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Last reply Nov 18, 2004 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Earnings Conference Call and reported HD Plans...

Join us tomorrow (11/9) at noon for EchoStar Communications Corp. Q3 2004 Earnings Conference Call!

We'll have the chat room open @ http://chat.satelliteguys.us to discuss the conference call as it happens live.

To listen to the conference click here: http://biz.yahoo.com/cc/8/49108.html

Interesting news that is reported will also be posted in this thread, so you can check back here if you can't make it.

There will be lots of talk about RPU and SACs so it should be fun

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Stever1

Nov 18, 2004

It seems to me that I recall that the new Scenium DLP's have an HDMI connector and 2 Firewire ports and that they also sell an HD-PVR that connects to the Firewire port. I understand that you can feed the set through the HDMI connector and the set will output HD through the Firewire port to the HD-PVR. BTW, the set also has a high-speed Ethernet (NetConnect) port and a built in browser (IE, running on Windows CE).

Here's a link to the DLP set with Firewire "DTVLink" (Scenium model# HD44LPW165). This one is 44", and there's also a 50" and 61" model. It has a Digital Cable Ready tuner (with CableCard slot), as well as OTA (ATSC) tuner:
http://www.rca.com/product/viewdetail/1,2588,PI701111-CI700294,00.html?

Here's the link to the HD-DVR (Scenium model# DVR-10): http://www.rca.com/product/viewdetail/1,2588,PI700686-CI700335,00.html?

Soooo, would this be an alternative to a 921, or 942 for that matter. Seems like it might be the best of all worlds. It wouldn't matter where you're getting your HD content, OTA, CableCard, Dish, Voom, DirecTV, etc., you wouldn't need a specific content provider's proprietary DVR with this combo, would you? Or am I missing something? The promo material for the DVR (see 2nd link) lists this as a selling feature (i.e. the TV outputs HD content being sent to it, out to the DVR via DTVLink to be recorded for future viewing). Has anyone seen, or tried this hardware, and does it work as advertised? I would consider this as a viable alternative to getting locked into any one media vendor's hardware.

Unthinkable

Nov 18, 2004

jsanders said:
Your asking me if the boxes are active? It seems unthinkable, Unthnkable, that someone who is making an argument would ask the other guy for the burden of proof.

Anyway, here is your proof, an article from the October, 2004 issue of PCWorld:
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,117346,pg,1,00.asp

Here are a couple of blurps from that article:

"The PC World Test Center in San Francisco has a Comcast set-top box for TV testing; its FireWire ports work (for now), but Comcast may disable them."

Here is the MPAAs view on all of this:
"The MPAA has pressed hard to restrict unfettered access to HD signals, fearing massive losses should content end up on the Internet. The group has even lobbied Congress to mandate that component-out ports--the only available HD connections on millions of HDTVs--be dumbed down to standard definition (SD) TV levels to prevent unauthorized copying."

I really hope that the MPAA doesn't manage to get component out ports dumbed down! The funny thing is that won't prevent unauthorized copying, it will just mean the copy isn't the same quality as the broadcast. You need a real time HD MPEG encoder for that anyway, I haven't seen one of those yet.

Anyway, according to that same article, the FCC REQUIRES Firewire on cable boxes!

"In April the FCC began requiring that cable operators provide set-top boxes with FireWire outputs--a welcome development even if these ports will likely be encumbered with copy protection. However, the 8000HD set-top box likely won't receive a firmware update to enable its FireWire outputs until the end of this year or early next. Even then it will continue to bug me that I have to watch HD shows on someone else's schedule."

This copy protection they are talking about is that broadcast flag I mentioned earlier.

Regardless, if the FCC requires it, then I don't think comcast will disable their ports....

I have provided enough proof to support my argument Unthinkable, I don't think your argument has any credibility.

No need to be a wiseass. Nothing I've ever posted towards you to date has ever been condescending or inflammatory to the degree you've done above. My contention was that I bet the MPAA had threatened Dish with potential lawsuits along with DirecTV, Comcast, and all the other major cable/sat players not to enable firewire ports that could allow a one-for-one digital copy of an HD program. Seems pretty commonplace that a whole lot of firewire ports aren't currently active on HD DVR's with all different multichannel providers right now from what I'm reading. Exactly what part of this assertion have you proven has no credibility so far? Like I said, I read through various threads last night where not one person posted they had a working firewire port on their HD Motorola Comcast boxes so how does this warrant Dish Network being singled out for being the only provider in town damning their subscribers with lies, lies, and more Charlie Ergen despises you to lies again?
Hell, you posted this on the 11th:

Comcast leases you a receiver that has firewire outputs, and people can archive to tape with it, why don't they sue them?

