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It is time...

1. The Marlins brought a billy goat onto the field during or before a game against the Cubs last week? What??? Was this their idea of a joke?

2. Yankees/Red Sox again. Lots of exciting action surrounded by such a painfully slow game. Joba and Smoltz both worked at a snail's pace, and were out of there before long. The game dragged on and on. 12 walks from Yankee pitchers...and they won. Jeez. And Jason Varitek, with his 4,000 trips to the mound every inning, and Bernie Williams, with his stepping out of the box for five minutes between every pitch, didn't even play.

3. What happened to all of those amazing arms the Red Sox had coming out of the bullpen only a short while ago? It seemed like every guy threw 100 mph. Billy Traber? I'm sure we'll see their 'A' bullpen tonight...if they're even needed.

4. The Sox resembled the Yankees last night. And versa vice. An old pitcher making a lot of money who underperformed, their big hitters not coming up big when it counted, numerous opportunities squandered, bad long relief, and their reigning MVP getting plunked in the eight inning of a game that is out of hand. Seems like the Yankee recipe of the last few years.

5. Goodness, Pedroia is a little guy. The torque he gets out of that little body is amazing.

6. Has Big Papi said anything about the steroid issue?

7. Mark Shapiro would be a good GM for the Mets.

8. The only thing keeping the Pirates from being the most inept team in baseball is the Expos/Nationals franchise. But the Pirates are coming up fast on the outside. All of the prospects they've traded for the last couple of years will be traded away as soon as they start producing in the major leagues...for more prospects. What a shame for such a storied franchise.

9. Early NBA musings...Shaq will not help the Cavs as much as Drew Carey thinks, but the Cavs really don't need much help. Garnett is still the key in the east, though. The Spurs did the most to help themselves...Jefferson and McDyess are perfect complimentary players, but only if the big three stay healthy. The Heat never did bring anyone to help Wade, did they? Watch out for the Wizards, they could be playoff contenders this year. You heard it hear first.

10. Here are some great movies to check out...The Talented Mr Ripley...excellent, with Matt Damon. Into the Wild...I didn't want it to end. Gone Baby Gone...directed by Ben Affleck, incredibly tense and emotional. You've probably seen it, but I just watched Shawshank Redemption...very good. I love movies where you are never sure what is going to happen next, and those all qualify.

11. Wipeout is awesome. Just awesome. One of the funniest shows on television. 'Good night, and big balls'. :D

12. Has Entourage been slow moving or what? My goodness. I told my boyfriend how great it was, and after watching the first two episodes this season, he's not convinced.

13. Wednesday night watching the Yankees play at Toronto, there are two guys dressed as the umpire sitting in the first row behind home plate...mask and everything. When the Yankees are up they mimic everything the umpire does...his strike calls, getting a new ball out of his pocket after a foul ball, etc. It was hysterical. I only saw the ninth inning, and by that time they had the umpire down perfectly. It looked like three perfectly coreographed umpires!

14. No more Paula Abdul on American Idol? Wow. I was so happy for her journey. :rolleyes:

15. I am personally not ready for some football. You see a preseason game like Steelers-Patriots ready to start, and you're psyched. But then the first string plays two series, and 20 minutes later you're watching guys play who you will hopefully never see in the regular season. And there are still three and a half quarters to go.

16. I met the real life Rudy! He said after the offense went against the coaches orders and scored a touchdown, so they could kick off and Rudy would get a chance to go out on the field, the guy who came up to him and said 'We did this for you' was the guy on the team who hated him most.

17. He also said he hears the Hobbit dude walks through airports and everyone yells 'Rudy' at him, while he walks through airports without quite so much fanfare.

18. I'm already wary of the upcoming Ohio State-USC game. People will say it's still early in Terrelle Pryor's career, and they're right. But that won't make a blowout loss at the horseshoe feel any better. At what point does Pryor stop being Nikolai Zherdev (six years in the NHL and people still talk about his wonderful potential), and start leading us to big national victories? Hopefully that day.

