $193 Million Year Over Year

- Pro Forma Total Revenue of $608 Million, Up 1%

- EPS Excluding Charges ($0.01) vs. ($0.06) Year Over Year, In-line with Wall Street Estimates

- Company Increases Full-year Guidance for Adjusted Income from Operations to Over $400 Million From Over $350 Million



NEW YORK, Aug. 6/PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- SIRIUS XM Radio (NASDAQ: SIRI) today announced second quarter 2009 financial and operating results, including $132 million in adjusted income from operations, marking the company's third consecutive quarter of positive adjusted income. The company also announced a 28% decrease in total cash operating expenses since the merger of SIRIUS and XM one year ago. SIRIUS XM also increased its full-year 2009 guidance for adjusted income from operations to over $400 million from over $350 million.

"Just one year ago, combined operations produced negative adjusted income from operations of $61 million," said Mel Karmazin, SIRIUS XM's CEO. "This year our revenue increase in the second quarter, paired with a $187 million expense reduction, drove an improvement of approximately $193 million in adjusted income from operations to $132 million in second quarter 2009. Based on these results we are increasing guidance again and expect to exceed over $400 million in adjusted income from operations during 2009. Growing our revenue in the face of broad declines in the advertising and automotive markets is a remarkable accomplishment, and we are well positioned for a rebound in auto sales."

Second quarter 2009 pro forma total revenue was $608 million, up 1% from second quarter 2008 pro forma total revenue of $601 million. Second quarter 2009 subscription revenue was $577 million, up 3% from the second quarter 2008 subscription revenue of $558 million. Subscriber acquisition cost (SAC) per gross subscriber addition was $57 in the second quarter 2009, an improvement of 20% over the $71 in pro forma SAC per gross subscriber addition in the second quarter 2008.

SIRIUS XM ended the second quarter 2009 with 18,413,435 total subscribers, a decrease of 1% from the second quarter 2008 pro forma total subscribers of 18,576,830 and a decrease of 185,999 from the first quarter 2009 subscribers of 18,599,434. Self-pay subscribers were 15,421,414 in second quarter 2009, virtually unchanged from first quarter 2009 self-pay subscribers of 15,436,410 and up 592,264, or 4%, from the 14,829,150 self-pay subscribers in the second quarter 2008. Promotional subscribers were 2,992,021 in second quarter 2009.

Monthly average revenue per subscriber (ARPU) was $10.66 in the second quarter 2009, up from $10.55 in the second quarter 2008. The pro forma self-pay monthly customer churn rate was 2.0% in the second quarter 2009 down from 2.2% in the first quarter 2009, and up from 1.7% in second quarter 2008 pro forma self-pay churn.

In the second quarter 2009, SIRIUS XM achieved positive pro forma adjusted income from operations of $132 million as compared to a pro forma loss from operations of ($61) million in the second quarter 2008. The second quarter 2009 US GAAP net loss was ($157) million, or ($0.04) per share, and includes $108 million, or ($0.03) per share, in net charges for the loss on the extinguishment of debt and credit facilities and a $24 million write-off, or ($.007) per share, of prepayments for future launch services attributable to the counterparty's bankruptcy filing. Absent these charges, the US GAAP net loss per share of ($0.01) was in line with Wall Street estimates. In the second quarter 2008 the US GAAP net loss was ($84) million, or ($0.06) per share. Second quarter 2009 free cash flow was $13 million compared to ($169) million of free cash flow in the second quarter 2008.

2009 OUTLOOK

SIRIUS XM now expects to achieve over $400 million in 2009 adjusted income from operations. This is an increase from the company's previous guidance of over $350 million in 2009 adjusted income from operations provided on May 7, 2009.

BALANCE SHEET IMPROVEMENTS

During the second quarter the company made improvements to its balance sheet including refinancing some of its debt at lower rates, extending maturities, and improving amortization schedules and covenants.

"These transactions have significantly improved the credit profile of the company, and we intend to be opportunistic in pursuing additional balance sheet improvements," said David Frear, SIRIUS XM's EVP and CFO.

