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A couple of questions:
1. Will the signal strength be considerably better with 2 dishes vs 1 dish (for HD)?
2. Can the base for a Dish 500 be used for a Dish 1000.4, or will new holes need to be drilled to place the base for the 1000.4? Thanks
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SandFarmer
A perfect description of symptoms of a poorly aimed dish.

Absolutely, positively your dish needs a proper aiming. As I said, 129 should come in mid 50s to mid 70s on the signal strength meter. My guess is you are at about 20 - 30.
Right now under perfectly clear skies I am getting 49-52 cross the board, except for Trans 21 which is at 62. Something else I noticed, it may not matter though, but the 129 meter results take a lot longer to come up and come and go compared to 110 and 119 that pop right up and stay there.

I originally had the appointment set up to do a simple realignment. But the Level 2-3 Tech (CSR) that I talked to at the time recommended the two dish set up for my area. Which was in the back of my mind all along. I see the logic and merits in it and understand what others have come up with in the limitations of the 1000.2 config. When I brought this up to the FS, he agreed that this may be stretching the capability of the 1000.2. He left it to me to decide which way to go and I chose the "tweak" for now and reserved the dual install for later. I'm just fishing for info, but recent physical happenings may dictate the situation for me.
whatchel1
equipment problem

Right now under perfectly clear skies I am getting 49-52 cross the board, except for Trans 21 which is at 62. Something else I noticed, it may not matter though, but the 129 meter results take a lot longer to come up and come and go compared to 110 and 119 that pop right up and stay there.

I originally had the appointment set up to do a simple realignment. But the Level 2-3 Tech (CSR) that I talked to at the time recommended the two dish set up for my area. Which was in the back of my mind all along. I see the logic and merits in it and understand what others have come up with in the limitations of the 1000.2 config. When I brought this up to the FS, he agreed that this may be stretching the capability of the 1000.2. He left it to me to decide which way to go and I chose the "tweak" for now and reserved the dual install for later. I'm just fishing for info, but recent physical happenings may dictate the situation for me.

It is sounding more like the dish doesn't have a peaking problem but an LNB, or switch. Two E* dishes are not going to give you any higher signal levels than what you are reporting.
SandFarmer
It is sounding more like the dish doesn't have a peaking problem but an LNB, or switch. Two E* dishes are not going to give you any higher signal levels than what you are reporting.
But it will give me more accurate targeting of 110/119 and 129 if separate. As from what I am hearing from DISH, is that as you move to the center of the country, this is what they are doing to resolve this. I had the dual set up and there is no problems going back to it. Even if doesn't solve the problem. But it can't hurt to try.

I just talked to the FS (Field Supervisor) and he agrees that something is not right and that the next step is to try the dual dish set up and see what happens. My neighbors are curious about this too. It looks as thought they are having the same problems with the same equipment. So we'll see.
whatchel1
Were they all install by same ppl & same time?

But it will give me more accurate targeting of 110/119 and 129 if separate. As from what I am hearing from DISH, is that as you move to the center of the country, this is what they are doing to resolve this. I had the dual set up and there is no problems going back to it. Even if doesn't solve the problem. But it can't hurt to try.

I just talked to the FS (Field Supervisor) and he agrees that something is not right and that the next step is to try the dual dish set up and see what happens. My neighbors are curious about this too. It looks as thought they are having the same problems with the same equipment. So we'll see.

Were all of these dishes installed by the same company and close to the same time? Did E* install or a local company? I'm wondering if there may have been a bad run of 1000.2 LNB/switch set ups. The only way to get more accurate targeting is to go with 3 dishes. Then each has a single LNB centered on each dish. I have that but the dishes are not made by E*. I have a 24" on 72.7, 32" on 77, & 36 on 129. I will switch the 36 & the 32 after I move in the future since I really don't need the largest one on 129. I put it up 1st when 129 was still a very weak bird. I use the larger dishes because of the heavy thunderstorms that we get here in TX.
SandFarmer
Were all of these dishes installed by the same company and close to the same time? Did E* install or a local company? I'm wondering if there may have been a bad run of 1000.2 LNB/switch set ups. The only way to get more accurate targeting is to go with 3 dishes. Then each has a single LNB centered on each dish. I have that but the dishes are not made by E*. I have a 24" on 72.7, 32" on 77, & 36 on 129. I will switch the 36 & the 32 after I move in the future since I really don't need the largest one on 129. I put it up 1st when 129 was still a very weak bird. I use the larger dishes because of the heavy thunderstorms that we get here in TX.
The mounts I installed and DISH has put whatever dish was necessary for that particular application, after my initial install. Since 1994 we have never had any of the issues that we are having now and since the install of 1000.2. With 300 and 500's for years it has been smooth sailing. Now after a year with a 1000.2 issues are arising and will need to be addressed. Until now, as I have said, I have not had any weather issues. So, to me, the first logical step would to go back to what worked the best for all these years and go from there. And that is what we are going to do.