19. Don't tell anyone, but the Manasquan inlet is the best place to go at the Jersey shore. Just across the inlet from hustling Point Pleasant, with all of it's rides, games, and restaurants on the boardwalk. Down the road from beautiful Belmar, which packs in the college crowd and those reliving their college days. Up the road from Seaside Heights, which is like Point Pleasant on steroids. Manasquan inlet has a gorgeous walkway where you can watch the boats heading into and out of the ocean, a rock jetty that goes so far into the sea that at night you feel like you're way out in the ocean when you're at the end of it, just a few seafood and ice cream shops in case you need something, and the most gorgeous sunsets on the east coast over the inner harbor.

20. And there are no bennies! I'm a Jersey shore girl, and if you're from the Jersey shore, you appreciate what that means. No bennies is a very good thing...;)


Sandra
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salsadancer7
It is time...

1. The Marlins brought a billy goat onto the field during or before a game against the Cubs last week? What??? Was this their idea of a joke? Apparently, it backfired because they were just swept by the Nationals!

6. Has Big Papi said anything about the steroid issue? Supposedly, he is set to say something this week...WHAT can he possibly say? The ONLY reason people are not RIPPING him as bad as Manny is because they LIKE Big Pappi.

8. The only thing keeping the Pirates from being the most inept team in baseball is the Expos/Nationals franchise. But the Pirates are coming up fast on the outside. All of the prospects they've traded for the last couple of years will be traded away as soon as they start producing in the major leagues...for more prospects. What a shame for such a storied franchise. I don't know if I would say inept....they just do not have the money to keep their good players. HOW is that inept? Reality is, they cannot compete.

9. Early NBA musings...Shaq will not help the Cavs as much as Drew Carey thinks, but the Cavs really don't need much help. Garnett is still the key in the east, though. The Spurs did the most to help themselves...Jefferson and McDyess are perfect complimentary players, but only if the big three stay healthy. The Heat never did bring anyone to help Wade, did they? Watch out for the Wizards, they could be playoff contenders this year. You heard it hear first. Heat never could knock down the 1st domino, and that was Odom....IF he would have came down, Boozer was next. As it played out, Odom played Reilly for more money and that's exactly what happened.....can you say what comes around, goes around for trading Odom in the 1st place?:(

11. Wipeout is awesome. Just awesome. One of the funniest shows on television. 'Good night, and big balls'. :D My son LOVES this show!! He counts the days when it comes on again! He also LOVED "I survived a Japanese game show".

12. Has Entourage been slow moving or what? My goodness. I told my boyfriend how great it was, and after watching the first two episodes this season, he's not convinced. The show has turned into "Friends" with a little swearing and some brief nudity. It's awful!

18. I'm already wary of the upcoming Ohio State-USC game. People will say it's still early in Terrelle Pryor's career, and they're right. But that won't make a blowout loss at the horseshoe feel any better. At what point does Pryor stop being Nikolai Zherdev (six years in the NHL and people still talk about his wonderful potential), and start leading us to big national victories? Hopefully that day. Try starting the season with AT FSU, Georgia Tech, AT VaTech and Oklahoma...

Sandra

I still love what Anders posted about bennies...too damn funny and a ton of memories from living up in the northeast.
anders5189
I still love what Anders posted about bennies...too damn funny and a ton of memories from living up in the northeast.
I'll be here all week. :D And you're right about Entourage. If I wanted to watch stories about Turtle and his girlfriend and Ari's family I'd watch Lifetime. :eek:
salsadancer7
I'll be here all week. :D And you're right about Entourage. If I wanted to watch stories about Turtle and his girlfriend and Ari's family I'd watch Lifetime. :eek:

Truth be told....the Ari character was the ONLY reason I ever watched. He is the funniest character in a sitcom since George Costanza....at least IMHO.
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Truth be told....the Ari character was the ONLY reason I ever watched. He is the funniest character in a sitcom since George Costanza....at least IMHO.

I love Ari too.

Other funny characters:

Sheldon (Big Bang Theory)
Tommy Gavin (Rescue Me)
The 'One-Up' Lady (Saturday Night Live)
Hank Moody (Californication)
Liz Lemon & Jack Donaghy (30 Rock)

Matt Saracen from Friday Night Lights gets his own category...funny, heart warming, and so very real. My favorite character on television! Coach Taylor is also a great character, although funny he's not. ;)


Sandra
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8. The only thing keeping the Pirates from being the most inept team in baseball is the Expos/Nationals franchise. But the Pirates are coming up fast on the outside. All of the prospects they've traded for the last couple of years will be traded away as soon as they start producing in the major leagues...for more prospects. What a shame for such a storied franchise.
The Pirates are worse. At least Washington has fimsished .500 or better this decade!