Based upon the company's current plans, it has sufficient cash, cash equivalents, available borrowings under credit facilities and marketable securities to cover the company's estimated funding needs through cash flow breakeven, the point at which revenues are sufficient to fund expected operating expenses, capital expenditures, working capital requirements, interest payments and taxes. The company's projections are based on assumptions, which it believes are reasonable but contain uncertainties.

PRO FORMA RESULTS OF OPERATIONS

The discussion of operating results below is based upon pro forma comparisons as if the merger of SIRIUS and XM occurred on January 1, 2008 and excludes the effects of stock-based compensation and purchase accounting adjustments.

SECOND QUARTER 2009 VERSUS SECOND QUARTER 2008

For the second quarter of 2009, SIRIUS XM recognized total pro forma revenue of $608 million compared to $601 million for the second quarter 2008. This 1%, or $7 million, increase in revenue was driven by a 1% growth in weighted average subscribers from the second quarter 2008 as well as an increase in ARPU.

Total ARPU for the three months ended June 30, 2009 was $10.66, compared to $10.55 for the three months ended June 30, 2008. The increase was driven mainly by the sale of "Best of" programming, increased rates on the company's multi-subscription packages and revenues earned on the company's internet packages, partially offset by a decline in net advertising revenue per average subscriber.

In the second quarter 2009, the company achieved positive pro forma adjusted income from operations of $132 million, compared to an adjusted loss from operations of ($61) million for the second quarter of 2008 (refer to the reconciliation table of net loss to adjusted income (loss) from operations). The improvement was driven by the increase in total revenue of $7 million and a $187 million decrease, or 28%, in expenses included in adjusted income (loss) from operations.

Satellite and transmission costs decreased 27%, or $7 million, in the three months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008 due to reductions in maintenance costs, repeater lease expense, and personnel costs.

Programming and content costs decreased 14%, or $14 million, in the three months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008, mainly due to reductions in personnel and on-air talent costs as well as savings on certain content agreements.

Revenue share and royalties decreased by 5%, or $6 million, compared to the same period in 2008.

Customer service and billing costs remained relatively flat for the three months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008.

Cost of equipment decreased by 49%, or $8 million, in the three months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008 as a result of a decrease in the company's direct to customer sales and lower inventory write-downs.

Sales and marketing costs decreased 53%, or $55 million, and have decreased as a percentage of revenue to 8% from 17% in the three months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008. The decrease in Sales and marketing costs was due to reduced advertising and cooperative marketing spend, as well as, reductions to personnel costs and third party distribution support expenses.

Subscriber acquisition costs decreased 46%, or $70 million, and decreased as a percentage of revenue to 13% from 25% in the three months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008. SAC per gross addition declined by 20% to $57 from $71 in the year ago period. This improvement was driven by fewer OEM installations relative to gross subscriber additions, decreased production of certain radios, lower OEM subsidies and lower aftermarket inventory reserves as compared to the three months ended June 30, 2008. Subscriber acquisition costs also decreased as a result of the 35% decline in gross additions during the three months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the three months ended June 30, 2008.

General and administrative costs decreased 33%, or $22 million, mainly due to the absence of certain legal and regulatory charges incurred in 2008 and lower personnel costs.

Engineering, design and development costs decreased 35%, or $6 million, in the three months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008, due to lower costs associated with the manufacturing of radios, OEM tooling and manufacturing, and personnel.

Restructuring, impairments and related costs increased $27 million mainly due to a loss of $24 million on capitalized installment payments for the launch of a satellite, which are expected to provide no future benefits due to the counterparty's bankruptcy filing.

Other expenses increased 285%, or $147 million, in the three months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008 driven mainly by the loss on extinguishment of debt and credit facilities of $108 million, and an increase in interest expense of $53 million, offset by an increase of $13 million in gain on investments. The loss on the extinguishment of debt and credit facilities was incurred on the full repayment of XM's Amended and Restated Credit Agreement and its Second-Lien Credit Agreement. Interest expense increased due primarily to the issuance of XM's 13% Senior Notes due 2013 and the 7% Exchangeable Senior Subordinated Notes due 2014 in the third quarter of 2008.

