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tdillon

Supporting Founder

Last reply Sep 6, 2009 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

622 max number of local channels is 69?

I have the 622 DVR box hooked up to two 500 dishes pointed at 110, 119 and 129. I also have a high quality Winegard antenna hooked up for the local digital channels. Post DIGITAL CONVERSION, there are now over 80 digital locals available in the greater Los Angeles area just on top of Mt Wilson alone. When I scan the channels on the 622 box it won't recognize any more channels once the channel count gets to 69. (all right, since it adds all of the subchannels to the count at once while scanning a base channel, it will sometimes show 71 or 72 channels in the count, but after the scan if you count what is mapped, it only has 69 channels).
Is this a shortcoming in the amount of memory that the 622 has for channel mapping? On my HDTV using ATSC when I scan the channels I get 84 local digital channels hooked up to the same OTA antenna. I would like the 622 to see the same channels, but it appears that it may not be able to map all of the channels.

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primestar31

Sep 5, 2009

84 FREE local channels!

Tell me why you still have and are paying for Dish Network?

Since the digital changeover, we now only get 4 local channels consistently, and 3 of those are ALL the same network (CBS)! That takes a very large antenna on a 30ft tower, with an amplifier, and a rotor to turn and aim at them...

We LOST a bunch of channels, because of going digital. They all lowered their power so far, it's impossible to receive them anymore.

whatchel1

Sep 5, 2009

Are you sure of that?

I looked up your area in both antennaweb.org & TV fool. I can't find any 80 channels that you state. I think you are confusing channels & sub-channels. What I found was around 30 (and they aren't all coming from Mt. Wilson). Now they may break up to more than 30 since neither of the above show the sub-channels. I fell that some of the channels that you are getting on the DTV box are not really from LA but also from other areas. The thing is the 622 tuner is probably not as sensitive as the OTA box you are talking about. You need to realize that the design of the 622 is several years older than most of the newer OTA boxes. It also has more of a problem with multi-path than maybe your other box does.

tdillon

Sep 5, 2009

It does appear to be a tuner sensitivity problem, instead of a hard count cap. By stepping through each channel and just mapping the subchannels on one base channel at a time I see that the 622 only sees a total of 72 subchannels. When I do a full scan, it must step through the channels faster, and thus only catches 69 of them that way. My tv with an internal tuner is more sensitive and finds 84 total subchannels.

As far as having a lot of free OTA channels, this is an ethnically wide market segment. I don't speak a lot of the languages of the programming available here. Only 12 to 16 of the subchannels contain content that might get viewed in my household.

bebop

Sep 5, 2009

Sounds like you need some more ethnicity in your household

Hall

Sep 6, 2009

I'm pretty sure that channel number assignments for television spectrum stops at 69. Can anyone name a TV station who's broadcast channel is 70 or higher ?

The 622/722/722k all scan for the primary channel assignment number. I get 6 or 7 "stations" but almost 20 "channels".

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osu1991

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Last reply 15 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.

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osu1991

Sunday at 7:39 PM

Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs.

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dishstaller

Sunday at 8:15 PM

osu1991 said:
I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years

That's why I cancelled ours and just started saving the money. We're about to do the same thing with our home insurance.....not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage. We're paying over $5k right now and that is AFTER I dumbed things down...and it keeps going up. Got a couple trees I want to have taken down first before I do that however. After we do that, it will knock about $3k off our annual premium.

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harshness

Yesterday at 10:51 AM

dishstaller said:
not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage.

Other than fire, what other kinds of damage do you guys get down there?

dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:26 AM

harshness said:
Other than fire, what other kinds of damage do you guys get down there?

Not much else. Fire is the only thing I really worry about. I honestly didn't know I could remove wind coverage until someone told that they had....dropped their annual rate from $6,500 to $1,800. I'm currently paying $5,160.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 6:36 PM

dishstaller said:
Not much else. Fire is the only thing I really worry about. I honestly didn't know I could remove wind coverage until someone told that they had....dropped their annual rate from $6,500 to $1,800. I'm currently paying $5,160.

Does the Wind portion cover Hurricanes ?

dishstaller

Yesterday at 8:58 PM

Jimbo said:
Does the Wind portion cover Hurricanes ?

Yes. I covers ANYTHING wind related. If the wind blows down a tree on my roof...that is wind related.
That is why I want to take out a few trees first before I drop it.

I'm not worried about my roof. House was very solidly built and has hurricane straps. I put the metal roof on myself with the help of a friend and I recently replaced all of the outer screws with #12 2 in screws which I also dipped the tip in silicone before driving them in. Any other damage I'll fix myself like I did after Michael gave us a visit in 2018.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:13 PM

dishstaller said:
Yes. I covers ANYTHING wind related. If the wind blows down a tree on my roof...that is wind related.
That is why I want to take out a few trees first before I drop it.

I'm not worried about my roof. House was very solidly built and has hurricane straps. I put the metal roof on myself with the help of a friend and I recently replaced all of the outer screws with #12 2 in screws which I also dipped the tip in silicone before driving them in. Any other damage I'll fix myself like I did after Michael gave us a visit in 2018.