9. Early NBA musings...Shaq will not help the Cavs as much as Drew Carey thinks, but the Cavs really don't need much help. Garnett is still the key in the east, though. The Spurs did the most to help themselves...Jefferson and McDyess are perfect complimentary players, but only if the big three stay healthy. The Heat never did bring anyone to help Wade, did they? Watch out for the Wizards, they could be playoff contenders this year. You heard it hear first.
And what about your Knickerbockers?

15. I am personally not ready for some football. You see a preseason game like Steelers-Patriots ready to start, and you're psyched. But then the first string plays two series, and 20 minutes later you're watching guys play who you will hopefully never see in the regular season. And there are still three and a half quarters to go.
And yet the regular roster players have no problem playing Spring Training baseball.

18. I'm already wary of the upcoming Ohio State-USC game. People will say it's still early in Terrelle Pryor's career, and they're right. But that won't make a blowout loss at the horseshoe feel any better. At what point does Pryor stop being Nikolai Zherdev (six years in the NHL and people still talk about his wonderful potential), and start leading us to big national victories? Hopefully that day.
I don't think USC will win that game. They lost Sanchez and most of their defense, have two unproven QB's, and an inconsistent offense. Plus, after last year, OSU will be out for blood.
hancox
Sandra -

Very jealous that you met Rudy. Easily one of my top sports movies ever - it's great.
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1 - I'm tired of the whole "Cubs are cursed" deal. The Cubs were run by an inept Wrigley family for years, and then morphed by the Tribune Company into this loveable loser deal on TV and a large outdoor yuppie bar at the live gate. They are not cursed.

6 - Didn't he forget how to speak English, like Sosa did. The next time somebody pulls that, I would like some Spanish speaking person just ask them the same questions.

8 - The Pirates do not have the best management, but they are not inept. They are just trying to survive in the broken Selig economic system.

14 - AI : OVER. Next fad please.

15 - Exhibition NFL is the biggest scam in the world. They take people who will not be playing in September, dress them in uniforms of NFL teams, and have them play meaningless games in baseball season. And people watch it on TV, buy tickets for it, and even gamble on it like it was real.
satjay
9.18. I'm already wary of the upcoming Ohio State-USC game. People will say it's still early in Terrelle Pryor's career, and they're right. But that won't make a blowout loss at the horseshoe feel any better. At what point does Pryor stop being Nikolai Zherdev (six years in the NHL and people still talk about his wonderful potential), and start leading us to big national victories? Hopefully that day.

As a Michigan Fan hopefully never :), but in all seriousness he had a nice start last year had some freshman moments, it will be intresting to see year two this year!!
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Bruce
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I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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My 26 year old son doesn't want to use traditional sat or cable now and only uses streaming apps and he is not on them as much as we were with satellite, using it for back ground noise while we do other things around the house. He doesn't even care about antenna ota TV either. Mind you he had a satellite receiver in his room since he was born and didn't want one after he got to be a teenager. So I took it out. I mainly used it to load up kid shows on the Dvr , so he would be entertained while I was doing stuff around the house when he was a baby and toddler. So Gen Z will not care one bit about live TV services going the way of the Dodo bird.
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Bruce
Some interesting information was in this article-


This first-

The total pay-TV sector (traditional service providers and virtual MVPDs) shed 885,000 subscribers in Q2 2026

So with the loss of 2.03 Million in the first quarter, already at 2.915 Million gone this year, two quarters left to report.

#2-

The segment ended Q2 with 61.51 million subs comprising 27.5 million cable video subs, 21.42 million vMVPD customers, 9.56 million satellite TV customers, and 3.01 million telco TV subs.

There are approximately 133.97 million households in the United States, according to recent YCharts US Households Data from mid-2026.

That means more than 72 Million households do not have a paid live TV service, about 54% of the total.

What is worse, 7 years ago, paid live TV had over 80% of the population subscribing ( about 100 Million), almost all were Cable/Satellite customers.