SIX MONTHS ENDED JUNE 30, 2009 VERSUS SIX MONTHS ENDED JUNE 30, 2008

For the six months ended June 30, 2009, SIRIUS XM recognized total pro forma revenue of $1,213 million compared with $1,180 million for the six months ended June 30, 2008. This 3%, or $33 million, increase in revenue was primarily driven by an increase in subscriber revenue resulting primarily from a 4% growth in weighted average subscribers over the period as well as revenues from the sale of "Best of" programming, increased rates on the company's multi-subscription packages and revenues earned on the company's internet packages.

Total ARPU for the six months ended June 30, 2009 was $10.57, compared to $10.54 for the six months ended June 30, 2008. The increase was driven mainly by the sale of "Best of" programming, increased rates on the company's multi-subscription packages and revenues earned on its internet packages, partially offset by a decline in net advertising revenue per average subscriber.

The company's pro forma adjusted income from operations increased $372 million to $241 million for the six months ended June 30, 2009 from a loss of ($131) million for the six months ended June 30, 2008 (refer to the reconciliation table of net loss to adjusted income (loss) from operations). This increase was driven by a 3%, or $33 million, increase in revenue and a 26%, or $339 million, decrease in expenses included in adjusted income (loss) from operations.

Satellite and transmission costs decreased 25%, or $13 million, in the six months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008 due to reductions in maintenance costs, repeater lease expense, and personnel costs.

Programming and content costs decreased 12%, or $25 million, in the six months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008, due mainly to reductions in personnel and on-air talent costs as well as savings on certain content agreements.

Revenue share and royalties increased by 2%, or $4 million, while declining slightly as a percentage of revenue in the six months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008.

Customer service and billing costs remained relatively flat for the six months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008 due to scale efficiencies over a larger daily weighted average subscriber base.

Cost of equipment decreased by 50%, or $16 million, in the six months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008 as a result of a decrease in the company's direct to customer sales and lower inventory write-downs.

Sales and marketing costs decreased 46%, or $83 million, and decreased as a percentage of revenue to 8% from 15% in the six months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008 due to reduced advertising and cooperative marketing spend as well as reductions to personnel costs and third party distribution support expenses.

Subscriber acquisition costs decreased 47%, or $147 million, and decreased as a percentage of revenue to 14% from 26% in the six months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008. This decrease was driven by a 23% improvement in SAC, as adjusted, per gross addition due to fewer OEM installations relative to gross subscriber additions, decreased production of certain radios, lower OEM subsidies and lower aftermarket inventory reserves in the six months ended June 30, 2009 as compared to the six months ended June 30, 2008. Subscriber acquisition costs also decreased as a result of the 35% decline in gross additions during the six months ended June 30, 2009.

General and administrative costs decreased 32%, or $45 million, mainly due to the absence of certain legal and regulatory charges incurred in 2008 and lower personnel costs.

Engineering, design and development costs decreased 42%, or $13 million, in the six months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008, due to lower costs associated with the manufacturing of radios, OEM tooling and manufacturing, and personnel.

Restructuring, impairments and related costs increased $28 million mainly due to a loss of $24 million on capitalized installment payments, which are expected to provide no future benefits due to the counterparty's bankruptcy filing, for the launch of a satellite.

Other expenses increased 190%, or $194 million, in the six months ended June 30, 2009 compared to the same period in 2008 driven mainly by the loss on extinguishment of debt and credit facilities of $126 million, and an increase in interest expense of $79 million, offset by an increase of $9 million in gain on investments. The loss on the extinguishment of debt and credit facilities was incurred on the full repayment of XM's Amended and Restated Credit Agreement and its Second-Lien Credit Agreement. Interest expense increased due primarily to the issuance of XM's 13% Senior Notes due 2013 and the 7% Exchangeable Senior Subordinated Notes due 2014 in the third quarter of 2008.


SOURCE SIRIUS XM Radio
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Scott Greczkowski
I canceled one of mine as well, I had Sirius and XM in my truck and since the channel consolidation there was no reason to have both. Now I just have the stock XM built into my truck which sounds better then Sirius which used a FM modulator.
digiblur
I canceled one of mine as well, I had Sirius and XM in my truck and since the channel consolidation there was no reason to have both. Now I just have the stock XM built into my truck which sounds better then Sirius which used a FM modulator.

