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This was filed on 11/5/2004. Thanks for seanb61 for the alert.

I have taken various statements from the amedment filing. You make your own conclusions about it.

1 - MPEG-4 will not have happen until last quarter of 2005 for SD channels and 2006 for HD channels

2 - 35" wide by 20" high the specification of the elliptical dish. No plans yet when to use that orbital location. 5,000 of them have been initially ordered.

3 - Operational budget of VOOM DBS 661.2 million.

4 -WE HAVE EXPERIENCED OPERATING LOSSES AT RAINBOW DBS AND EXPECT TO DO SO FOR
THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE

5 -As of September 30, 2004 we had approximately 26,000 activated customers, with an additional 1,250 customers awaiting installation.

6 - Customers delinquency. Never paid.

7 - No Local offering main reason customers decided to deactivate

8 - 2 TPs were given an extension until March 31, 2005

9 - Updating/Upgrading Billing and Inventory Management.

10- Rainbow 1 on 9/25/04 suffered the loss of one solar array
circuit out of the 24 solar array circuits on the satellite

Read and draw your conclusions and I know we'll get a lot of the naysayers saying "I told you so the building is going down".


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OUR RAINBOW DBS BUSINESS

Our Rainbow DBS business began operations in October 2003 with the
introduction of our VOOM(SM) service, which carries a larger number of
high-definition channels than any other satellite provider or cable television
system. As of September 30, 2004, the VOOM(SM) service offering included 36
channels in high definition, including 21 currently exclusive VOOM(SM) channels,
over 80 standard definition channels and 18 audio channels. As of September 30,
2004 we had approximately 26,000 activated customers and an additional 1,250
customers awaiting installation.

Our goal is to be the premier source for high definition programming and to
exploit that position to develop a successful DBS business.
During the first
year of our Rainbow DBS operations we have sought to develop a better
understanding of the market for satellite-delivered programming, and high
definition content in particular. We have also worked to overcome start up
issues particularly with respect to equipment, installation and operations.
Finally, we have tested, and continue to test, a variety of pricing, promotion
and marketing plans to develop the most effective strategy to attract and retain
subscribers to our service. This testing is likely to continue into 2005. During
this time we will focus our attention on developing a successful strategy rather
than driving rapid subscriber growth. It is possible that at various times
during this period we may lose more customers than we add. A particularly
important decision for us will be finding the right balance between a broad,
national marketing effort and an effort that is more targeted to the specific
markets in the country which we believe are most promising. There can be no
assurance that our efforts will be successful.

Our Satellite Transmission Capacity. The VOOM(SM) service is transmitted
by our Rainbow DBS satellite, Rainbow 1, that was constructed by Lockheed
Martin, successfully launched in July 2003 and delivered to its 61.5(degree)
W.L. orbital position. From this orbital position, the satellite provides
coverage to the contiguous United States, provided customers have a line of
sight to the satellite.

In addition, on April 23, 2004, we entered into an agreement with SES
Americom, Inc. to lease 13 transponders as of October 1, 2004 and three
transponders as of January 1, 2005 on its Americom-6 satellite, which is located
at 72(degree) W.L. We have not yet determined how or when we will use the
transponder capacity on Americom-6 in our DBS business
. Because of the orbital
positions of the Americom-6 satellite and our existing Rainbow 1 satellite,
which is located at its 61.5(degree) W.L., a subscriber will be unable to access
the signal from both satellites with a single 18" antenna of the type we have
installed and are currently installing but both could be accessed with a single
elliptical satellite antenna that will be approximately 35" wide by 20" high or
with the 18" antenna plus a second antenna that would receive the signal from
Americom-6. The size and other specifications of the second antenna

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have not yet been determined and may depend in part on how we decide to use the
transponder capacity on Americom-6. The Company has not finalized its plans for
implementing the use of the new satellite capacity, for the installation of the
new larger antennas for new customers or for the switch over of existing
customers to the new larger antennas or the addition of a second antenna.

Our Rainbow DBS business received authorization from the Federal
Communications Commission, or FCC, to construct, launch and operate five fixed
service, Ka-band communications satellites that could be used to provide
additional services, including data and video applications. Rainbow DBS also
invested $85 million, and owns a substantial interest in an entity that holds
licenses from the FCC to provide multichannel video distribution and data
service (MVDDS) in 46 metropolitan areas in the United States. These areas
include the New York City market, although it is uncertain whether the entity
may exploit that license in light of FCC cross-ownership restrictions. Rainbow
DBS believes that these frequencies could be used in conjunction with its
satellite services to provide local broadcast signals or other services. In July
2004, our Rainbow DBS business was the winning bidder in an FCC auction of
Ku-band DBS frequencies at two orbital locations over the Pacific Ocean.
Although it has no current plans for these orbital locations, Rainbow DBS
believes that these locations could be used to provide DBS services to Hawaii
and the West coast of the United States including parts of Alaska.