So, the Roof will stay, hopefully the rest of the house stays as well ... if the Hurricane decides to take the house and move it down the street, well at least the roof will go with it !

dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:49 PM

Jimbo said:
So, the Roof will stay, hopefully the rest of the house stays as well ... if the Hurricane decides to take the house and move it down the street, well at least the roof will go with it !

Why be such a smartbutt.
We went through a cat 5 hurricane.....the foundation is sound. Trees hitting the house are the only thing I am worried about when it comes to wind related damage.
IF you had actually been through multiple hurricanes like I have, you would know that most of the damage, unless you were stupid enough to build along the coast.....something ALL of our ancestors knew better than to do, is roof related. In a lot of cases the roof gives way and then the house suffers water damage due to the heavy rain.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 3:01 AM

osu1991 said:
Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs.

have you even been abroad. talk about the cost of health care the whole cost of living in merica is a scam. were taxed to death so bad everyone's a slave to the govt. explore the cost of living in other countries it might blow your mind!!!

AZ.

Today at 7:31 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
have you even been abroad. talk about the cost of health care the whole cost of living in merica is a scam. were taxed to death so bad everyone's a slave to the govt. explore the cost of living in other countries it might blow your mind!!!

Yes and they have healthcare.

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dishstaller

22 minutes ago

AZ. said:
Yes and they have healthcare.

There are some recent videos on Youtube where Americans who left the US for the utopia of Europe are having serious second thoughts and the "free healthcare" is one of the primary things they mention.

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navychop

15 minutes ago

I've had CTs etc within MINUTES of entering an ER (A&E).

In Canada, they publish wait times (months) for CTs. And track the number of deaths of such people while waiting.

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 17 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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nelson61

Yesterday at 12:22 PM

Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:56 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

elon and charlie will have a sat phone network.. i just have a gut feeliing

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MikeD-C05

28 minutes ago

Scott Greczkowski said:
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

So Charlie is going to sell out and give it all the Elon?

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dishstaller

17 minutes ago

MikeD-C05 said:
So Charlie is going to sell out and give it all the Elon?

My opinion: Charlie is getting old and his business is dying, so yes, he'll sell out. His situation is akin to a lone holdout who owns property that a big developer wants.....after a while they give in to the inevitable.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 31 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 5:48 AM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/28/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

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KyL416

Wednesday at 8:31 AM

ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530

coolman302003

Thursday at 5:38 PM

Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN	7:00 PM	7:30 PM	8:00 PM	8:30 PM	9:00 PM	10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSN	Thunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League Pass	None	Pistons (745) @ Hornets	Kings (755) @ Mavericks (756)	Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)	Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)	Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
		Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)	Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)	Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)		Raptors @ Clippers (766)
		Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)	Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)			Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
		Wizards (752) @ Magic
		Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
		*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts	*No Bucks local broadcast			*No Raptors local broadcast

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KyL416

Thursday at 6:56 PM

Only the Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, Avalanche, Sharks and Bruins feeds will be using remaps of 24/7 RSNs that night. The rest will be relying on the part time feeds, including the Nuggets, Blackhawks and Kings who will be on their alt/overflow channels, and MSG Western NY will be live on channel 635-1 to carry Buffalo area ads during the Knicks game.

The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.

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dtv757

Friday at 12:19 AM

I could be wrong but the only RSN we dont have is NBC SN Philadelphia .

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KyL416

Today at 5:48 AM

The Election HQ Mix is now live on channels 71, 200, 202-1, 307-1, 349-1, 356-1 and 360-1, there's also a red button app on CNN, NewsNation, BBC News, NewsMax, CNBC, MS Now, FOX Business and FOX News.

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 5:23 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

TVs are really getting big these days

Was raining yesterday so I went to Sams up in Dothan to stock up on some things. Haven't been there in quite a while. I was amazed at how large most of the TVs were. When I walked in they had a 100 in Vizio (I think it was Vizio) that was marked down to something like $1,200. The first rows of TVs were all in the 80 in + sizes. The next couple of rows had the "smaller" models....those 75 and under. I was amazed at how small the 75s looked when lined up with the larger screens.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 2:45 PM

I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

So, no huge screens for the Foxbat's…

TRG

Yesterday at 3:04 PM

Foxbat said:
I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

So, no huge screens for the Foxbat's…

55" is plenty big.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 3:11 PM

TRG said:
55" is plenty big.

And to think....I was SO proud of myself when I bought a 27 in TV in the late 80s. Everyone just had a 25 in so I was really in high cotton.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 7:20 PM

dishstaller said:
And to think....I was SO proud of myself when I bought a 27 in TV in the late 80s. Everyone just had a 25 in so I was really in high cotton.

I remember buying my 1st Sony .... a whopping Big 27" CRT XBR .... $1200.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 7:39 PM

I bought my 50" Mitsubishi rear projection in 1981!

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 8:51 PM

Jimbo said:
I remember buying my 1st Sony .... a whopping Big 27" CRT XBR .... $1200.

Yep....because they weren't going to get any bigger and the CERTAINLY weren't going to get any cheaper.