The modulators suck big time since they neutered them. You'd have to live on the moon to use the those. I have an older unit and the modulator works pretty decent. But I will have to say on the new unit I put in my girl's car, I put one of those FM injectors that you plug into the Sirius and then put between your car radio and antenna. I was very impressed with it! I even set it to a high power station in the area and it blocked it right out.
skottey
The modulators suck big time since they neutered them. You'd have to live on the moon to use the those. I have an older unit and the modulator works pretty decent. But I will have to say on the new unit I put in my girl's car, I put one of those FM injectors that you plug into the Sirius and then put between your car radio and antenna. I was very impressed with it! I even set it to a high power station in the area and it blocked it right out.

I am using the older FM method. Could that be my problem? What do you mean? What did they do to neuter it? I noticed I have to find a weaker channel to broadcast to but over the last three weeks I have had drop outs. But my radio says no signal so it couldn't be that. But that is just another annoying problem you speak of. From time to time I have change FM frequencies if I go 20 miles from home. They must have neutered it. But I have a more serious problem of drop outs. It is cutting out all the time.
digiblur
I am using the older FM method. Could that be my problem? What do you mean? What did they do to neuter it? I noticed I have to find a weaker channel to broadcast to but over the last three weeks I have had drop outs. But my radio says no signal so it couldn't be that. But that is just another annoying problem you speak of. From time to time I have change FM frequencies if I go 20 miles from home. They must have neutered it. But I have a more serious problem of drop outs. It is cutting out all the time.

Do you not have your antenna in a good spot on your vehicle's roof? I don't have a repeater in my area (check signal strength in settings, it will show SAT and TER. I always have zero on TER). Only dropouts I get is when I'm under an overpass or at the gas station. Still impressed when I go to a buddy's house when I'm on his road that is about 4 or 5 miles of winding country road with trees covering the entire thing. Never hear a drop out on that road.

They neutered the FM transmitter power. The FM inserted (they call it something else) is an awesome investment! Not hard to install yourself. In my vehicle I have an AUX input on the front of my radio so I don't need to have the FM transmitter on.
skottey
Do you not have your antenna in a good spot on your vehicle's roof? I don't have a repeater in my area (check signal strength in settings, it will show SAT and TER. I always have zero on TER). Only dropouts I get is when I'm under an overpass or at the gas station. Still impressed when I go to a buddy's house when I'm on his road that is about 4 or 5 miles of winding country road with trees covering the entire thing. Never hear a drop out on that road.

They neutered the FM transmitter power. The FM inserted (they call it something else) is an awesome investment! Not hard to install yourself. In my vehicle I have an AUX input on the front of my radio so I don't need to have the FM transmitter on.

Is that the Sureconnect they are trying to sell me?

My antenna is in a good place and hasn't moved in 2 years since I bought the Durango. But it cuts out in my wife's car too and so does her radio. Other locals say they have problems too (Tampa metro). I didn't know about the signal strength in the settings. I will check it out and see.

I used to only get dropouts in the bank drive-thru. Now I get them all over the open road in places I drive every day.
Rangers484
Is that the Sureconnect they are trying to sell me?

My antenna is in a good place and hasn't moved in 2 years since I bought the Durango. But it cuts out in my wife's car too and so does her radio. Other locals say they have problems too (Tampa metro). I didn't know about the signal strength in the settings. I will check it out and see.

I used to only get dropouts in the bank drive-thru. Now I get them all over the open road in places I drive every day.

I have one of my radios hooked directly through the aux input on my car radio and another using the fm antenna connector. Both have had increased drop outs lately.

It has gotten so bad on one stretch of road lately that I have begun to turn it off preemptively.

Something is up with the power of the sats (I have the XM units) lately. It is definitely not the xm units.
skottey
I have one of my radios hooked directly through the aux input on my car radio and another using the fm antenna connector. Both have had increased drop outs lately.

It has gotten so bad on one stretch of road lately that I have begun to turn it off preemptively.

Something is up with the power of the sats (I have the XM units) lately. It is definitely not the xm units.