Next Spring we're scraping the house and rebuilding. I have a special place on the new roof designed especially for dishes. And at that time, I will have the most over kill (within reason) set up. So, yes, larger dishes are on the forefront. I'm just looking to get through the Winter. Since it looks like it's going to be a nasty one.
whatchel1
DP 34 or DPP 44 switch

The mounts I installed and DISH has put whatever dish was necessary for that particular application, after my initial install. Since 1994 we have never had any of the issues that we are having now and since the install of 1000.2. With 300 and 500's for years it has been smooth sailing. Now after a year with a 1000.2 issues are arising and will need to be addressed. Until now, as I have said, I have not had any weather issues. So, to me, the first logical step would to go back to what worked the best for all these years and go from there. And that is what we are going to do.

Next Spring we're scraping the house and rebuilding. I have a special place on the new roof designed especially for dishes. And at that time, I will have the most over kill (within reason) set up. So, yes, larger dishes are on the forefront. I'm just looking to get through the Winter. Since it looks like it's going to be a nasty one.

OK then they will need to bring a DP 34 or DPP 44 switch and dish pro or dish pro + LNBS to put on the 300 & 500 dishes.
C
Fifties across the board? Shouldn't a 1000.2 be doing more like mid- to high-60s? I was getting up to low 70s with a D500 on 110/119 and high 70s with a D300 on CEIL-2. Once you're SURE that the dish is peaked, I'd start looking into that LNB/switch situation, too; it sounds more like bad terrestrial hardware than a bum satellite. :)
SandFarmer
Fifties across the board? Shouldn't a 1000.2 be doing more like mid- to high-60s? I was getting up to low 70s with a D500 on 110/119 and high 70s with a D300 on CEIL-2. Once you're SURE that the dish is peaked, I'd start looking into that LNB/switch situation, too; it sounds more like bad terrestrial hardware than a bum satellite. :)
That's what I am saying. If 129 is so powerful, I think I should be getting a better range of signal which would alleviate all the problems. Plus the first sign of trouble was that we lost everything off 129, but 110/119 were fine for a while, then we lost 110/119 off the 1000.2 while the 500 worked flawlessly the whole time covered with snow. When we had a Dual Dish set up and got our locals off 129, we never had any problems. Back to the basics. And it is a given that it's ground gear and now the sighting on the dish, since all these latest issues popped right after the dish was last "tweaked".
SandFarmer
OK then they will need to bring a DP 34 or DPP 44 switch and dish pro or dish pro + LNBS to put on the 300 & 500 dishes.
There's already a Pro+ LNB on the 500 that's up there. I was told from the beginning that they would supply what ever I would need. As that is what was installed prior to the 1000.2. They'd just put it back to what it was. Of which I have been asked why was it changed. I tell them that I was told I "had" to have the 1000.2. The first tech that came out had it all on the truck and I have a storeroom full of just about one of everything. The curious thing is that they are very free with the external gear. But when it comes to receivers, are very "tight". When I got the 722 the tech tucked my (I owed it) 625 under his arm and literally ran.
whatchel1
It's yours

There's already a Pro+ LNB on the 500 that's up there. I was told from the beginning that they would supply what ever I would need. As that is what was installed prior to the 1000.2. They'd just put it back to what it was. Of which I have been asked why was it changed. I tell them that I was told I "had" to have the 1000.2. The first tech that came out had it all on the truck and I have a storeroom full of just about one of everything. The curious thing is that they are very free with the external gear. But when it comes to receivers, are very "tight". When I got the 722 the tech tucked my (I owed it) 625 under his arm and literally ran.

Did they give you some kind of credit for the 625? Since you owned it it should have stay at your house not taken in by the tech. I'm beginning to think the 1st tech was a bit of a scammer.
C
Plus the first sign of trouble was that we lost everything off 129, but 110/119 were fine for a while, then we lost 110/119 off the 1000.2 while the 500 worked flawlessly the whole time covered with snow.