Our Rainbow DBS business faces a number of challenges and risks. The most
significant of these are discussed under "Risk Factors -- Risks Relating to Our
Rainbow DBS Business" and include the risks that a sufficient number of
customers may not find our service to be attractive in order to permit us to be
successful, that we expect to incur operating losses for the foreseeable future
and may never achieve or sustain operating profits or cash flow breakeven, that
we need significant additional funding in this business which may not be
available and that our owned satellite and leased satellites could experience
operating problems.



RNS distributed approximately $1,366.1 million of the net proceeds from the
$600 million term loan borrowing and the $800 million Notes offerings to Rainbow
Media Enterprises. We, in turn, distributed approximately $704.9 million to our
existing parent company, Rainbow Media Holdings LLC, or "RMH", which used those
funds to repay all of its borrowings under its credit facility. The facility was
cancelled concurrent with the repayment and the guarantees of such facility that
had been issued by AMC, WE and IFC were discharged. We will use the remaining
portion of the funds distributed to us by RNS of approximately $661.2 million to
invest primarily in Rainbow DBS and, to a lesser extent, in certain developing
Rainbow Programming businesses.


PIRACY OF OUR CONTENT AND THE IMPACT OF PERSONAL VIDEO RECORDERS COULD
NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR PERFORMANCE


Piracy of our content by means of interception of cable and satellite
transmissions or Internet peer-to-peer file sharing and the impact of personal
video recorder "ad-stripping" functions on advertising sales and network
branding could negatively affect our performance.

RISKS RELATING TO OUR RAINBOW DBS BUSINESS

WE HAVE EXPERIENCED OPERATING LOSSES AT RAINBOW DBS AND EXPECT TO DO SO FOR
THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. WE CANNOT BE CERTAIN THAT WE WILL ACHIEVE OR SUSTAIN
OPERATING PROFITABILITY OR POSITIVE CASH FLOW FROM OPERATING ACTIVITIES

During the first and second quarters of 2004, our Rainbow DBS business
experienced operating losses of approximately $36.0 million and $61.6 million,
respectively, on revenues in those periods of $1.0 million and $2.7 million,
respectively. Our ability to operate our Rainbow DBS business successfully and
our ability to achieve acceptable financial performance cannot be assured.
Successful performance will depend largely upon our ability to establish and
retain a very large customer base with a viable price structure and to
effectively manage our costs and control subscriber "churn," which is the rate
at which subscribers terminate service. The principal challenge for our Rainbow
DBS business is to attract a sufficient subscriber base to reach and exceed a
break-even point and to do so with subscriber acquisition and other costs that
are within our funding capabilities. We cannot assure you that we will be
effective with regard to these matters. Our financial performance will affect
the market value of our common stock and other securities. Due to the
substantial expenditures necessary to complete construction, launch and
deployment of our direct broadcast satellite and introduction of our Rainbow DBS
service to consumers, our Rainbow DBS business has sustained significant losses
and will continue to sustain significant losses for the foreseeable future.

We will need to continue to invest funds in our Rainbow DBS business to
support its operations, including funding the shortfall between revenues and
expenses. If we are unable to rapidly grow the number of subscribers to our
VOOM(SM) service and do so without incurring unexpectedly high subscriber
acquisition costs, we may not be able to obtain sufficient funding to continue
to operate our Rainbow DBS business. Rainbow DBS will also have significant
funding requirements as it seeks to meet milestone obligations associated with
FCC authorizations to launch five Ka-band satellites and to build out the
infrastructure needed to capitalize on FCC authorizations to provide
multichannel video distribution and data services, or MVDDS, in 46 metropolitan
areas in the United States. Similarly, significant funding will be required to
meet FCC milestone obligations relating to Ku-band frequencies at two new
orbital

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locations for which Rainbow DBS was the successful bidder at a July 2004
auction. We may be unable to raise the necessary financing to fund all of these
costs.


