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Hello Satellite masters!
I have been reading this site for quite some time, and admiring the knowledge here.
I know next to nothing about satellite but I am in a situation where I need to ask some questions. If there is a newbie section, I am happy to post there, just let me know.

Basically, I have been subscribing to cable for years, and now I just bought a house and have to make a decision. I have the option of getting cable/internet/phone from the big provider, or getting dish network, or direct-TV, or installing a mac-mini on my TV, or getting a pansat or other box, I just don't know what I should do!

I am pretty well decided that I will get cable internet, because it is just the fastest. At least I can decide on that. As far a phone goes, I like to have a landline for the fax, so I don't mind getting an internet/phone package. It's the cable TV that kills me.

The cable service has offered me a $139 deal for a year, that includes super high speed internet, phone and cable with all channels and movie channels. That price will jack up to near $200 once the first year is over, but no contract as far as I know.

I am trying to get TV Japan. That channel is only available on dish network in my area, and costs $25 just for that one channel which is a very high price in my opinion.
I called dish network and spoke with them, also I have read many forum posts, and I get conflicting reports. Some seem to love it, others hate it. If the price is too high, I guess that I will forget about TV Japan and just try to get the most channels and highest quality for the best price.

I guess what I'm asking for is some guidance from you all who really know what you are doing. Is DishNetwork a worthwhile investment, or should I invest in a Pansat box and try to get FTA savvy? Or is cable even still a good choice?

I know that everyone is different, but if the technology is there, I don't want to spend $150+ per month, I just can't justify the cost anymore. Thank you for your opinions, links and any advice. Thank you so much in advance!
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AcWxRadar
The cable service has offered me a $139 deal for a year, that includes super high speed internet, phone and cable with all channels and movie channels. That price will jack up to near $200 once the first year is over, but no contract as far as I know.

Tiger,

I assume that you mean the price per month in this case for telephone, internet and cable. If it is a price per annum, then it would be a no brainer! LOL!

After the first year, $200 per month is still not too bad of a price. I don't know what the cable TV service quality is like, but High Speed DSL internet and telephone service AND cable service at that price might just be quite competitive.

I pay $45 for cellular telephone service and $49 for Wild Blue internet over satellite alone, with no cable or satellite TV service other than FTA.

I don't watch that much TV, so I WON'T pay for a subscription as it would simply go to waste. If it were not for this hobby of FTA, I wouldn't need the internet. But, you almost must have a telephone. My cell phone is important to me because of my commute to work and for emergencies, but I might be able to get by without that, too.

What I am saying is that all of these are luxuries. You must define which ones you truly want (or need) the most.

However, I would definitely take FTA over the cable TV service in my area any day. For free, I get better programming, better news and some sports than my Mom or my brother does for $60/month.

I think you could find at least one or two Japanese channels on FTA, although the specific channel you mentioned earlier may not be in there.

When I retire, I just might turn off my telephone service, throw the phone in the river, sell my TV and sign off the internet and live in a quaint log cabin in the woods somewhere in Alaska (uhmm.. no, too cold in winter... maybe Wyoming or Montana). :rolleyes:

Well, maybe Missouri, Arkansas or Florida... Hmmm. I haven't decided just yet. Maybe Australia??? :D

RADAR
madmadworld
I don't watch that much TV,
RADAR


what ? lol
AcWxRadar
what ? lol

Absolutely! I usually put in a DVD and watch the opening theme from the movie and then turn it off, that is all I need, you can tell most of the show by the opening theme music anyway. The rest of the time, I am chatting with you all, I am at work, fishing on the river, drinking beer or mowing grass (Oh, once in a while I try to sleep, too).

LOL!!! :D
madmadworld
you pulling my leg

Absolutely! I usually put in a DVD and watch the opening theme from the movie and then turn it off, that is all I need, you can tell most of the show by the opening theme music anyway. The rest of the time, I am chatting with you all, I am at work, fishing on the river, drinking beer or mowing grass (Oh, once in a while I try to sleep, too).

LOL!!! :D

i want to believe you. but knowing it's you.
as my dad would say: you pulling my leg?

dual tuners
15 coolsat boxes LOL


sorry back to Tiger
but you said
I have been reading this site for quite some time.
how long ?
and what interests you ?
AcWxRadar
i want to believe you. but knowing it's you.
as my dad would say: you pulling my leg?

My Dad always said "Come here and pull my finger". HA!

You are good to suggest that we get back on track of the OP's topic, however. We kinda got off the topic here, but it is always good to interject some humor and a little lighthearted discussion from time to time.

Tiger, I am hoping that this makes you feel comfortable and at home.

RADAR
delta_charlie
Hi all, I have just a little to add. NHK is available FTA on Intelsat at 58 W but it is on C-Band so not very practical for someone just getting into FTA.

A couple of notes on phone service, if you are going to get broadband then you might want to consider VOIP phone instead of plain old telephone service (POTS) Vonage in the biggest and most known but there are others other there and some have really good pricing.

The cost saving on the VOIP phone can help offset the cost of the broadband.

Got to run, DC
T
Thanks!!

