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Hi,

I have been viewing the Ku band FTA for some time now. I would also like to get some C-band programming. I have no experience with C-band. I would appreciate it if some of you that know would tell me if this will probably work.

I am considering the possibility of installing a Geosat CK1 LNBF on one of my Ku dishes with a WS-KU2C mounting kit as listed at Sadoun. I would like to get some of the programming on Galaxy 16 @ 99.0 W.

If I am reading the Lyngsat Maps correctly. This should work with my 90 CM Fortec or with the 1 meter Winegard Ku dish.

My Questions:

Am I likely to have a decent quality C-band signal with this setup in SW Minnesota?

By adding the items listed above to my Mercury II receiver through the DS21-C DiSEgC switch that connects to my other KU dish LNBs. Should all of this do what I want it to without any other equipment?

It is about a 90 - 100 foot coax run from the dishes to the box using RG6. If I put a C-band LNBF on this should I be using the larger RG11 coax for that distance?

I am considering the combination C/Ku band LNBF simply because I may want to use the Ku side of it later. I do not plan to use the Ku portion of it at this time. Could I do better with a different combination or C-band only LNBF?

I would appreciate information about this. I have searched this and other forums for this information without any success.
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Thanks everyone for the answers to my questions.

Iceberg, I have read some of your writing on this forum so I knew that you was just a short distance north of me. I am just south of Lake Sarah about 12 miles north of Slayton.

These things do not always work the way that one would expect. I have found that I have always needed a little bigger dish than what Lygnsat lists for Ku.

I will just get a c band dish when I am going in a direction to pick one up. The shipping charges kind of takes some of the fun out of it. I have been looking at C band dish prices at different companies websites. They sure do vary a lot for basically the same thing. Sadoun has the lowest price right now that I have found. It looks as though they are clearing them out to make room for their own brand name dish.
Anole
Sadoun has a sale on the C2 LNBF.
If you look around the forum, you'll find it well reviewed.
Good choice for any size dish.

Also, for moving any size BUD, you'll want a motor controller.
The Gbox v3000 is the one we highly recommend.
Read our review for more details.
Inno
Thanks everyone for the answers to my questions.

Iceberg, I have read some of your writing on this forum so I knew that you was just a short distance north of me. I am just south of Lake Sarah about 12 miles north of Slayton.

These things do not always work the way that one would expect. I have found that I have always needed a little bigger dish than what Lygnsat lists for Ku.

I will just get a c band dish when I am going in a direction to pick one up. The shipping charges kind of takes some of the fun out of it. I have been looking at C band dish prices at different companies websites. They sure do vary a lot for basically the same thing. Sadoun has the lowest price right now that I have found. It looks as though they are clearing them out to make room for their own brand name dish.

Many of us find old C-Band dishes which are no longer in use and offer to "remove that eyesore" from the owner's yard. I have not had to purchase one yet! There are a few threads on "dish hunting" here. No doubt if you put some time in you can find yourself a workable unit cheap if not free. That to me is half the fun of the hobby, re-purposing old parts.
Anole
any way is a good way:

I agree with Inno (see my signature), but if you want the 6' from Sadoun, here's more info on the new model.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/191431-sadoun-180-cm-prime-focus-dishes.html
M
Let me add to all the fine comments above Welcome to C Band!..well almost.....lol

The old adage size matters definitely applies here. No such thing as too big....well unless you are subjected to some premadonna HOA Gestapo tactics.

Choosing to support one of the site sponsors is always a good thing but I would like to believe that you could find a mesh dish in the 7.5-10' range with a bit of hunting and developing a "trained eye". If your passion for this increases (as usually is the case) you will end up with a bigger one eventually anyway (deed restrictions and spousal approval not withstanding).
The mini-bud projects are usually an exercise in "proof of concept" or out of necessity to comply with restrictions. (The FCC has really hung us out to dry drafting the 1m size limit and the HOAs eat it up.) Dont get me wrong I applaud the efforts of those who have made what should be impossible happen, but if you can go bigger then by all means do so.

I run polarotor driven dual-band (C and Ku) feeds on both my 7.5 and 10 footer, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Some prefer the 13/18v controlled LNBF over the legacy system, and you will find staunch support in both camps. If you are fortunate enough to locate a system free for the haulin' off, ask about the original analog C band IRD as well if you intend to use the legacy polarotor setup. That is a major (and justifiable) complaint by the LNBF camp, because there is not any polarotor control equipment, save the legacy IRDs commercially available. (There was mention of one in development a while back, but so far nothing has come of it AFAIK.)
I come from the analog days and keep a 4D sub so that is a non issue to me.