That's the kind of thing that screams "LNB failure" to me. But I'm a hack, so take it FWIW. Peak it first, then get Dish to replace the LNB. When you peak it, leave the skew setting where it is and focus on getting 129 as best you can. If you can't get into the low-60s, it's an on-site hardware problem.
whatchel1
switch in the 1000.2

That's the kind of thing that screams "LNB failure" to me. But I'm a hack, so take it FWIW. Peak it first, then get Dish to replace the LNB.

It could be a faulty switch in the 1000.2.
SandFarmer
Did they give you some kind of credit for the 625? Since you owned it it should have stay at your house not taken in by the tech. I'm beginning to think the 1st tech was a bit of a scammer.
I have had one of every kind over the years. Nothing surprises me anymore. I'm seeing that it's starting to be as bad as Level 1 phone in support. Which I was told isn't going to get any better anytime soon. I have on my account that they can not send a subcontractor or I will shoot them on sight. This was after we had the first dual dish set up (locals) installed and Suntech Marketing (the subcontractor) took all my new personal DPP gear saying that they had to turn it into DISH to get reimbursed for the gear they installed (all the wrong stuff). When they left I had no working anything. After a quick call to DISH with the State Attorney Gen's office on the other line, I had a real DISH Tech at my house with all new gear, what it needed to be and was installed, up and running in half an hour.

The 625, after a bit of a scream at a "CEO Office CSR" when I was told that he should not have taken it, but I could not get it back, I flat out accused them of theft and my next phone call was going to be to the police. I was given a $450 credit on my next bill and a couple other niceties. Since I have been treated nicely. But I think I am going to have some "issues" on doing some receiver upgrading when the time comes, because it looks like I was told what I wanted to hear to go to HD and now I am finding out bit by bit that things don't work the way I was told it could. We'll see when the time comes.

This last "re-aiming" the first guy was new(er) and by the book 150% over realistic and could not do his job. He got in his own way and almost killed himself. That's when I asked him to call dispatch so I could talk to his supervisor. Half an hour later he was gone and a Field Supervisor was on my doorstep. This guy is great. I'm sure in time the first guy will come into his own. But not on my time. I told them all just to send the gear and I'll do it myself. And from what I am hearing we, all may have to go this way in the future. What's really funny is this is the way it all started back in the early 90's. The World goes round.
SandFarmer
It could be a faulty switch in the 1000.2.
That's why this exercise. The process of elimination and insertion of reason, suggestions or known to work processes.

My parents are both Rocket Scientists and I spent some time at Hughes Aerospace and a little at Echostar. So we're a family that's familiar with things that go into space, orbit the Earth and land on other planets. That's why when I get a "questionable" field tech I bite my tongue and wait. I'm willing to get 'em a chance. Then when things fail, I do my research, plan my strategy and then attack.
C
It could be a faulty switch in the 1000.2.

Sorry, it's just that since the switch is inside the 1000.2 LNB assembly, I dumbed it down. I guess that's not necessary in this crowd. :)
whatchel1
U right

Sorry, it's just that since the switch is inside the 1000.2 LNB assembly, I dumbed it down. I guess that's not necessary in this crowd. :)

you are right isn't necessary around here. What I think this whole thing boils down to is the OP has had tech trouble from the start of the upgrade.
TRG
TRG
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Last reply · posted in Local Radio Discussion
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dishdude
It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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Jimbo
I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Even FM, I haven't really had on since '13ish, I may turn it on from time to time, just to see if its still there.
harshness
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.
dishstaller
Very rarely listen to FM any more
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
dishstaller
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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PEOPLE Are Strange-The Doors
ClarkGable
You're Still A Young Man - Tower Of Power
dishstaller
In the Still of the Night - The Five Satins
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harshness
Still Loving You - Scorpions
Bobby
PEOPLE Are Strange-The Doors

You're Still A Young Man - Tower Of Power
No Match, back to:
People Are Strange - The Doors




Isn't Life Strange - The Moody Blues
FTA4PA
Strange Days - Nazareth
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TheForce
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Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
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Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
S

most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
S
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
SkyWatcher57
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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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(((Garyd)))
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
a good surge protector will help to.
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SkyWatcher57
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
Hi Gary, still working on getting you those
Hi Gary, just saw this, ok, I'll grab some pics tomorrow and post them. thx
Still working getting you those pictures, nice weekends means yard work and fall prep, thanks
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k4otl
Anybody know how to add "hidden" audio channels like for 101 W Ku or 105W C band on these recvr's? I've exported the database file but don't have anything that will read or edit it.
cyberham
For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
k4otl
For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
Seems like I remember that now, with my V9 I manually entered anyway on 105, easier for me to pick the channel later :)
T
Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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T
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

DAN
primestar31
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

DAN
That's great!