Today, only about 37 Million subscribe to Cable/Satellite, less than 28% of our population.

#3-

At one time, Satellite TV (Dish and DirecTV), had about 34 Million subscribers added together, now, 9.56 Million.

That is over a 70% loss for those who subscribe to Satellite TV.

For Cable TV, not as bad, since they have broadband to help against the losses ( bundles), but as more options appear ( 5G, fiber, starlink, etc), I expect a big increase in those leaving cable.

Also expect YTTV to really start gaining even more subscribers, for those who still wish to have a live TV service, based on price point and it is a really great service.
Bruce
Looks like Optimum Communications ( formerly CableVision) is collapsing, due to it's high debt, lenders/creditors are taking over-

Bruce
Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.

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Got a Sony 700 at WM dot commie.

I think.

Ordered, anyway. Amazon let me go thru entire process but then said no inventory.

Hopefully,, WM will come thru.
dishstaller
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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Juan
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price
dishstaller
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
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Juan
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
You are paying for the whole thing
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You are paying for the whole thing
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
Juan
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
But a box can weigh more than an ounce..maybe 2...a can might weigh 5 ounces..a bag...not much
dishstaller
.a bag...not much
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
Juan
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
NYDutch
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.
harshness
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
Jimbo
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
dishstaller
but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...

Obviously you didn't read my post.....google says a coffee bag weighs half an ounce. But let's say you are correct and it DOES weigh a full ounce, that would still fall 5 ounces shy for Walmart's numbers to match.
You wouldn't happen to be kin to Bernie would you
Juan
Obviously you didn't read my post.....google says a coffee bag weighs half an ounce. But let's say you are correct and it DOES weigh a full ounce, that would still fall 5 ounces shy for Walmart's numbers to match.
You wouldn't happen to be kin to Bernie would you
None of it means a hill of coffee beans...the price is the price...its not going to get any lower...as long as you pay the price on the shelf at the register..there is no crime
dishstaller
None of it means a hill of coffee beans...the price is the price...its not going to get any lower...as long as you pay the price on the shelf at the register..there is no crime
I can't BELIEVE this is being such a difficult subject. The issue isn't the price....it's the advertised price per ounce. A lot of shoppers, myself included, use the price per ounce in determining which is the better value....with that number being inaccurate, it can trick someone into thinking that one product cost less per ounce than a competing product. Is this a crime?...above my pay grade. Is it dishonest? Yes.
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Juan
I can't BELIEVE this is being such a difficult subject. The issue isn't the price....it's the advertised price per ounce. A lot of shoppers, myself included, use the price per ounce in determining which is the better value....with that number being inaccurate, it can trick someone into thinking that one product cost less per ounce than a competing product. Is this a crime?...above my pay grade. Is it dishonest? Yes.
Again it makes no difference...call the ftc and file a complaint...maybe your lawyer can file a class action lawsuit and you can collect your 25 cents
Bruce
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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dishstaller
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
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people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
AZ.
AZ.
Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
I agree, for $35 it aint perfect but just as reliable as my cable was. And that was twice as much and still rising
dishstaller
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He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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R.I.P. I thought he was older…
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R.I.P.
Got a few songs on my 'setup' (old cell phone with music) that I can listen to while working
S
RIP
KE4EST
R.I.P. I thought he was older…
Same here. I thought he was older......RIP
SuperDish_Fan23
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
Bobby
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
In my very early work life I installed and repaired those phones.
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
llokey
In my very early work life I installed and repaired those phones.
And I kept them working through the ESS offices.
Bobby
And I kept them working through the ESS offices.
The two central offices in the area I worked were actually step by step offices. :)
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I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
Speaking about cords, I actually did drop a Trimline phone from probably 3 feet high on the floor when I was about 10 or so and it caused a small crack, this was the one with the modular jacks and it was hooked up with I think a 50 ft or longer RJ11C cable from Radio Shack. I still use the phone today connected to a Obi VoIP adapter and the cord is my custom made 6 position RJ11C, not sure of the official name for it without looking it up and Belden MediaTwist Crescent shaped Cat6+ cable.

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LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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so that persons in hiding lol:biggrin
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remembers when ATT had stores and leased home phones
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