CUSTOMERS MAY NOT FIND OUR SERVICES TO BE ATTRACTIVE

Ultimately our success will depend upon our ability to convince a large
number of consumers to order our service and thus attract a sufficient
subscriber base to reach and exceed a break-even point, and to do so with
subscriber acquisition and other costs that are within our funding capabilities.
We have no history of being able to do this. Through the end of September 2004,
we had attracted fewer subscribers than we anticipated and have lost more
subscribers than we expected. As of September 30, 2004 we had approximately
26,000 activated customers, with an additional 1,250 customers awaiting
installation. Our number of subscribers declined in each of August and
September, 2004. Since our launch in October 2003 through the end of September
2004, approximately 32% of the customers who had activated our service
subsequently terminated the service. In August and September, 2004, our churn
rate -- the number of disconnected customers divided by the average number of
activated customers during the month was 11% and 9%, respectively. We did not
deactivate any accounts for nonpayment prior to October, 2004. If we had
deactivated accounts that were 90 days or more past due at the end of each
month, the churn rates would have been 16% and 13%, in August and September,
respectively, and our cumulative disconnects as a percentage of customers who
activated the service since we began operations would have been 39% through the
end of September.

To be successful, we must increase substantially and continuously the rate
at which we add new customers. We experienced an upward trend in new customer
additions in April, May and June, 2004. However, the rate at which we added new
customers declined in July, August and September. We believe that this decline
is attributable primarily to our decision to scale back direct advertising
beginning in June, when it became apparent that we could not efficiently install
a growing number of customers, and to our decision, effective August 1, 2004, to
increase our consumer pricing and to eliminate our "no-money down" equipment
rental program. Unless we are able to reverse this trend and grow our customer
base quickly and significantly, we are unlikely to have a successful DBS
business.


WE HAVE A LIMITED PERIOD IN WHICH TO ESTABLISH OUR BRAND AND A LARGE CUSTOMER
BASE

We are currently offering more high-definition programming than any other
cable or satellite provider. While we hope to continue to develop new
high-definition offerings, some of which may be exclusive to us, we expect that
at some point high-definition programming will largely replace standard
definition offerings as the prevalent form of programming for all providers.
Accordingly, we will have a limited period of time in which to exploit our
high-definition programming advantage to establish our brand and a large base of
subscribers. There can be no assurance that we will be able to do so.

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WE COULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE PROBLEMS

Following the launch of our VOOM(SM) service in October 2003, we
encountered operational problems with our satellite receivers. We believe that
most of these problems have been eliminated but, because our hardware and
software are new, we continue to encounter operational issues that need to be
addressed and resolved, and we expect that we will continue to encounter
problems in the future. In particular, it is likely that we will face
operational issues when we transition our compression technology from MPEG-2 to
MPEG-4, which is expected to occur no earlier than September 2005 for standard
definition programming and sometime early in 2006 for high definition
programming of 2005.


WE HAVE EXPERIENCED INSTALLATION PROBLEMS

In May 2004, as the number
of scheduled installations began to ramp up as a result of our increased
marketing efforts, we found that our installation infrastructure could not
provide timely installation. As a result, in June we began to scale back our
direct marketing efforts in order to reduce our backlog of customers awaiting
installation and thereby reduce the time between receipt of an order and
installation. Over the past several months we have been reassessing our
logistics and installation infrastructure to be able to handle an increase in
installation volume. To be successful, we will need to have the capability to
quickly install numbers of customers significantly in excess of the number of
installations that created problems for us in June and July.


WE FACE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CREDIT OF OUR CUSTOMERS

Our success depends upon our ability to collect monthly programming and
other charges from our customers. Because we offered free service until March
31, 2004 and because we offered a "no-money down" equipment rental option until
August 1, 2004, we have a large number of installed customers who have never
made any payments to us or who are otherwise not current in their payments to
us. Our existing subscriber management and billing system does not allow us to
track payment delinquencies in an accurate and timely manner. We are in the
process of upgrading that system to permit us to do so. In October 2004, we
began to terminate service to customers based upon payment delinquency.


There can be no assurance that our churn rate will decrease
over time to an acceptable level. Our churn rate has increased sharply in recent
months. We believe this increase is primarily due to (i) disconnects by
customers who took advantage of our "no money down" offer and subsequently
terminated the service; (ii) disconnects by customers who were not satisfied
with the availability of off-air signals; and (iii) disconnects by customers who
did not receive all of the cable channels they expected to receive. Since we
first began to disconnect customers in October for nonpayment, our churn rate
for October will be disproportionately high because we will be disconnecting
customers who would have been disconnected in August and September based upon a
policy of disconnecting customers who are 90 days or more delinquent in payment.

Our business model
assumed that customers would receive their local signals through the off-air
antenna that was included in our basic equipment package. We have found that
this is not always the case, particularly in areas where off-air signals are
weak, in areas where the local stations are not provided in digital format all
day or at all or at consistent power levels, and in cases where there are
particular customer problems such as inadequate line of sight to the signal or
poor installation. We have found through surveys of customers who deactivate the
service that poor reception of local signals is a significant cause of our
higher than anticipated churn rate.


OUR BUSINESS DEPENDS SUBSTANTIALLY ON FCC LICENSES THAT CAN BE REVOKED OR
MODIFIED


We have a license to transmit on 11 frequencies on our Rainbow 1 satellite
at the 61.5(degree) W.L. orbital location, which expires in 2013, as well as
authorizations to operate earth stations to control and communicate with the
satellite. These authorizations are renewable by the FCC. We also hold special
temporary authority ("STA"), to transmit over two additional DBS frequencies at
61.5(degree) W.L. The FCC has not yet adopted rules for the permanent assignment
of these channels, and we cannot predict when or if the FCC will permanently
assign them. The STA runs for a period of 180 days and may be extended. The
initial STA expired on April 5, 2004, and the first renewal of the STA expired
on

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October 2, 2004, but we have applied for an extension and under FCC rules may
continue to transmit under the STA during the pendency of the extension request.
We will have use of the two channels until the earlier of March 31, 2005, the
permanent assignment of the two channels, or an FCC order requiring Rainbow DBS
to vacate the two channels. If the FCC has not permanently assigned these
channels by March 31, 2005, we may apply to extend our STA for an additional 180

days. The STA is subject to several restrictive conditions and limitations
regarding our use of the frequencies.

WE RELY ON THIRD PARTY VENDORS TO PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR DBS
BUSINESS


We do not have the in-house capacity to provide the customer care,
subscriber management, inventory management and billing and installation
functions that are necessary to operate our Rainbow DBS business. We cannot
assure you that we will be able to maintain relationships with reliable third-
party vendors on terms that are acceptable to us, if at all. In addition, we may
not be able to provide these services to our customers or have these functions
performed with the appropriate quality standard or oversee the service quality
effectively. Our business would be materially adversely affected if we are
unable to offer quality service to our customers and to have these functions
performed satisfactorily.

Our current subscriber management and billing system and our manual
inventory tracking methods are adequate given the current scale of our
operations but need to be, and are in the process of being, upgraded to support
growth in our business.

The configuration of our subscriber management and billing system prior to
October, 2004 did not allow us to automatically track payment delinquencies or
to extract aggregate data and reports on the specific consumer offer or
promotion that applies to our customers in an accurate and timely manner. In
September and October, we made changes to the system that we believe will solve
the problem.

Prior to September, 2004, we did not have a perpetual inventory system that
allowed us to track our subscriber equipment throughout our distribution system
in an orderly and timely fashion. In September, we began using our subscriber
management and billing system's inventory control module to track movement of
our subscriber receivers to and from our warehousing vendor and our installation
contractor. This now enables us to track our subscriber receivers, which
constitute most of our inventory. We are

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currently in the process of implementing a new automated, perpetual inventory
system from an outsider provider, which will provide automated costing and
tracking of inventory.

In preparing our financial statements, we have implemented manual controls
and procedures (including performing physical inventories) to compensate for the
limitations of these systems. Based upon our levels of revenues, subscribers and
inventory since we began our DBS operations, these system limitations have not
materially affected our ability to accurately report on our operating results or
assets. However, these manual controls and procedures would not be adequate for
our business if we are successful in significantly increasing our revenues and
adding a significant number of subscribers.

All of the system upgrades are expected to be in place before the date of
the Distribution. However, we cannot assure you that we will not experience
problems with the upgrades and systems we put in place. In addition, our new
inventory system will still not be an ideal solution and will require us to
continue to maintain manual controls over our inventory until we are able to
implement a more sophisticated system, currently targeted for 2005.