Many people have all sorts of power bricks laying around. Provided the plug fits, and it's the right polarity and same voltage and the same OR higher amps, why not try another one IF the device you want to try it on doesn't seem to work right.
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JFOK
That's great!

Many people have all sorts of power bricks laying around. Provided the plug fits, and it's the right polarity and same voltage and the same OR higher amps, why not try another one IF the device you want to try it on doesn't seem to work right.
primestar31,

Could you explain to me what a power brick is ?
Thanks,

John
primestar31
primestar31,

Could you explain to me what a power brick is ?
Thanks,

John
Some people just call them power supplies (which really isn't a good fit in this case), some call them "wall adapters" but it's an external power supply or AC adapter that converts (AC) from a wall outlet into low-voltage (DC) that an electronic device needs to run.
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T
[Give us a summary of what you receive with a 6-footer. I'm very curious.]

Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality and I am near Detroit! I'm recording a TECHNO MUSIC FESTIVAL today from Mexico ..if you can believe it.....and yes that SHED is partly in the path so I'm puzzled. There are also christian channels on 105w.
cyberham
...Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality...
105W has some very strong transponders. I received more than four transponders using a 41-inch dish recently. See here.
k4otl
[Give us a summary of what you receive with a 6-footer. I'm very curious.]

Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality and I am near Detroit! I'm recording a TECHNO MUSIC FESTIVAL today from Mexico ..if you can believe it.....and yes that SHED is partly in the path so I'm puzzled. There are also christian channels on 105w.
The Westwood One Mux on 105W would likely be receivable, has some good music channels on there. It does scan in, but it's more convenient to manually enter the PIDs, check out Lyngsat for the channels: EchoStar 105/SES 11 at 105.0°W - LyngSat

I use a 10 footer (only C-band dish I have), but it's very strong.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83


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Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
Jimbo
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
No, I was actually referring to outside of the Top 8, but should have been Top 12 ...

I guess I should have looked at the bracket from last year first ...

I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
AZ.
AZ.
And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
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And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.
Jimbo
While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.
Once the 24 gets here, there won't be anymore Conference Championships .... or so they say.

Oh what the hell, we really don't need Conferences anymore either ...:coco:(
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I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
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AZ.
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Yep, wonder why we rank the top 25 in 2 poles still? Do the ranking change much if they are unranked or have many loses? They sure do, any given day never take your opponent as a cake walk.....
Jimbo
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

They are trying to make this Basketball and its a far cry from the way that is played.

How long till they go to 32 teams ? Then they will say, well, the NFL is 32 teams, we can make more money that way .... except the NFL is 32 teams, that are a set number of teams and divisions, you don't have that in College ... oh but they will try.

They would have to choose what teams they would want in and thats it.
Hopefully that NEVER happens.

I can see the NCAA going away and the CFP taking that portion over and a Collective Bargaining agreement coming in the not to distant future.
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rvvaquero
The problem with rankings and playoffs is that they are designed to hype the game and make money. Period.

The only reason that BYU and Texas Tech were upsets is that they were hyped up in the standings in the first place. I love watching BYU and Bear Bachmeier. They are a fun and talented team, but not nearly so strong, fast, big, and skilled as a true top ten team. Does anyone truly believe they could compete with the likes of Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama, etc.? Yet, they were ranked above those teams.

Each year, there are 10 to 12 teams who truly could compete for the championship if it depended on winning more than one game in a playoff. Including teams like James Madison, Tulane, BYU, etc. in a playoff has nothing to do with determining a national champion. It's just about money.
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JSheridan
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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MikeD-C05
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.
Scott Greczkowski
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH
I have the same wish.
S
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
charlesrshell
can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
B
I have the same wish.
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
NYDutch
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
DISH will happily sell them a Starlink system and service.
T
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Foxbat
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.
T
But how is it reusable if it's disposable
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh