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Not sure if this is needed, but usually requested by most groups, so here
it goes.
My name is John, I live in Arizona with my wife and our two sons. I don
t ahve VOOM yet, but am thinking about it.
I guess my question to you all is, do you like it, would you make the
switch from DTV to VOOM (if you were me), or after knowing what you know
now? What about VOOM being in trouble financially?
Any advice would be very helpful.
John
'Understand your limits, but never limit your understanding'.
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My name is John, I live in Arizona with my wife and our two sons. I don
t ahve VOOM yet, but am thinking about it.
I guess my question to you all is, do you like it, would you make the
switch from DTV to VOOM (if you were me), or after knowing what you know
now? What about VOOM being in trouble financially?
Any advice would be very helpful.
John
'Understand your limits, but never limit your understanding'.
www.wing-chun.us
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[VOOM] Re: New member
Thanks, that is what I am looking, obviously the more HD and a
great picture to boot!
What about rumors of financial problems?!?!?!? Growing pains (as
you put it) or a concenr for someone like me wanting to make the jump
to VOOM?
John
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Thanks, that is what I am looking, obviously the more HD and a
great picture to boot!
What about rumors of financial problems?!?!?!? Growing pains (as
you put it) or a concenr for someone like me wanting to make the jump
to VOOM?
John
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Re: [VOOM] Re: New member
Why worry about that? The installation cost right now is only $49 and the equipment is leased to you so if VOOM goes caput you aren't really out very much and the HD content is overwhlemingly superior to any other service. Just don't buy the equipment and another tip is to pick thecorrect number of receivers you want for your house because adding one later gets expensive since they will charge you full installation fee of $199 with no introductory discount once you are already a customer.
Also, they may have upgraded equipment in 2005 including a TIVO like recorder and you may want that. If you've already bought today's VOOM receiver you could always use it as a second receiver in another room after adding the DVR.
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Subject: [VOOM] Re: New member
Thanks, that is what I am looking, obviously the more HD and a
great picture to boot!
What about rumors of financial problems?!?!?!? Growing pains (as
you put it) or a concenr for someone like me wanting to make the jump
to VOOM?
John
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Why worry about that? The installation cost right now is only $49 and the equipment is leased to you so if VOOM goes caput you aren't really out very much and the HD content is overwhlemingly superior to any other service. Just don't buy the equipment and another tip is to pick thecorrect number of receivers you want for your house because adding one later gets expensive since they will charge you full installation fee of $199 with no introductory discount once you are already a customer.
Also, they may have upgraded equipment in 2005 including a TIVO like recorder and you may want that. If you've already bought today's VOOM receiver you could always use it as a second receiver in another room after adding the DVR.
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To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 5:41 AM
Subject: [VOOM] Re: New member
Thanks, that is what I am looking, obviously the more HD and a
great picture to boot!
What about rumors of financial problems?!?!?!? Growing pains (as
you put it) or a concenr for someone like me wanting to make the jump
to VOOM?
John
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[VOOM] Re: New member
I agree, the expense at this time is very minimal. It is kinda the
nervouse feeling of leaving DTV, I have been with them for 6 years or
so. Kinda like a bad realtionship break-up, even though you can't
stand each other, it is never easy. LOL!!!!!!
So, I keep hearing about the PQ, is the HD and SD that much better
than DTV? I personally find that DTV's PQ as degraded over the past
few years. And to be honest, I have seen the cable HD stuff here
with Cox, and I think it blows away DTV's HD.
One last question for you. I have never received my locals over an
antenna before, can you make the non-HD stuff fit your screen? I was
told that you couldn't, and had to watch it with the bars. Is this
true?
Thanks again for you answers, they do help.
John
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I agree, the expense at this time is very minimal. It is kinda the
nervouse feeling of leaving DTV, I have been with them for 6 years or
so. Kinda like a bad realtionship break-up, even though you can't
stand each other, it is never easy. LOL!!!!!!
So, I keep hearing about the PQ, is the HD and SD that much better
than DTV? I personally find that DTV's PQ as degraded over the past
few years. And to be honest, I have seen the cable HD stuff here
with Cox, and I think it blows away DTV's HD.
One last question for you. I have never received my locals over an
antenna before, can you make the non-HD stuff fit your screen? I was
told that you couldn't, and had to watch it with the bars. Is this
true?
Thanks again for you answers, they do help.
John
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!
A couple of pieces of info:
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
A couple of pieces of info:
- Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
- Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
- During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
- Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
- Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
- There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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I ran the Schedule S through ChatGPT to analyze the data quickly, and according to ChatGPT, the 16 transponders currently being used for SpotBeams on 110 is all that has been authorized by the FCC. So Dish might be using TP 01-13 for ConUS on 110 for the foreseeable future. If that is the case, Dish has a ton of space to bring in more HD channels nationally or use that bandwidth for something else.
I know my lists aren't perfect as I can't see all the test channels and behind the scenes channels, but for channels available to subscribers - there are no channels on 119 TP 01-08 and 10; and on 110, TP14 has only 4 channels. With Dish putting 16 HD channels per transponder right now, that is about 145+ slots for HD channels that are available if Dish does keep 110 as ConUS for TP 01-13.
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Direct YouTube Link - No AI? No Search! Google's Education Controversy #shorts
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Direct YouTube Link - No AI? No Search! Google's Education Controversy #shorts
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Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!
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Direct YouTube Link - RTX Spark Laptops: $7,000 Disappointment?
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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AT&T, Rakuten tout integration with AST SpaceMobile for D2D
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Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.
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Does someone still have the diagram showing how to connect two Hopper 3s again?
I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.
The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.
I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.
The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
R
So is Kelce.Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
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Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
He wants to be BradyMahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:
https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html
Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)
If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html
Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)
If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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One Bonus View channel added today. And one correction (on my part):
One Removed:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.
Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.
One Removed:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.
Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.
T
Three new Bonus View channels today:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.
Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.
You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.
www.usgs.gov
View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4
Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.
View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.
You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.
Monitoring Data for Kīlauea
For more information on how electronic tiltmeters and GPS receivers help monitor the deformation of Kīlauea volcano, see the HVO Deformation page.
View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4
Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.
View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.
edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:
Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice
Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)
Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE
Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii
Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:
Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice
Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)
Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE
Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii
Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
- All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.
Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:
The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.