I'm not finding any people that are currently transferring HD programs from their hard drive to tape at the moment through firewire with these receivers. Maybe some folks are doing it with software and hardware hacks here and there, but it doesn't appear at all to be a common everyday practice even though you seemed to assert it was in stating it this way. I have yet to see anything posted so far that suggests Hollywood as an entity didn't threaten impending legal consequences to providers which offered HD solutions which included active firewire ports which is what I posted previously. All were really establishing here is that copy protection is everything to the MPAA and that they want controls over every output when it comes to HD movies, films, and shows. I'm well aware of the HD broadcast flags imbedded within datastreams set to restrict recordings to a limited degree of options, but I haven't heard they are being utilized by any of the major networks yet. The downrezzing of an HD signal through analog component video to prevent perfect HD copies and protect the future HD-DVD marketplace has been talked about for a long, long time now as well.

Paradox-SJ

Nov 18, 2004

mwgiii said:
So my $1000 921, which now sells for $549, will be totally useless next year for the new HD channels.

True but you dont have to worry about Charlie adding any new HD channels as there isn't anything out there that is compelling? :yes

jsanders

Nov 18, 2004

Unthinkable said:
No need to be a wiseass. Nothing I've ever posted towards you to date has ever been condescending or inflammatory to the degree you've done above.

I did not say anything inflamatory to you, I said that I didn't think your argument had credibility. I didn't say anything about you not having any credibility. There is a big difference. I didn't call you names either. You, on the other hand, have done this.

Unthinkable said:
My contention was that I bet the MPAA had threatened Dish with potential lawsuits along with DirecTV, Comcast, and all the other major cable/sat players not to enable firewire ports that could allow a one-for-one digital copy of an HD program. Seems pretty commonplace that a whole lot of firewire ports aren't currently active on HD DVR's with all different multichannel providers right now from what I'm reading. Exactly what part of this assertion have you proven has no credibility so far? Like I said, I read through various threads last night where not one person posted they had a working firewire port on their HD Motorola Comcast boxes so how does this warrant Dish Network being singled out for being the only provider in town damning their subscribers with lies, lies, and more Charlie Ergen despises you to lies again?

If you "bet" the MPAA threatend lawsuits, then prove it. If you don't have evidence to support your claim, then drop it.

Unthinkable said:
I'm not finding any people that are currently transferring HD programs from their hard drive to tape at the moment through firewire with these receivers. Maybe some folks are doing it with software and hardware hacks here and there, but it doesn't appear at all to be a common everyday practice even though you seemed to assert it was in stating it this way. I have yet to see anything posted so far that suggests Hollywood as an entity didn't threaten impending legal consequences to providers which offered HD solutions which included active firewire ports which is what I posted previously. All were really establishing here is that copy protection is everything to the MPAA and that they want controls over every output when it comes to HD movies, films, and shows. I'm well aware of the HD broadcast flags imbedded within datastreams set to restrict recordings to a limited degree of options, but I haven't heard they are being utilized by any of the major networks yet. The downrezzing of an HD signal through analog component video to prevent perfect HD copies and protect the future HD-DVD marketplace has been talked about for a long, long time now as well.

Okay, you want me to give examples of people using their firewire ports to archive HDTV??

First, the link I posted previously from PC World said that the firewire ports ARE active. If that doesn't satisfy you, then this article should:

This is from the washington post, August 29th 2004. Here, Jim Hawk reviews the comcast DVR with a JVC DVHS deck. In it, his first box did not work, the second one did, and he has no problem recording from the DVR to tape.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40786-2004Aug28.html

Would you like more examples??

Not only are people using the 6200 to record to tape, they are using it to record to the hard drives on their PC or their Mac. Apparently it is easier to do on the Mac though. Here is a quote, and a link. There are discussion boards that explain in more detail about how to do it:

"I've had a DCT 6200 box from Comcast for about 2 months now and have been able to make recordings off it over its firewire connection since I got it. The only thing you have to check for is that the firmware of the box is at least 7.07 and preferably at 7.10. Once that's set, you can record HD (1080i, 720p, 480p) or SD (regular 480i) content alike to any Mac with a firewire connection and the VirtualDHVS software from Apple. You'll also need the AVCBrowser tool that comes with the FW SDK to properly setup the 6200 to record, it involves prepping the proper channel number on the FW bus for VDHVS. You can find all the info and discussion on this thread I started at AVSForum, as well as this more Mac-centric one."