Thanks.... they just will not admit to it. It is good to hear other people confirming this.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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The Wind Cries Mary - Jimi Hendrix
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Lonely Wind - Kansas
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ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ewindowman
Correct me if I'm wrong but Dish borrowed lots of money to start a wireless company that was most likely doomed from the beginning. They bought spectrum at any cost to acquire enough bandwidth to achieve their goal. They signed leases and bought equipment and borrowed more money. They held onto the spectrum as long as possible. They then sold most of it to different companies and made a lot of money. Then they started to screw the companies that were installing and leasing the equipment and cell towers. Now they are going to claim bankruptcy under the Dish Network part of Echo Star while they have billions of dollars. So Dish basically took everyone's money that was involved in the financial part of this transaction made a huge profit is screwing everyone over from the banks to the little guy working on the towers and infrastructure.
Bruce
News about the tower's dispute-

comfortably_numb
News about the tower's dispute-


So does this mean the churches and businesses that Dish owes back payments to are going to get paid now?
nelson61
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They note that the Dish Wireless radios at issue support the 2GHz and 800MHz spectrum SpaceX is acquiring from EchoStar and Grain.

"Buying compatible equipment already installed on towers could give SpaceX a head start on its wireless terrestrial network build and throw a big bucket of cold water on Verizon's four-to-six-year timeline and $300-$500 billion estimate for SpaceX's buildout," said the analysts."
S
Correct me if I'm wrong but Dish borrowed lots of money to start a wireless company that was most likely doomed from the beginning. They bought spectrum at any cost to acquire enough bandwidth to achieve their goal. They signed leases and bought equipment and borrowed more money. They held onto the spectrum as long as possible. They then sold most of it to different companies and made a lot of money. Then they started to screw the companies that were installing and leasing the equipment and cell towers. Now they are going to claim bankruptcy under the Dish Network part of Echo Star while they have billions of dollars. So Dish basically took everyone's money that was involved in the financial part of this transaction made a huge profit is screwing everyone over from the banks to the little guy working on the towers and infrastructure.
i heard charlie went to dubai begging for money. but he didn't get none... that should have raised red flags.
dishstaller
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This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

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Juan
Where would you spend 6.3 billion in crypto without anyone noticing?..In today's digital world most countries are watching purchases over 10k
dishstaller
Follow up to the story. Binance says it has "plugged" 90% of the $6.3 billion with its own cash. Well, that leaves 10% or $630 million that is "unplugged". Are those folks just out of luck?

dishstaller
Where would you spend 6.3 billion in crypto without anyone noticing?
They say it was North Korea so they'll probably just use it to buy things they need....oil, food, etc from nations and entities who don't care where the money comes from and since it is BTC...it can be spent anywhere with no blowback.
Juan
They say it was North Korea so they'll probably just use it to buy things they need....oil, food, etc from nations and entities who don't care where the money comes from and since it is BTC...it can be spent anywhere with no blowback.
Someone using AI would be able to see the purchase...plus if you were to buy a couple billion barrels of oil or any other commodity..someone would notice..or if you bought your own country
T
How does it have such billions simply "on hand" to replace stolen billions?
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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6:43p Central was dumped off the site, then when I got back on could not reply to post. Down for several minutes.
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6:43p Central was dumped off the site, then when I got back on could not reply to post. Down for several minutes.
Yeah... that was me...

I did another security update and it required me to reboot the server.

I also did a patch for something else and accidently put two ;'s in the config file so when the server rebooted it wouldn't restart a service because of the extra ; in the config file.

And of course as I did it my step dad called me slowing me down in figuring it out.

That was a Scott mistake. Sorry about that.
navychop
OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!

Aww- nevermind.

;)
S
been blazing fast here :)
Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
Jimbo
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
No, I was actually referring to outside of the Top 8, but should have been Top 12 ...

I guess I should have looked at the bracket from last year first ...

I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
Ronnie-
I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Jimbo
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

They are trying to make this Basketball and its a far cry from the way that is played.

How long till they go to 32 teams ? Then they will say, well, the NFL is 32 teams, we can make more money that way .... except the NFL is 32 teams, that are a set number of teams and divisions, you don't have that in College ... oh but they will try.

They would have to choose what teams they would want in and thats it.
Hopefully that NEVER happens.

I can see the NCAA going away and the CFP taking that portion over and a Collective Bargaining agreement coming in the not to distant future.
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Ronnie-
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time
Yes. As shown in a few posts now.