On September 25, 2004 Rainbow 1 suffered the loss of one solar array
circuit out of the 24 solar array circuits on the satellite. The solar array
circuits use solar energy to recharge the satellite's batteries and are
therefore critical to the satellite's power supply. Loss of solar array circuits
can create potential power related problems for the satellite, including
possible reduction in the useful life of the satellite and possible inability to
obtain full use of all of the satellite's transponders. The satellite was
designed with more solar array circuits than the minimum needed to allow the
satellite sufficient power to utilize its transponders



Standard definition and high-definition are two formats of displaying
digital television, with high-definition television offering more enhanced
vertical and horizontal resolution and higher quality stereo sound as compared
to standard definition television. High-definition channels display pictures
that contain significantly more detail, resulting in much "crisper" pictures.
When we transfer to MPEG-4 standard definition compression, over time we will
nearly double our capacity to deliver standard definition programming.
Similarly, with the transition to MPEG-4 for high-definition we will increase
our high-definition capacity by 50%. For example, once the MPEG-4 conversion for
both standard definition and high-definition is fully implemented, using
capacity on both Rainbow 1 and Americom-6 we could offer up to 109
high-definition channels and 330 standard definition channels, or some mix of
the two formats. The actual allocation of channels between standard definition
and high-definition has not yet been decided.

We originally contemplated transferring to MPEG-4 compression technology in
the first quarter of 2005 for standard definition programming and in the fourth
quarter of 2005 for high definition programming. That timing is now under
review. We currently anticipate that we will obtain additional capacity from
further advances in MPEG-2 technology beginning in the first quarter of 2005. We
now expect to transition to MPEG-4 compression no earlier than September 2005
for standard definition programming and sometime early in 2006 for high
definition programming.


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The additional transponder capacity we have acquired through our lease on
Americom-6 will give us the capability using MPEG-2 compression to offer 27
high-definition and 116 standard definition channels, or some similar
combination of standard and high-definition channels.


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and to meet its 15-year design life. If the satellite lost additional solar
array circuits it may result in an inability to use one or more of its


OUR SUBSCRIPTION PLAN


We are currently offering programming packages ranging from $49.90 to
$89.90 per month. Under our basic offer, consumers who want these packages have
two options for acquiring the home equipment needed to receive the programming.
The first is to pay a $199 installation fee and a monthly equipment charge of
$9.50 per month per receiver. Alternatively, the consumer can choose to purchase
the equipment and related installation for $499. Under this option each
additional receiver costs the subscriber an incremental $299. With both options
the subscriber is charged a $5.00 per month fee for each activated receiver they
have installed. The basic equipment options do not require consumers to
subscribe to the service for any minimum period of time. Consumers who activated
the service prior to August 1, 2004 when the new pricing was implemented
continue to receive the programming at the price in effect when they originally
subscribed.

Currently we are offering two promotions that reduce the cost to the
consumer of initiating the service. Our primary promotion reduces by $150 the
$199 equipment installation fee that is charged to subscribers who elect the
monthly equipment fee option or the $499 equipment installation fee for those
who elect to purchase their equipment, and, in either case, the subscriber must
commit to retain the service for one year. The second promotion, which requires
no minimum time commitment from the subscriber, offers subscribers who elect to
purchase their equipment our most extensive programming
package -- VaVaVoom -- free for three months. Under this second promotion
subscribers electing the monthly equipment fee option receive our VaVaVoom
package for three months at $1 per month and there are no monthly equipment
charges during that three month period.

Consumers who requested service after August 1, 2004 were offered several
programming packages; an entry level package at $49.90 per month, four premium
movie PlusPaks at $19.90 per month per

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package, an adult premium channel, Playboy HD, for $19.90 per month, or the
entry level package plus the four premium movie PlusPaks for $89.90 per month.
The entry-level package includes:

- 21 new and exclusive high-definition channels from Rainbow including 10
channels of high-definition movies;

- over 50 of the most-watched cable channels;

- 18 commercial-free digital music channels;

- local off-air digital broadcast channels, where available; and

- a two-year, in-home service plan.

Until the offer changes, customers who sign up for the entry-level service
can also receive all the recognized, non-premium, high-definition cable channels
as part of the package with no additional charge through December 2004.

Subscribers may also purchase one or more premium multiplex movie service
PlusPaks for $19.90 per month. The PlusPaks are:

- HBO -- nine channels, two of which are in high-definition;

- Cinemax -- nine channels, two of which are in high-definition;

- Showtime -- nine channels, three of which are in high-definition; and

- Starz!/Encore -- nine channels, three of which are in high-definition.

Customers can also order VaVaVoom, an all inclusive package, for $89.90 per
month that includes both the entry level package and the four premium multiplex
movie services.