I remember MANY years ago I went into Sams Club and saw a thumb drive on sale for $49.88....the storage capacity was a whopping 256mb....yes, MB. I just KNEW that was as cheap as they could ever go and there was simply NO way they could fit any more memory into something that small.

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reubenray

Today at 5:23 AM

I use to have a projector and a 133" screen. I had that house wired just for that screen. Now I have a 75" Sony. If you really want to have the biggest and best check into AWALL CoB MicroLED Display C Series , but you better have a lot of $$$$. I was involved in a group buy with AVSForum for one the first LED TV's. The TV's has changed a lot since then.

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 3:13 AM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

DirecTV’s Subscribers Number

Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-rates-directv-proposed-senior-secured-debt-offering-bb-rr2-11-05-2026

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raoul5788

May 19, 2026

They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo. Edit: And I've been a Directv customer for 30 years!

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b4pjoe

May 19, 2026

raoul5788 said:
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo.

Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Jimbo

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

YouTube TV

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raoul5788

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.

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Arctic_fox

Jun 12, 2026

Jimbo said:
YouTube TV

YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

Jimbo

Jun 12, 2026

Arctic_fox said:
YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

RSN's ... are they still Alive ?

Unless your looking for the Non Major sports,,they are pretty pointless.

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b4pjoe

Jun 12, 2026

raoul5788 said:
Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.

I see Fubo is getting the NBC Universal channels back. That will help them.

NBCUniversal Channels Like Telemundo and Bravo Are Returning to Fubo

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Arctic_fox

Jun 12, 2026

Jimbo said:
RSN's ... are they still Alive ?

Unless your looking for the Non Major sports,,they are pretty pointless.

NESN and spectrum sportsnet is i don't know about the others

raoul5788

Jun 13, 2026

b4pjoe said:
I see Fubo is getting the NBC Universal channels back. That will help them.
NBCUniversal Channels Like Telemundo and Bravo Are Returning to Fubo

And my package is going up $15/month!

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Arctic_fox

Jun 13, 2026

raoul5788 said:
And my package is going up $15/month!

have you tried to call in and threaten to cancel and see how that works out??? have you tried going back onto directv.com and making a new acct for discounts posing as a new sub.. it worked for me when ATT destroyed it :biggrin

raoul5788

Jun 14, 2026

Arctic_fox said:
have you tried to call in and threaten to cancel and see how that works out??? have you tried going back onto directv.com and making a new acct for discounts posing as a new sub.. it worked for me when ATT destroyed it

I got a big discount for returning.

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Jimbo

Jun 19, 2026

raoul5788 said:
I got a big discount for returning.

When I( talked with them a few weeks ago, they called me.
They offered me the Choice package (I had the Ultimate) (I also wasn't in from of my computer , so I couldn't check things out)
I figured if they could beat $80, I'd listen ... her best offer was $120, PASS...

The package I HAD with Sat was costing me $140 ... again HARD PASS.

Arctic_fox

Jun 20, 2026

Jimbo said:
When I( talked with them a few weeks ago, they called me.
They offered me the Choice package (I had the Ultimate) (I also wasn't in from of my computer , so I couldn't check things out)
I figured if they could beat $80, I'd listen ... her best offer was $120, PASS...

The package I HAD with Sat was costing me $140 ... again HARD PASS.

they offered me the new customer deals and a 300.00 prepaid visa to leave DISH along there were going to waive the 49.00 activation fee

, the deal breaker was id'e be stuck with an HR-54 and not an HS-17. and there's no more wired gemini's for new subs or that's what i was told. and billing and tech support is still in the ATT eco system

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navychop

Jun 20, 2026

Leaving Hopper Land for buggy whips?

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Jimbo

Jun 21, 2026

Arctic_fox said:
they offered me the new customer deals and a 300.00 prepaid visa to leave DISH along there were going to waive the 49.00 activation fee , the deal breaker was id'e be stuck with an HR-54 and not an HS-17. and there's no more wired gemini's for new subs or that's what i was told. and billing and tech support is still in the ATT eco system

Personally, IF I ever went back with Sat, I would definitely take the HR54 ... but each set up is different from house to house, what works for you ... in reality, I would probably go streaming instead, as my needs have changed, I no longer need a portable recvr to use while camping.

Don in CT

Jun 24, 2026

Arctic_fox said:
NESN and spectrum sportsnet is i don't know about the others

I doubt NESN is doing great with the Sox in the tank.

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Bruce

Friday at 1:58 PM

Bruce said:
Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-rates-directv-proposed-senior-secured-debt-offering-bb-rr2-11-05-2026

New numbers are out-

DIRECTV was the third-largest U.S. traditional multichannel video programming distributor (MVPD) with about 8.0 million subscribers at the end of 2Q2026

Still an average of 200,000 lost per quarter ( for the last four quarters), less than Dish/Sling, which lost 241,000 in the second quarter, 366,000 in the first quarter.

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-affirms-directv-idr-at-bb-outlook-stable-29-10-2026

slow_poke_pete

Today at 3:13 AM

navychop said:
Leaving Hopper Land for buggy whips?

no the hopper makes me stick along with customer service with dish has been much better than DTV wich there customer service completely sucks..

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