Wow thanks everybody, this forum is very welcoming to newbies, much more so than some other forums I frequent. Thanks for your explanations and help. I am glad to be on-board.

First off I appreciate the help in understanding FTA a bit better. I just got off the phone with dish network again, a pretty infuriating call, one of the smugger CRs I've spoken with, I hate that. I know he has nothing to do with the service itself, but it's a hard call to sign a 2 year contract sight unseen. I try to avoid contracts when I can.

I know very little about satellite and TV programming but a little bit more about the internet.
The suggestion from sadie, to google the japanese programming, was very good. In fact, I am able to get a lot of the programming online and stream it for free.

One thing I wanted to ask you all, is about one of the machines I saw in the reviews section. I forget the name, but it allowed you get satellite, but also to pop in a USB or SD card and watch movies, and it also allowed you to type in a URL.

I have thought about the Apple TV, or getting a Mac Mini on top, or Pansat Satellite receiver, (I saw that Coolsat seems popular on this forum as well) but I would prefer to just get one box that will allow me to do everything that I want rather than having a huge stack of components.

My last paragraph shows where my big dilemma lies right now...I am not sure if I should only focus on the Internet, or if I should add Sat capability to learn about FTA. Is there a box that will allow both at the same time? By this I mean, that I can add Sat access, and plug in an ethernet cable, and access both? (Sorry...already asked that...but it's been on my mind a lot!).

I am looking for a digital hub, that will also function as a DVR, but that I don't have to pay for monthly, and that I can use to get free channels FTA, and online.

If anyone has found solutions like this, I would LOVE to hear about them. If anyone has modified a mac mini for this I would be interested too (is there a way to add sat capability to mac minis?). I am a big apple person so that would be nice, although I am not opposed to trying out a new machine if everyone really recommends it.
I am especially looking right now at the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid. Apparently this USB card can receive HDTV free signals, but you need an antenna. Is this the same as FTA?

Thanks so much everyone in advance. Apologies for all the questions and stream-of-consciousness writing.
tigersat49
delta_charlie
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I am looking for a digital hub, that will also function as a DVR, but that I don't have to pay for monthly, and that I can use to get free channels FTA, and online.
---cut---

Hi, a HTPC (Home Theater personal computer) with a PC-DVB card can do this. You might want to jump over to the PC-DVB forum and check it out.

Another interesting this is the HTPC with PC-DVB card can do more then just DVB satellite. You will be able to view 4:2:2 and HD feeds if you install the correct codecs.

BTW - It does not take that much of a computer if it is setup correct. Mine is running XP Pro, 2 GB ram and only a dual core 1.6 CPU. it does MPEG2 HD feeds of football and auto racing at full camera panning speed with no hint of choppy video. Let me know if you have any questions on the setup.

The only problem with the HTPC is they tend to be much harder to setup and sort out. I think you are still going to want a DVB receiver for blind scanning and to help setup the dish. They are also excellent for trouble shooting dish or switch problems.

Hope this helps, DC
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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.
K
The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.
West Palm Beach is getting it on WTCN-CD/43 MNT. Still nothing for Fort Myers


Also, the Thunder's deal for KSBI/52 OKC and KQCW/19 Tulsa will be via a special cable and DIRECTV only feed of those stations. OTA viewers and Dish customers will be limited to 10 games.
dtv757
Thanks for the updates on CW norfolk
Hopefully comes to sat soon!!
dtv757
Not seeing 44 (WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk ) on my D* app for firestick
K
It's only available for streaming customers, they still haven't added that batch of CW stations to satellite.

Even if it was, satellite customers still can't stream their CW affiliates via the app, just the Big 4, select PBS stations and some independents (mainly the ones that have full season NHL/NBA rights)
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WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
Bobby
NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.
Bobby
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Bobby
CFB, Ole Miss at Texas, Saturday 10-24, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Indiana at Michigan, Saturday 10-24, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, BYU at UCF, Saturday 10-24, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Foxbat
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
M
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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b4pjoe
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
Yes the Cowboys owner needs to fire the general manager (himself), co-owner, Chief Operating Officer (COO), Executive Vice President, Director of Player Personnel, and President of AT&T Stadium (his son) and then he should jump off of a cliff. Only then can they recover.
rvvaquero
Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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I was a devout Cowboy fan in the Landry era, grudgingly gave Jimmy his due, since then not so much, the Jones family took care of that...
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dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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dishstaller
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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dishstaller
A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
harshness
In Oregon, our premium boat gas is about a dollar more than our corn premium. Several stations only offer the non-corn premium grade.
Bobby
Regular$5.899​
Premium$6.299​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
dishstaller
Diesel is all over the place around here. Saw it yesterday from $5.37 to $6.17...not sure what the obsession was with ending in 7
dfergie
$4.09 - $4.29, real gas $4.69...
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Little Deuce Coupe - The Beach Boys
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The Boys of Summer - Don Henley
FTA4PA
Summer In The City - The Lovin' Spoonful
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Gonna Send You Back To Georgia (A City Slick) - Timmy Shaw
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Detroit Rock City - KISS
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M
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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Scott Greczkowski
Hopefully they are better then the current highly insecure junk boxes that are out now.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
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TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
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navychop
Comb your hair.
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