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I am new to this board, but I did do a search here and elsewhere but I am still confused about DishNetwork wiring/multi-switch setups.

What I'd really love to have is a link to a good website showing all the different ways that a dishnetwork system can be wired up (so I can just figure this stuff out on my own), but if that's not possible, then just an answer to my specific situation would be nice.

I currently have two receivers, a 508 and a 4700. I have a Legacy Dish500 system with two dual LNBF's feeding two SW21's, one for each receiver.

I want to replace my 4700 receiver with a 921 (as soon as it's available), and receive programming at the 921 from 110, 119 and 61.5, and continue to get signals from 110 and 119 on the 508. (this is based on my understanding that HD content will remain on 110 for now with the exception of HBO-HD, SHO-HD and CBS-HD, all of which I want, which are on 61.5 at least for now.. I think the only thing I won't get is PPV-HD (which would be nice) because as I understand it, that's only available at 148).

Obviously, I need a 'dish 300' style dish (single satellite dish) to look at the 61.5 satellite, but what's the easiest (ie: least expensive) way to get this all working and all the right signals where they need to go. I don't mind running new cables as necessary, and I doubt I'll be adding any additional receivers for a while, if ever.

Alternatively, assuming that Dish moves HBO-HD and CBS-HD over to 110 before I manage to get my hands on a 921, then I'd just need my existing Dish500 setup, but I'd still need help getting that wired up to the new receiver because the 921 has dual satellite inputs versus the single input of the 4700 it will be replacing.

Thanks in advance for graciously sharing your wisdom.
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gpflepsen
Thinking about it, you may want to switch out the lnbs to Pro types. Then utilize a DP34 switch. Makes everything much easier.
Guest
Are any of your local channels on 61.5, if they are DISH will install a second dish and switches free?
B
Since your 4900 (the 4700 got upgraded) is a legacy receiver, they may put in a Twin like they did for Iceberg. You do NOT want a legacy Twin because it will never support more than 2 tuners. Find out ahead of time what they will be installing. If they won't take your future plans into account you may have to wait until after the 921 is on your account to order the side slot dish.

http://www.switchinfo.info/index.htm
http://www.18inch.com/
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I do get the Chicago locals, and I was thinking that since I get all the ones I 'want' at 110, I'd have to purchase the equipment for 61.5... so let me get this straight (I think I still have a decision to make here).

If I call up Dish now and say I'd like to get my locals off 61.5, they will set me up with what I need, free of charge, BUT, the set up might not support my addition of the 921 when I manage to get my hands on one, right? In fact, it might be worse if they give me a 'twin' and take my two dual LNBs. And at that point, it would be up to me to purchase whatever I need to get the 921 hooked up in place of my 4900, but at least I wouldn't need the dish itself (nor would have have to actually install the dish, which is not that big of a deal anyways).

If I wait until I have the 921 in hand, I won't be able to 'fully' hook it up with the switches/wiring I've got (will it work at all with only one feed hooked up instead of two?). I then call Dish and say I want my other locals and they send out a guy, but won't he see that I've got a 921 not hooked up, and that what I really want is my HBO-HD, SHO-HD and CBS-HD and I'm just looking for a free 61.5 dish and switches? I mean, he'd be doing more than just adding my locals at that point, he'd be hooking up my new receiver 'fully'.

Which way do you guys think I should go? Although the prospect of getting some or all of this equipment free sounds nice, now I'm even a bit more confused as to what I should do.

One thing that might weigh into my decision... let's say they come and remove my dual-dual LNB's for a Twin, do they take my two dual LNB's with when they leave, or do I keep them?

Here's another thing to take into consideration (maybe)... I've got an old 2700 in my basement that the 508 replaced. Maybe I could ask for my additional locals, and tell them that I'm hooking up the third receiver now, and they would set that up? When I get the 921 I just feed the signal from the un-needed 3rd receiver to the 921 and cancel the extra receiver charge (well, I'd cancel the extra receiver charge the next month anyways).

Ahhh.... so confused.
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Walt
If you plan on getting the 921 when it comes out, I would wait until you have it in your hands and then call to add the extra dish.

If you are going to wait a while (6 months or so), have them come out and install it now. Hooking up the older receiver would actually hurt because right now you have only 1 receiver that won't work with DishPro. If you add the other receiver, the odds of them adding a legacy LNB is almost a given. Keep the 2 receivers setup. Ask what equipment they are bringing. If they bring DishPro out, they would install a DishPro twin and a Dish300 Single (dishpro) connected with a DP34. That will give you 4 outputs. They would have to hook up a legacy adapter to the 4900, but you would be all set for the 921..

To make it a little easier---
Getting 921 right away...wait
Waiting on 921 for a while....make sure they bring DishPro LNB's out. If they arent, then wait..
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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dishstaller
Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
RaiderPower
Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
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Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte
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Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
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This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
iJustine
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It's not even where it folds!
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
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He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Scott Greczkowski
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
S
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
B
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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