We may from time to time offer different pricing packages on a promotional
or test basis and we may change our base offer from time to time.

transponders or shorten its useful life.

The satellite has adequate transponders to service a maximum of 13
frequencies in contiguous United States, or CONUS, mode or up to 12 frequencies
in spot beam mode and one in CONUS mode. CONUS mode transmits programming to the
entire contiguous United States, while spot beam mode uses smaller, focused
satellite beams to cover a limited geographic region. Outside the selected area
in the spot beam mode, the signal is undetectable and will not interfere with
the reuse of the same frequency in a distant spot beam. We currently have
deployed the satellite's transponders in CONUS mode for all 13 frequencies.
Through MPEG-2 digital compression technology we can transmit 3 high-definition
channels and 7 standard definitions channels from each transponder.

Transponders on the satellite may be subsequently redeployed into spot beam
mode at any future time, providing us flexibility in the future. The spot beam
capability of the satellite permits flexibility in capacity utilization and
could allow efficient use of our limited frequency allocation to provide a
significant amount of local and regional programming. This use of spot-beams
could enable us to provide service to over 125 local markets with non-digital
local broadcast signals. This would, however, reduce the number of video
channels that could otherwise be offered on a national basis.


The lease became effective on October 1, 2004 but we have not yet
determined how or when we will use the transponder capacity on Americom-6 in our
DBS business. Until we begin using Americom-6 we are attempting to lease our
transponder capacity to others on a short-term basis but we do not expect to
earn significant revenues and we will not offset our lease costs. Because of the
orbital positions of the Americom-6 satellite and our existing Rainbow 1
satellite, which is located at its 61.5 (degree) W.L., a subscriber will be
unable to access the signal from both satellites with a single 18" antenna of
the type we have installed and are currently installing but both could be
accessed with a single elliptical satellite antenna that will be approximately
35" wide by 20" high or with the 18" antenna plus a second antenna that would
receive the signal from Americom-6. The size and other specifications of the
second antenna have not yet been determined and may depend in part on how we
decide to use the transponder capacity on Americom-6. Rainbow DBS has not
finalized its plans for implementing the use of the new satellite capacity, for
the installation of the new larger antennas for new customers or for the switch
over of existing customers to the new larger antennas or the addition of a
second antenna. We have placed an initial order for 5,000 of the new larger dish
antennas. We have not yet specified, or sought proposals from manufacturers,

with respect to the second antenna configuration. We are not yet providing the
new larger antenna or installing additional antennas so we do not know how much
customer resistance to the larger antenna size or to a second antenna we will
encounter. See also "Risk Factors -- Risks Relating to Our Rainbow DBS
Business -- Customers May Not Find Our Services to be Attractive."
64 Replies · 9598 views
W
If you're a potential investor, you should care about whether or not V*is gonna make it and all the financial crap.
Now if you're a customer, simply relax an enjoy it (while it last). You have nothing to lose, especially if you're renting the equipment.
In my case, I'll stay with V* until either the Rainbow-1 signal shuts down or another provider offers me a better HD package (very unlikely).
A
I agree except the lack of a DVR continues to be a problem. When I signed up at the end of may, the DVR was projected for summer and new bandwidth for more channels was projected for October.

I personally don't care how many subscribers there are. I do care that I'm now forced to watch shows like Lost in SD because there is no DVR and the show conflicts with NBA. Since D* doesn't have TNT-HD, I'm sticking with both for now. I did order NBA League pass from D*, though, so I'm locked into them through may.

There is a limit to how long I'll pay for Voom as a supplemental service - they need to start showing moves towards becoming a complete service - add bandwitdth, get the sports channels all up, add things like NBA League pass, get the DVR out, etc.
riffjim4069
alandail said:
There is a limit to how long I'll pay for Voom as a supplemental service - they need to start showing moves towards becoming a complete service - add bandwitdth, get the sports channels all up, add things like NBA League pass, get the DVR out, etc.
Amen! My wife and I can afford to pay for more than 50 Va Va Voom subscriptions each month, but we elect to invest our money in our retirement and future savings. We love HD (actually, I do!), but there is only so much we are willing to pay to watch TV! Right now we are paying for both VOOM and Cable.

