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skysurfer

Last reply Jan 7, 2010 · posted in The Sports Section

If the NFL were like college football...

I had an amazing moment of thought today about the NFL vs college football.

I found a good way to rationalize how stupid the BCS system is and that a college football playoff is needed. See:

If the NFL were like college football, the NFL would automatically make the Super Bowl the New Orleans Saints v. the Indianapolis Colts.

Other teams given a post-season game to congratulate them for a fine season and to put one more game worth of revenue in the owner's pocket:

Cowboys against Patriots
Ravens against the Ravens
Vikings against the Chargers
Cardinals against the Bengals
Packers against the Jets

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I also had more thought how the playoff format in college football should go.

Rank the top 6 teams in the "BCS" conferences and pick 2 teams at large from the non "BCS" conferences. That way, 25% of the pool comes outside the BCS and should avoid any anti-trust issues.

Bracket them up - the quarterfinals will be played as the Rose, Fiesta, Orange and Sugar bowls. Two of those sites will alternate each year to hold the semifinals.

The finals will be held at a stadium with 50,000+ capacity and appropriate lodging to handle the visitors appropriate of a national college football title game.

Week one of playoffs is christmas week, week two is new years week, and the final is the week after new years. That should allow the college kids to avoid missing a lot of classes as most colleges should be on winter break over the holidays.

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SamCdbs

Jan 4, 2010

Another "use the bowls as playoffs" idea. Already shown 100s of times that you can have bowls or playoffs. Not both.

Enjoy those "rest your starters" meaningless games do you.

But yes, using the NFL as an analogy shows where the people that want college playoffs are coming from. NFL fans who do not understand college football and want it to just be like the NFL and everything else.

Sorry, you cannot have the greatest sport on earth to be AAA football. You like the NFL. Great. Watch it, and leave us alone.

vurbano

Jan 5, 2010

FYI

College is amateur sports. There is no need to have a playoff nor a need to have a "champion" of everyone.

Jimbo

Jan 5, 2010

vurbano said:
FYI

College is amateur sports. There is no need to have a playoff nor a need to have a "champion" of everyone.

Tell that to the Division 2 and 3 schools.

lakebum431

Jan 6, 2010

vurbano said:
FYI

College is amateur sports. There is no need to have a playoff nor a need to have a "champion" of everyone.

We are all well aware that collegiate athletics are performed by amateurs. However, your logic doesn't really make any sense. Under that logic there would never be any type of tournament for anything other than paid athletes. That means basketball, baseball, softball, soccer, etc. tournaments for kids. Also no playoffs for high school sports? No state championships?

Some of my favorite childhood memories were playing sports in tournaments. I'm not really seeing your point here...

Paul Wozniak

Jan 6, 2010

vurbano said:
FYI

College is amateur sports. There is no need to have a playoff nor a need to have a "champion" of everyone.

Then what the hell are they playing for? You got conference championships, etc..., why not a national champion? I suppose you think the basketball championship is unnecessary?

Hart5150

Jan 6, 2010

SamCdbs said:
Another "use the bowls as playoffs" idea. Already shown 100s of times that you can have bowls or playoffs. Not both.

Enjoy those "rest your starters" meaningless games do you.

But yes, using the NFL as an analogy shows where the people that want college playoffs are coming from. NFL fans who do not understand college football and want it to just be like the NFL and everything else.

Sorry, you cannot have the greatest sport on earth to be AAA football. You like the NFL. Great. Watch it, and leave us alone.

Ahh, hate to burst your bubble, but it already is. I love college football, but its rise in popularity nationally is tied to the rise of the NFL. Why do you thing the NFL draft is one of the highest rated shows on ESPN.

I like that the NFL helps college football by mandating the 3 year rule. Don't act like they are not partners.

Greg Bimson

Jan 7, 2010

vurbano said:
FYI

College is amateur sports. There is no need to have a playoff nor a need to have a "champion" of everyone.

Funny stuff.

There may not need to be a "champion" of everyone in the NCAA's?

The NCAA currently awards 87 national championships yearly; 44 women's, 40 men's, and three coed championships where men and women compete together (Fencing, Rifle, and Skiing). For every NCAA sanctioned sport other than Division I FBS football, the NCAA awards wooden trophies with gold, silver, and bronze plating for the first, second, and third place teams respectively; similar to the Olympics.

So of all 88 NCAA sanctioned sports and divisions, 87 provide a "champion".

It just seems to be a quite hypocrytical stance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 4 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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ewindowman

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Last reply 9 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 6:38 PM

https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 6:52 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

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Juan

Yesterday at 9:50 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:00 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.

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Almighty1

Today at 5:30 AM

Even 23 years ago, Verizon was known for having quality customer service. T-Mobile had quality customer service too but just poor mobile service. AT&T when it was still known as AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless both had poor customer service. This was when all three were providing customer service from the U.S. so even in the U.S., some companies are still better than others as it still depends on who they hire. That's the same reason AT&T Broadband Inc. which was basically their Cable TV never gotten far and got sold to Comcast.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:26 AM

dishstaller said:
And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies

I wouldn't call it incompetence necessarily, it's just that the customer is only a device now, the old idea that you need to spend money to make money has been forgotten. They're not looking at the long game. They're looking at immediate exposure and shareholder value. Spending a lot of money on local call centers might be a good long term investment, but it doesn't do anything for them in the short term. That's what the blank stares were about, they thought YOU didn't get it.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:27 AM

Juan said:
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.

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ERSanders

9 minutes ago

The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

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dfergie

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Last reply 17 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

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Bobby

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Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

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Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.

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Charter/Spectrum tv app works with more brands

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Last reply Today at 9:27 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

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sasmith

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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jsmit86

Today at 9:27 AM

sasmith said:
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.

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