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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Save money buying your own receiver?

I have a

VIP 722 and a
322

I would like to replace the 322 and get a HD receiver that will do 1 HD and 1 SD TV. i don't think there is a non DVR HD receiver that will do two TV's is there?

But anyway would i save any money buying a receiver? The receiver i have now are hooked to a phone line so don't get any fees.


I think dish only wanted $75 for a HD receiver but it comes with a DVR that i don't want so if i bought one through dish my bill would go up $5 or $7 for the DVR fee i think?

BTW is the DISH Network Vip 722 the best dish has still?
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Bob Haller
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sadly look at the bugs the 722k has currently and its a old model.

at least my 625s are stable
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My 322 receiver wend bad and they just send me VIP 222 receiver as replacement so I just got upgraded for free. i think you should give it a try.
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whatchel1
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Old?

Bob Haller said:
sadly look at the bugs the 722k has currently and its a old model.

at least my 625s are stable
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What you mean old the 722k has only been out a few months?
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So the end result is that you would have two 722s. I would not purchase a 722 for the following reasons:

You will be billed the same
Dish is going to bill you the same regardless of if you owned or leased the 722s. You are saving no money.

Early Termination Concerns are a wash
If you do lease however, Dish is probably going to ding you with a new two year commitment (or is it 3 years now?). So if you did purchase, you would have the ease of being able to drop Dish at your convenience without paying a an early termination fee (ETF). You would then have the burden of trying to sell your 722 to get the money back. If you look at it though, lets say you leased and then you had to back out and Dish dinged you with an ETF, the fee would probably be in and around what you would have purchased the 722 for anyway; so, with leasing you still would not be too far behind compared to purchasing. The ETF is prorated too, so if you terminated things late in the contract, the ETF fee will be lower.

Losing money on a purchase over time
Lets say you get a 722 for $300 (insert any dollar value here). After 2 years, you are out $300. With leasing, after two years, you are out zero dollars. You could have used that $300 for additional programming ... or whatever.

Warranty issues
Also, with leasing, if it dies ... Dish replaces it for the shipping cost ... with a purchase, you need to cover the whole replacement.

With a low receiver count ... leasing is the only way to go in my books ...


Now, if you wanted to keep your 322, then you would have to purchase, because I believe Dish only allows 4 leased "tuners". You can have more, you just need to purchase the rest.
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Jim5506
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A couple of weeks back I did an analysis of purchasing vs leasing and found that todays lease fees are low enough that subtracting the purchase cost of a receiver from the eBay selling price 2 years later showed leasing was actually cheaper than purchasing in almost every instance.

The difference wasn't great, usually about $25-50 but purchasing always came up short.
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Agonizing Fury
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Jim5506 said:
A couple of weeks back I did an analysis of purchasing vs leasing and found that todays lease fees are low enough that subtracting the purchase cost of a receiver from the eBay selling price 2 years later showed leasing was actually cheaper than purchasing in almost every instance.

The difference wasn't great, usually about $25-50 but purchasing always came up short.
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I think you failed to keep in mind that if you buy, instead of a receiver lease fee, you pay the same amount for some kind of receiver programming fee.

For example: If I lease a 625 and a 301 receiver, the 301 is not the primary receiver on my account, so I would pay $5 extra on my bill for it. The lease costs (but not the DVR cost) of the 625 is included in the mothly rate for the package you have. If I were to disable and return the 301, then purchase one online and have it activated to the account, my bill would not change. Instead of the $5 lease fee, I would paying some other $5 fee for having another receiver with programming. Perhaps someone who owns a receiver can chime in with what dish calls this fee because I don't see it often enough to remember what they call it.
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The Diplomat (Netflix)

Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
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One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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klang said:
Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.
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Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/28/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

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Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

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11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM9:00 PM10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSNThunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League PassNonePistons (745) @ HornetsKings (755) @ Mavericks (756)Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)Raptors @ Clippers (766)
Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
Wizards (752) @ Magic
Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts*No Bucks local broadcast*No Raptors local broadcast
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Only the Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, Avalanche, Sharks and Bruins feeds will be using remaps of 24/7 RSNs that night. The rest will be relying on the part time feeds, including the Nuggets, Blackhawks and Kings who will be on their alt/overflow channels, and MSG Western NY will be live on channel 635-1 to carry Buffalo area ads during the Knicks game.

The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
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I could be wrong but the only RSN we dont have is NBC SN Philadelphia .
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