If you have an unobstructed "view" of the entire southern sky, and you are fortunate enough to come across a Birdview dish you may want to take the trouble to get it as it has an H-H actuator system. They are not generally a good choice for the 1st time C bander since they require some special attention to optimize performance, but drag it home anyway (pending spousal approval) because if you pass it up and it's gone by the time you get the hang of this you'll be kicking your own butt. There are several Birdview enthusiasts on the board, and you should have no problem getting assistance if/when the time comes.

So...take the wife, kids, whoever will go with you out "dish hunting". My 6 yo grand has spotted some I completely missed! Drive slow, look high, look low, look between houses and peer into back yards, and if you get pulled over for suspicion of "casing the neighborhood" be sure you dont have any unpaid parking tickets......lol.
Once you have canvassed an area re-run the route backwards. Point of view is everything. Stay aware of where south is (turns out pizza dishs actually are useful for something :rolleyes:) think - "If I were a C band dish, where would I be sitting/pointing" Take a camera. Keep a list......FIND THAT PERFECT DISH! It's out there.
When you get ready to take it down and put it back up/re-align it, there are some tips and tricks to that too, all available with a search, or if that isnt enough info by all means post your specific question(s).

Now...get out there and do some re-con soldier!
(((Garyd)))
Let me add to all the fine comments above Welcome to C Band!..well almost.....lol

The old adage size matters definitely applies here. No such thing as too big....well unless you are subjected to some premadonna HOA Gestapo tactics.

Choosing to support one of the site sponsors is always a good thing but I would like to believe that you could find a mesh dish in the 7.5-10' range with a bit of hunting and developing a "trained eye". If your passion for this increases (as usually is the case) you will end up with a bigger one eventually anyway (deed restrictions and spousal approval not withstanding).
The mini-bud projects are usually an exercise in "proof of concept" or out of necessity to comply with restrictions. (The FCC has really hung us out to dry drafting the 1m size limit and the HOAs eat it up.) Dont get me wrong I applaud the efforts of those who have made what should be impossible happen, but if you can go bigger then by all means do so.

I run polarotor driven dual-band (C and Ku) feeds on both my 7.5 and 10 footer, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Some prefer the 13/18v controlled LNBF over the legacy system, and you will find staunch support in both camps. If you are fortunate enough to locate a system free for the haulin' off, ask about the original analog C band IRD as well if you intend to use the legacy polarotor setup. That is a major (and justifiable) complaint by the LNBF camp, because there is not any polarotor control equipment, save the legacy IRDs commercially available. (There was mention of one in development a while back, but so far nothing has come of it AFAIK.)
I come from the analog days and keep a 4D sub so that is a non issue to me.

If you have an unobstructed "view" of the entire southern sky, and you are fortunate enough to come across a Birdview dish you may want to take the trouble to get it as it has an H-H actuator system. They are not generally a good choice for the 1st time C bander since they require some special attention to optimize performance, but drag it home anyway (pending spousal approval) because if you pass it up and it's gone by the time you get the hang of this you'll be kicking your own butt. There are several Birdview enthusiasts on the board, and you should have no problem getting assistance if/when the time comes.

So...take the wife, kids, whoever will go with you out "dish hunting". My 6 yo grand has spotted some I completely missed! Drive slow, look high, look low, look between houses and peer into back yards, and if you get pulled over for suspicion of "casing the neighborhood" be sure you dont have any unpaid parking tickets......lol.
Once you have canvassed an area re-run the route backwards. Point of view is everything. Stay aware of where south is (turns out pizza dishs actually are useful for something :rolleyes:) think - "If I were a C band dish, where would I be sitting/pointing" Take a camera. Keep a list......FIND THAT PERFECT DISH! It's out there.
When you get ready to take it down and put it back up/re-align it, there are some tips and tricks to that too, all available with a search, or if that isnt enough info by all means post your specific question(s).

Now...get out there and do some re-con soldier!

Yes there is a lot of c-band dishes to be had if any one in CT needs one just ask

Been a C-band dealer since 1982 Scott knows me

or just call my cell at 203 232 8888 diamondsatellite@snet.net
Foxbat
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade
No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
ncted
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
ncted
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
dishdude
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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cpdretired
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Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
look again mine says free for 1 month
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Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
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Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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Almighty1
wonder why it says that
Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Howard Simmons
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.