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040426151111599

Here is the thread from the AVS forum:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=353608&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

To wrap it up, there doesn't appear to be any legal reason for Dish to drop firewire.

There is an FCC mandate (April, 2004) that states all cable set top boxes must have firewire available for a consumer that wants it.

Comcast leases these boxes to their cable customers. The firewire ports work, and customers are able to record to DVHS, or even a hard drive on a computer! Comcast also allows that same user with a "perfect digital copy" of that program on their computer's hard drive to use Comcast as an ISP for high speed internet, with the possibility that they might break the law and make that copyrighted content available for download. Yet, even with all of that, Comcast isn't being sued by the MPAA.

There is a broadcast flag that is designed to prevent unauthorized use of copyrighted material.

I have provided enough proof to support my argument Unthinkable, I don't think your argument has any credibility. Please give it up.

nippjas

Nov 18, 2004

OK guys grab a shower and cool off....Closing....

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MartyDe

Last reply 2 minutes ago · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

ATSC 3 converter boxes

Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.

Pearl TV Issues Progress Report on Low-Cost 3.0 Converters in Advance of NAB Show New York

Group has secured lower pricing from key tech players to make less costly boxes available

www.tvtechnology.com

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navychop

Oct 20, 2026

DEATH TO NEXGEN!

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primestar31

Oct 21, 2026

navychop said:
DEATH TO NEXGEN!

It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.

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Mister B

Thursday at 7:43 AM

What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

navychop

Thursday at 4:31 PM

Mister B said:
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.

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navychop

Thursday at 4:31 PM

Mister B said:
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 5:37 PM

primestar31 said:
It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.

WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.

navychop

Yesterday at 9:47 PM

Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh

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Foxbat

2 minutes ago

navychop said:
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

That would be handy. Download the latest RNA snippets that can be updated over 5G and no more shots! You're a Genius!

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 38 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Is it click bait or is it real

Pretty cool.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18iLQXklJuU

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Foxbat

38 minutes ago

Meta Clickbait, clicking and watching the Video on Clickbait.

dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 40 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Well crap....Donnie Iris died today

RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5Arbm47IQ

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 1:03 AM

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmPEgNuELM

FTA4PA

Yesterday at 10:20 AM

R.I.P.

Mr Tony

Yesterday at 10:28 AM

R.I.P.

Foxbat

40 minutes ago

Rest in Peace…

osu1991

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply 42 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Susan Saint James, Emmy-Winning Star of 'Kate & Allie' and 'McMillan & Wife,' Dies at 80

Susan Saint James, Emmy-Winning Star of ‘Kate & Allie’ and ‘McMillan & Wife,’ Dies at 80

Susan Saint James, the Emmy-winning actress who starred in "Kate & Allie," died Monday after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. She was 80.

variety.com

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FTA4PA

Yesterday at 8:53 PM

R.I.P.

dishstaller

Today at 10:09 AM

My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP

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dfergie

Today at 1:03 PM

Mcmillan and wife was where I remember her from, R.I.P. ...

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Mr Tony

Today at 1:18 PM

R.I.P.

Foxbat

42 minutes ago

Rest in Peace… I had forgotten she was Kate in "Kate and Allie", teamed with Jane Curtin.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 47 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Bobby

Today at 11:20 AM

If Love Must Go - Dobie Gray

FTA4PA

Today at 1:58 PM

Drift Away - Dobie Gray

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Today at 3:24 PM

Throwing It All Away - Genesis

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Today at 4:47 PM

All I Need is a Miracle - Mike + The Mechanics

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Sweet Miracle - Rush

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TheForce

Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply Today at 5:39 PM · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.

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Foxbat

Sunday at 7:05 PM

IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

slow_poke_pete

Sunday at 8:32 PM

Foxbat said:
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00

. can we say over priced garbage!!!

slow_poke_pete

Monday at 4:36 PM

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harshness

Yesterday at 10:17 AM

Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 11:49 AM

harshness said:
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"

slow_poke_pete

Today at 5:39 PM

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 5:32 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Intelligent Machines 894

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSBKxtzFi0Y

Direct YouTube Link - Intelligent Machines 894
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

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tparker

Last reply Today at 5:17 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

"Bonus View" Channel List

I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.

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tparker

Sep 3, 2026

Paranormal Files back in business:

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tparker

Sep 23, 2026

Two new Bonus View channels Added today:

And two Removed:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the heads up.

