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This is sort of a long story, so please bear with me.....
Up 'till now, I've had a Dish 500 legacy twin, with the two feeds routed directly to a 301 and a 6000. Back in January, in anticipation of buying a 921, I ordered a DP-34 and a DP Twin, so that I could have four feeds from the 500 (301, 6000 with legacy adaptor, 921x2). I never hooked the new equipment up until this weekend (after having bought a......ahem......$839 921!). I still haven't activated the 921 (and may not after today's news), mostly because of the way the 301 is behaving.
A "check switch" shows everything to be OK, but if you go to the "Point Dish" screen, many transponders are showing "0" signal. If you throw out the spot beams and HD transponders, it boils down to these:
119 transponders 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, and 16.
110 transponders 12, 14, and 16.
The one thing these all have in common is left-hand polarity, although some TP's with left-hand polarity on each sat are working fine.
I called Dish Tech Support, and they had me hook up direct to the LNB (bypassing the DP-34) to rule out the switch as the problem. I did this, using both sides of the LNB, and had the same results, except I did get a signal on a couple of spot beams I couldn't get with the switch. At that point they were ready to blame the LNB. I asked them if this LNB (CCS9601, Lot # G211) was in the bad batch I'd heard about; they said no, and that my only recourse was to try to get it exchanged by the retailer (Dishstore.net).
Now, here comes the kicker. I then hooked up the 6000 and Legacy adaptor through the DP-34, and it worked absolutely perfectly - every TP got a good, strong signal!
I'm beginning to think that maybe the 301 is bad, but it was working fine with the legacy Twin. One thing I didn't try, and probably should have, is a power cord reboot. I will try that after I remount my dish on Friday (I'm coincidentally having some stucco work done this week, and took it down last night).
Anybody have any ideas?
Brad
Up 'till now, I've had a Dish 500 legacy twin, with the two feeds routed directly to a 301 and a 6000. Back in January, in anticipation of buying a 921, I ordered a DP-34 and a DP Twin, so that I could have four feeds from the 500 (301, 6000 with legacy adaptor, 921x2). I never hooked the new equipment up until this weekend (after having bought a......ahem......$839 921!). I still haven't activated the 921 (and may not after today's news), mostly because of the way the 301 is behaving.
A "check switch" shows everything to be OK, but if you go to the "Point Dish" screen, many transponders are showing "0" signal. If you throw out the spot beams and HD transponders, it boils down to these:
119 transponders 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, and 16.
110 transponders 12, 14, and 16.
The one thing these all have in common is left-hand polarity, although some TP's with left-hand polarity on each sat are working fine.
I called Dish Tech Support, and they had me hook up direct to the LNB (bypassing the DP-34) to rule out the switch as the problem. I did this, using both sides of the LNB, and had the same results, except I did get a signal on a couple of spot beams I couldn't get with the switch. At that point they were ready to blame the LNB. I asked them if this LNB (CCS9601, Lot # G211) was in the bad batch I'd heard about; they said no, and that my only recourse was to try to get it exchanged by the retailer (Dishstore.net).
Now, here comes the kicker. I then hooked up the 6000 and Legacy adaptor through the DP-34, and it worked absolutely perfectly - every TP got a good, strong signal!
I'm beginning to think that maybe the 301 is bad, but it was working fine with the legacy Twin. One thing I didn't try, and probably should have, is a power cord reboot. I will try that after I remount my dish on Friday (I'm coincidentally having some stucco work done this week, and took it down last night).
Anybody have any ideas?
Brad
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OK, I had a chance to do all of this this weekend. After the power-down reboot, the 301 still wouldn't recognize any of the TP's that failed before. The 6000 is still working fine.
I plugged in the 921 and got to the "point dish" screen. I'm not familiar with what this looks like when everything is working right, but here's what I saw:
At first, with tuner 1 on 119, I was only seeing TP's 11 thru 21. If I tried to go down from 11, it went to 21. It would go up from 11 to 12 and so on, and all seemed fine on those TP's. I then switched to tuner 2, and the TP window switched (on its own) to #1. I then went up through all the numbers, and got signal on all except spotbeam #9. Here's the thing, though. After I got past 11 on the way up, it no longer allowed me to go down past 11 again. Switching back and forth between tuner 1 and tuner 2 didn't ever help again.
110 was basically the same; IIRC it only allowed me to see TP's 21 thru 31, which is FEWER than I was seeing with the 301.
Is it fair, at this time, to blame the LNBF? Has anyone seen this kind of behavior with a 921 "Point Dish" screen? Why would the 6000 work if the other two don't (it sees the DP twin/DP-34 as an SW-64)?
Thanks again, Jason and Simon, for your help.
Brad
nippjas said:
OK, I had a chance to do all of this this weekend. After the power-down reboot, the 301 still wouldn't recognize any of the TP's that failed before. The 6000 is still working fine.
I plugged in the 921 and got to the "point dish" screen. I'm not familiar with what this looks like when everything is working right, but here's what I saw:
At first, with tuner 1 on 119, I was only seeing TP's 11 thru 21. If I tried to go down from 11, it went to 21. It would go up from 11 to 12 and so on, and all seemed fine on those TP's. I then switched to tuner 2, and the TP window switched (on its own) to #1. I then went up through all the numbers, and got signal on all except spotbeam #9. Here's the thing, though. After I got past 11 on the way up, it no longer allowed me to go down past 11 again. Switching back and forth between tuner 1 and tuner 2 didn't ever help again.
110 was basically the same; IIRC it only allowed me to see TP's 21 thru 31, which is FEWER than I was seeing with the 301.
Is it fair, at this time, to blame the LNBF? Has anyone seen this kind of behavior with a 921 "Point Dish" screen? Why would the 6000 work if the other two don't (it sees the DP twin/DP-34 as an SW-64)?
Thanks again, Jason and Simon, for your help.
Brad
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
www.tvtechnology.com
Pearl TV Issues Progress Report on Low-Cost 3.0 Converters in Advance of NAB Show New York
Group has secured lower pricing from key tech players to make less costly boxes available
www.tvtechnology.com
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.
There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.
There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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Susan Saint James, Emmy-Winning Star of ‘Kate & Allie’ and ‘McMillan & Wife,’ Dies at 80
Susan Saint James, the Emmy-winning actress who starred in "Kate & Allie," died Monday after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. She was 80.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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. can we say over priced garbage!!!
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I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:
https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html
Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)
If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html
Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)
If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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Two new Bonus View channels Added today:
And two Removed:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
Thanks to Pat for the heads up.
And two Removed:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
Thanks to Pat for the heads up.
T
One Bonus View channel added today. And one correction (on my part):
One Removed:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.
Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.
One Removed:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.
Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.
T
Three new Bonus View channels today:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.
Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?
Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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