You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

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But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
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Jimbo
Yes. As shown in a few posts now.



But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
No, no ... if you want to make the playoffs, you want to Win it ... If you want to Win it, you need to Win 4-5 games in a row against Top 10 teams for the most part, theres a Possibility you'd play someone out side of the Top 10, but not much.

The Playoffs is a 4-5 game Win or Go Home.
osu1991
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
Jimbo
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
I hate playing in LA ... :oldmad
Buckeyes had 2 weeks off and came out and looked absolutely terrible ... broke in a new Freshman Qb, but that wasn't the worst part ... undiscipline play, at last count they had 10 penalties.
Freshman in the end of the game trying to play catch up, had a lot of Over throws ... Bucks lose ...

#1 Miami struggled but pulled away in the end beating North Carolina by 3 ...

Tuesday the CFP brings out thier Playoff Top 12 again ... Buckeyes should drop from #2 to about #22 (they won't) had they had thier Starting QB, it would have been a different game ...

They could lose the rest of thier games at this point.
osu1991
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:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
harshness
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
That's not who it is for. The cut is for those who won't work (though you typically had to prove that you couldn't work to get it in the first place).
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Foxbat
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
osu1991
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
I didn't start it as a political statement and have no interest in the political BS of this country. Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays. This was just my rant over the outrageous increase in my premiums and how unaffordable healthcare is becoming to the average person here.

admin can close or delete it if they don't want here.
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Bobby
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
There are no dues to be paid to be in the Pit. You just have to use the password which is clearly shown when you try to log in to it.
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dishstaller
Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays.

Yes.....they do. Which is why I am very careful when at a customer's house these days....you NEVER know what is going to set someone off. Polite dialog is a thing of the past.....which is why I like my dog so much :)
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dishdude
That's not who it is for. The cut is for those who won't work (though you typically had to prove that you couldn't work to get it in the first place).

Which makes zero sense. If they are healthy and able to work but won't, they aren't using any health resources up.
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navychop
Until a runaway pickle truck hits them.
dishdude
Until a runaway pickle truck hits them.

I'm sure Vlasic has good insurance!
Scott Greczkowski
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Some of the channels start next week.

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comfortably_numb
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
TRG
TRG
It's not even Halloween yet.
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Scott Greczkowski
I like the Jimmy Fallon channel. This will be its third year. I like that it's all fresh each year. Also fun when he pops on live from time to time.
Don in CT
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
So it's a drunk father telling his in-laws to leave.
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
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I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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dishstaller
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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Scott Greczkowski
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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Scott Greczkowski
Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
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(((Garyd)))
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
Your old link triggered my Bitdefender today.
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(((Garyd)))
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
I had a direct link to ]Political, thought provoking and debatable but now have to go in the main section or I get a warning on my Bitdefender
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dishstaller
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
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Scott Greczkowski
I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
Its an automated bot. Explained it to you in the PM.
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osu1991
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
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osu1991

GM said its next-generation vehicle architecture will provide 40 times more computing power and 30 percent less wiring than before and will expand from the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ to its high-volume SUVs, trucks, crossovers, and fourth-generation EVs, which will be powered by lithium manganese-rich (LMR) prismatic batteries

Despite the politicization and perceived consumer pivot away from EVs in America, GM needs to remain globally competitive, so it's doubling down on its fourth generation EVs, with energy-dense, cheaper-to-manufacture LMR batteries, more efficient motors, and state-of-the-art centralized computing architecture. With a stated goal of cutting the traditional four- to five-year concept-to-production time in half, GM is clearly challenging the concept of "China speed," which in the Chinese automotive industry can be as quick as 18 months from design to start of production. In the AI space, GM is smartly collapsing all of its marque-specific apps under the familiar OnStar brand, while providing more features—both on the phone and in the car—than it ever has before.
harshness
Let's tell it like it is. GM's EV efforts are coming from SAIC. The brain trust is almost entirely in China, and GM is hanging off of SAIC's shirt tails.

It is a lot like asserting that the Corvette was designed by Chevrolet when most of it came from the Cadillac CTS-V.
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T

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
That's how Ford did it- vertical integration. He even set up a rubber plantation in S. America
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