The simple fact of the matter is crappy Cable and their 14 HD channels---bundled with greatly discounted broadband Internet---is much less expensive than VOOM. Basically, we would be paying paying roughly $60 more for VOOm and it's 21 Exclusives than we would for Cable minus the VOOM Exclusives to support three rooms. As much as I like VOOM the bottom line is my wife and I both work, I spend too much time commuting to/from work, the wife would be just as happy watching a 19" TV, we're busy with 3 late teen daughters and one very unexpected 2 year old, and most of our TV time is spend watching free over-the-air network TV. I have two OTA antennas and pull in programming from 4 DMAs. I hate Cable TV and they and their very inexpensive HD DVR (I really love the HD DVR!) are out the door when the promo price ends the end of January.

As I've said at least a dozen times, if VOOM isn't ready to offer an reasonably priced Whole Home Networking DVR (9.95 DVR rental or 399.95 purchase price) - free thin clients with 1 year lease or $99 thin client purchase - $5 mirror fee - rollback pricing to 39.99/79.99/14.99...then my VOOM service will be terminated along with Cable...just call 'em Sarah Conner! :yes

Sorry VOOM, as much as I like the HD....and as much as I like the concept...there is only so much I am willing to spend on watching TV and your service has failed to deliver the DVR, added channels, bigger dish, MPEG-4, etc. Repeat, there is only so much I am going to spend on TV! It's just that simple!!! Although I have 2 HDTVs and money in my pocket, I plan to keep my money to retire early and not throw it into outer space. Hmmm. VOOM, when are you going to understand this? Really! When are you going to understand that it's only a matter of time (3-5 years tops!) before all TV is HDTV. It's at this point where HDTV will take off then the price of America's Top 60 is $29.95 and America's Top 100 is only $39.95.

Yikes! I want Va Va VOOM. I want Va Va VOOM now! I want Va Va VOOM and with HD DVR, Whole Home Networking, all the premium channels, additional SD channels (Lifetime, HGTV, Food), additional HD channels (Wealth-TV, INHD, INHD2, HDNET, HDNET Movies), all for under $100 with all applicable taxes and without additional rental and mirror frees. It's just that simple!!!! Give me HD, give me lot's of HD, give me lot's of affordable HD!!!

Perhaps I was wrong about wanting Microsoft to purchase VOOM...maybe I should be hoping for Wal-Mart to purchase VOOM: bring us lots of HD...and then roll-back the prices. I'm sorry, but cheap HD can only be provided by a provider with the size and stability to afford both the equipment and operate under lower profit margins.

Affordable, reliable, complete and technologically advanced HD. That's what we demand. VOOM, either 5h1t or get off the pot!
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Me TOO!!

Walter L. said:
If you're a potential investor, you should care about whether or not V*is gonna make it and all the financial crap.
Now if you're a customer, simply relax an enjoy it (while it last). You have nothing to lose, especially if you're renting the equipment.
In my case, I'll stay with V* until either the Rainbow-1 signal shuts down or another provider offers me a better HD package (very unlikely).

I agree. I don't understand the people that threaten to drop VOOM because they don't have a DVR - does Dish have an HD DVR? (cancelled) does Cablevision? (promised, but not in my area) does DirectTV? (yes, for $1000 plus monthly Tivo). VOOM has more HD channels than all the other providers combined. The others have promised more, but they're not here yet.

I subscribe to VOOM to watch HD TV. Someday the HD PVR will be great, but in the meantime, I'm watching a LOT of great TV.

My 2 cents!
Bruce
GEBrown said:
I agree. I don't understand the people that threaten to drop VOOM because they don't have a DVR - does Dish have an HD DVR? (cancelled-no not cancelled,just lowered price to $549.00,new one-922?-might be out second quarter-05) does Cablevision? (promised, but not in my area-this affects you,but not others,a few cable companies have them,Comcast here does) does DirectTV? (yes, for $1000 plus monthly Tivo-it's been said at AVS that it has been lowered to $650.00,and not fair to compaired to Voom's DVR(vaporware) at far as the monthly charges go,none of us know if Voom will(or not) charge monthly fees,if you have top buy,lease,or beg for one). VOOM has more HD channels than all the other providers combined. The others have promised more, but they're not here yet.

I subscribe to VOOM to watch HD TV. Someday the HD PVR will be great, but in the meantime, I'm watching a LOT of great TV.

My 2 cents!


I hope Voom get its DVR going,I rather give them another try, then buy E*'s 921 or go back to Comcast(yech).
"MysteryMan"
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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EarDemon
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
WhiteBeard
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
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EarDemon
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
EarDemon
I have no OEM bloat, on CTO devices where I can access the drive, I order it with the smallest allowed drive and crack the device open throw the factory drive in the garbage and put in my own WD Black and install Windows from bootable media. For Windows bloat, I install Windows using the English - World option which limits preinstalled MS bloat.