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tparker

Sep 30, 2026

One Bonus View channel added today. And one correction (on my part):

One Removed:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.

Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.

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tparker

Oct 21, 2026

Three new Bonus View channels today:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.

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tparker

Today at 5:17 PM

Four Bonus View channels removed today:

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Van

Last reply Today at 5:06 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

Whats for breakfast?

Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.

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TRG

Thursday at 4:10 PM

2 egg burrito with bacon and a side of hashbrowns. Coffee.

TRG

Sunday at 1:40 PM

Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.

Bobby

Today at 1:53 PM

Taco omelette. 3 eggs, taco meat from yesterday, diced green chilis, cheddar cheese, chopped red onion, avocado, black olives, chopped tomato, La Victoria Salsa Brava.

This one was really, really good!

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dfergie

Today at 3:35 PM

Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)

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TRG

Today at 5:06 PM

dfergie said:
Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)

I had a chorizo and egg burrito for you. With lots of green chile and cheese of course.

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Peter Parker

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 3:56 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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Almighty1

Oct 20, 2026

So after some heavy research, it looks like the issue I mentioned with the DISH 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes where on the 50.0/52.0 remotes, the dedicated TV Power button or on the 54.x remotes where it is using the TV button on the side followed by Power works correctly on a Hopper 3 which runs Linux but not on a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 which are Android TV (ATV) has to do with the Android TV software itself. In all instances, the remotes had always sent out a dual RF and Infrared signal when the TV Power signal is sent from the remote. The Hopper 3 without the Plus would ignore the incoming RF power packet signal which is identified as a TV-specific toggle event, and does not trigger a system-wide standby state. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 as Android TV devices initially worked the same way as well up to sometime in 2025 as there was the legacy pass-through mode in the original software versions used since the Hopper Plus/Joey 4/Wireless Joey 4 launch, the receiver's underlying software essentially ignored the secondary RF payload that the 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes blasted out whenever the TV Power signal was sent. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 recognized it was a TV-specific command and discarded the RF packet, letting the standalone IR signal do its job on the tv.

When the software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 were updated in 2025 and newer versions of the software for those Android TV (ATV) devices, it overhauled how the receiver handles remote commands to tighter integrate the Android TV environment which resulted in the software starting to treat any RF power toggle payload as a global command. As the newer software verion(s) no longer filters out the concurrent RF blast from the 50.0/52.0/54.0 remotes, the moment one sends a TV Power signal from the remote, the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 catches that unintended RF payloadand interpets it as a command to drop the system into standby.

The fix is really simple since the Android TV (ATV) software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 just needs to be programmed to drop or ignore the specific RF power packets associated with the TV Power signal sequence.

The problem could also be at the remotes firmware as the remote's firmware has an engineering defect. When you try to turn off the TV, the remote's internal code mistakenly triggers its RF transmitter alongside its IR transmitter. It should only be firing the IR light blast. Because it forces a simultaneous broadcast, the remote's firmware is the original source of the problem.

The Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey firmware has a filtering defect. Good software design dictating peripheral inputs should include "error handling"—rules that tell the system what to do with messy or unintended commands.
• The legacy Hopper 3 firmware has proper error handling; it sees the remote's rogue RF packet and safely ignores it.
• The Android TV firmware in the Hopper Plu, Joey 4 and Wireless lacks this filtering logic. It blindly accepts the rogue RF packet and misinterprets it as a legitimate signal to force the entire system into standby.

If the remote didn't have a firmware bug, it wouldn't send the phantom RF signal. If the Android TV (ATV) device being the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 didn't have a firmware bug, it would cleanly ignore the signal just like the Hopper 3 does.

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

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rvvaquero

Oct 21, 2026

That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.

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GRB1959

Oct 21, 2026

rvvaquero said:
That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.

This is exactly the same issue I was having as I had the Hopper 3 and 54 remote without the Hopper Plus and the symptoms were virtually identical to yours.

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ERSanders

Oct 21, 2026

We have had a corolary problem in this and the prior s/w. Using several different 40.0 remotes (yeah, we're old), when one pauses a live or recorded show it becomes a crap shoot whether it will step foreward the 30" as requested, jump to the end, or restart the episode. Tried the famous 60" reboot to no avail and have decided to live with it vs. a receiver swap risk.

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tpribors

Today at 3:56 PM

I think there's a change to the "skip forward 30 seconds". With CBS that does not have auto-skip, if you stack up a bunch of 30 second forwards it seems to stop when the kangaroo signaling the end of the commercial break appears.

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