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Since I found my 922 I have friends and family that want cband. Well as we all know 922's are made from that special material unoptainium. On the other hand here in Canada 401's are everywhere for about five dollars at your local thrift store. So the project began... I started reading in the post here from years gone by and others have tried to remap the 401 as well. I figured if the 410 can remap then why not the the 401 even if it is a for the anik sats. So I pointed my ten foot cband to w5 then option 6778 to reset the 401. I figured I might as well start with a clean unit. I called my provider and asked for a hit to see if we could trip the unit. Nothing. I then tried to manually tune channel 204 (option 6778). Channel 204 on a 410 is discovery kids. The 922 cband discovery kids shows 1090.00f 19.51s 3/4 so I input to the 401 and press tune. I get a green lite but still no hits. Provider id is 0 and guide is not available. I then tried 1070.00, 1170.00 with no hits.
Round two stared with hooking the 401 back up to a ku dish and point at 107 let the 401 remap with the updated maps. My idea is to give me more options on the channels, thinking 204 really isn't 204 discovery kids on the 401. I let it sit all night. The next day provider id is normal 4128 still no guide. Ok back to the big dish now with the 401. I press guide and it downloads a guide for five channels. (319 ppv1, 322 ppv2, 337 cnbc, 340 rock country, 507 wcov, 940 wnbc) Providers 4096 4160 next line provider 4128 next line on any channel emm stream no. Ok time to call for hits!!! Tune to 204 and nothing, no hits. I then tried to scan for a new activation stream(option 6778) with my provider and nothing. In fact it put me back to provider id 0. So round two had to start over to get back to this point.
Round three stared with downloading my guide(5 whole channels that don't seem to exist) I started to check a channel at a time for a zero key or zk that might give a hint what channel i'm on. I found channel 366 on the 401 that is zk. This is a radio station from w5 that I have seen on the 922. I checked the freq on the 922 and found this channel to be w5 826 1330.00f 19.51s 3/4. On the 401 it shows the channel 366 freq 1404.750f 19.51s 3/4. This channel is light classical. On the 410 I think this is channel 906 in the mapped channels.
This brings me to a hault until I can figure out what channel 204 really is. The only transponder they can send a hit on is 204-215. If I can find the real 204 for the 401 discovery kids I might get a hit. The math for the freq seems to be simple (adding 74.25 to the 922 freq). At this point after several hours and atempts I wonder if the 401 would make a better door stop then a w5 unit. This would be a great way to bring life back to cband in canada if we could make it work.
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Round two stared with hooking the 401 back up to a ku dish and point at 107 let the 401 remap with the updated maps. My idea is to give me more options on the channels, thinking 204 really isn't 204 discovery kids on the 401. I let it sit all night. The next day provider id is normal 4128 still no guide. Ok back to the big dish now with the 401. I press guide and it downloads a guide for five channels. (319 ppv1, 322 ppv2, 337 cnbc, 340 rock country, 507 wcov, 940 wnbc) Providers 4096 4160 next line provider 4128 next line on any channel emm stream no. Ok time to call for hits!!! Tune to 204 and nothing, no hits. I then tried to scan for a new activation stream(option 6778) with my provider and nothing. In fact it put me back to provider id 0. So round two had to start over to get back to this point.
Round three stared with downloading my guide(5 whole channels that don't seem to exist) I started to check a channel at a time for a zero key or zk that might give a hint what channel i'm on. I found channel 366 on the 401 that is zk. This is a radio station from w5 that I have seen on the 922. I checked the freq on the 922 and found this channel to be w5 826 1330.00f 19.51s 3/4. On the 401 it shows the channel 366 freq 1404.750f 19.51s 3/4. This channel is light classical. On the 410 I think this is channel 906 in the mapped channels.
This brings me to a hault until I can figure out what channel 204 really is. The only transponder they can send a hit on is 204-215. If I can find the real 204 for the 401 discovery kids I might get a hit. The math for the freq seems to be simple (adding 74.25 to the 922 freq). At this point after several hours and atempts I wonder if the 401 would make a better door stop then a w5 unit. This would be a great way to bring life back to cband in canada if we could make it work.
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We need to send our boxes our own hits
I've read some interesting stuff about the DC-2. Unfortunately I can't talk about that stuff in an open forum.
We need to send our boxes our own hits
I've read some interesting stuff about the DC-2. Unfortunately I can't talk about that stuff in an open forum.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Anyone watching IPTV on Amiko 4k s52 UHD ?
I put a bunch of *.m3u files in the root of my USB KEY but Amiko won't try to play them?
No INSTRUCTIONS for this.
Dan
I put a bunch of *.m3u files in the root of my USB KEY but Amiko won't try to play them?
No INSTRUCTIONS for this.
Dan
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!
A couple of pieces of info:
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
A couple of pieces of info:
- Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
- Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
- During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
- Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
- Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
- There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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I ran the Schedule S through ChatGPT to analyze the data quickly, and according to ChatGPT, the 16 transponders currently being used for SpotBeams on 110 is all that has been authorized by the FCC. So Dish might be using TP 01-13 for ConUS on 110 for the foreseeable future. If that is the case, Dish has a ton of space to bring in more HD channels nationally or use that bandwidth for something else.
I know my lists aren't perfect as I can't see all the test channels and behind the scenes channels, but for channels available to subscribers - there are no channels on 119 TP 01-08 and 10; and on 110, TP14 has only 4 channels. With Dish putting 16 HD channels per transponder right now, that is about 145+ slots for HD channels that are available if Dish does keep 110 as ConUS for TP 01-13.
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