Windows and Office features I wish to block, like CoPilot and Cortana, macro enabled Office files and others are blocked with GPOs.

Between keeping all software up to date, doing firmware updates, putting IoT devices on a separate VLAN, running Symantec Endpoint (say what you want about it, it's been good to me) and practicing safe hex, I'm vigilant but not paranoid about security.

With NVMe SSDs, my cold boot up time on all devices is under 30 secs as well. Fast boot disabled, BitLocker drive encryption enabled.

I have nothing against Linux, been paying with it on and off since 2004ish, it's just not the right solution for me.
HipKat
it's just not the right solution for me.
As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.

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harshness
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.
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What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?
Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.
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EarDemon
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.
harshness
Because it's what I prefer.
I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.
Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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zipping right along here
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
Foxbat
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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jannah
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Help, I'm a little confjused on the activation process.
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks
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jannah
All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return. 🙂
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All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return. 🙂
i bought mine straight from dish as it was only $ 100.00 bucks!!! had the protection plan they came out removed and deactivated the 4k joey and activated and installed the joey 4.
zcrayfish
Solid signal has provided the wrong number on their website to activate Dish boxes for years now.
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Nominal
I don't know if things are different with Dish but when I first rejoined DirecTV a few years ago Solid Signal was able to create my account and activate the equipment I got from them on a self-install without a truck roll.
S
Solid signal has provided the wrong number on their website to activate Dish boxes for years now.
1-800-333-3474. billing or tech support should be able to do it!!!
S
Help, I'm a little confjused on the activation process.
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks
just call dish and iggy the number from solid signal!!
Foxbat
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
Foxbat
The only thing I can see that is compelling is the AV1 decoding done in the A19's hardware instead of the current ATV4K's processor.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only stick I with the Apple tv's is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is not worth sticking with it. Later, Apple!
S
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
cpdretired
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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i went into my acct on the hooper and to my offers and everything turned back up as if i was a new customer!!! has anyone tried looking on the my dish app via there hoppers lately.. there was a strange update yesterday affternoon my hopper has never done updates during the day.
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i went into my acct on the hooper and to my offers and everything turned back up as if i was a new customer!!! has anyone tried looking on the my dish app via there hoppers lately.. there was a strange update yesterday affternoon my hopper has never done updates during the day.
Yes the offers are back again.
bookworm370
Yes the offers are back again.
Where? I signed on to Dish and can't find any
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Where? I signed on to Dish and can't find any
what cpdretired said
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ewindowman
Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.
Almighty1
Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.
Never had time to use the Hopper 3 account app yet. I also have a Hopper Plus so it's not the same as the Hopper 3 standalone. Will try it when I have more time, need to beat the taxes extension filing deadline first as I am still working on entering the data into the tax software.
Almighty1
This is what I see when it comes to offers on My Account on the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com:

AMC+ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
AMC+ Free for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
AMC+ 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Cine y Entretenimie 50% off for 3 months

DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

DISH Movie Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

DOGTV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Gallery First Month Free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Heartland Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Mexico y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

MGM+ $0.00/Month not saying how long (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Multi-Sport Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Netflix Standard with Ads, $7.99/month credit toward Netflix Standard with Ads ($.99) month with 24 month DISH commitment
(Only on My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Outdoor Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 50% off for three months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 2 months free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Playboy TV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Republica Dominicana 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

STARZ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
STARZ $1.99/month for 2 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Sudamerica y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

UP Faith & Family 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
look again mine says free for 1 month
jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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K
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
b4pjoe
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
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TheRatPatrol
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Y
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
AZ.
AZ.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Jimbo
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
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AZ.
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Jimbo
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.
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Jimbo
IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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Bobby
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
Bobby
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.
Foxbat
Which is what is interesting, I see the 4KFox channel on 148-01 but we're not subscribed to our Locals. So why it's coming in is puzzling. I thought that maybe it was a perk for Dish subscribers for the MLB Postseason.

I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.
ppappas
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!
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Nebugeater
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF
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Jimbo
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF
IF you were referring to my post ...
Thats why I do all my Streaming Commercial FREE.
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Bobby
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF
And there is a difference between fast forward and skip forwad....
tanman
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.
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Cold Irons
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.
Yep. We do this all the time, but we use the 30-sec skip forward button until the red kangaroo shows up. Love this feature.
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Jim5506
I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.
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