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I have had a pansat 150m reciever since christmas. I have an assortment of old satellite dishes retrieved from trash heaps. I have a old direct tv dish a newer one with a dual lnb, a old primerstar dish, and a hughes net dish. I have tried to pick up several satellites with no luck. I get a signal but know quality. What do I need to do to get started. Is there in satellites that I can pick up with what I have to test the reciever. Thanks
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hwm
hwm
You'll probably need a new LNB.

In my experience it is best to discard old weather-beaten LNBs and buy a new standard linear LNB. This should cost less than $20 including shipping, and will save much frustration. I would also suggest one of the cheap "SF95" type signal meters to help in finding a satellite signal. These can also be had for less than $20 delivered.

Your dish for Ku band FTA Linear satellites should be at least 31 inches in diameter. Bigger is better. Some linear Ku fta sats can be received with smaller dishes, but doing so is primarily just a challenging stunt to see if you can do it.

I would suggest you start with Galaxy 19 @ 97 West. There are plenty of FTA channels here , and the signal is strong on most transponders.

For me, the two most difficult things to learn when starting out in FTA TV were: 1- Finding the satellite signal you are aiming for. 2- Setting all the options in your receiver's setup menu to match your equipment and the satellite signal your are trying to get.

Learn from your mistakes, and don't get discouraged. You'll figure it out.

One more thought: I spent many frustrating hours trying to get 123w back in the day with a Primestar dish and a "Dish1000?" that had 3 LNBs on it, one of them linear. I never did get usable signal quality with my junkyard dishes and LNBs. A year or so later I tried again with a new Winegard 31-inch dish and a new standard linear LNB. In about an hour and a half I was setup on 123w, enjoying old TV shows on RTN network. Sure, I studied about FTA TV plenty in that year, but the bigger dish and new LNB made all the difference in getting good strong signal quality.
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Thanks for all the replys. I will work with it this evening and see what lnbs I have. Currently the hughes net dish is permently mounted and ready to go. Turbosat I see your from Oneonta I have a lot of family in odenville and springville. Very pretty neck of the woods.
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The hughsnet dish is not very easy to get to. I couldnt get any numbers off of it. On the primestar dish, it is a channelmaster with mold number 75e-4. The lnb has the number 8462 on it and has 2 coax outlets one marked with an H and the other with a V.
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In my experience it is best to discard old weather-beaten LNBs and buy a new standard linear LNB. This should cost less than $20 including shipping, and will save much frustration. I would also suggest one of the cheap "SF95" type signal meters to help in finding a satellite signal. These can also be had for less than $20 delivered.

Your dish for Ku band FTA Linear satellites should be at least 31 inches in diameter. Bigger is better. Some linear Ku fta sats can be received with smaller dishes, but doing so is primarily just a challenging stunt to see if you can do it.

I would suggest you start with Galaxy 19 @ 97 West. There are plenty of FTA channels here , and the signal is strong on most transponders.

For me, the two most difficult things to learn when starting out in FTA TV were: 1- Finding the satellite signal you are aiming for. 2- Setting all the options in your receiver's setup menu to match your equipment and the satellite signal your are trying to get.
Learn from your mistakes, and don't get discouraged. You'll figure it out.

One more thought: I spent many frustrating hours trying to get 123w back in the day with a Primestar dish and a "Dish1000?" that had 3 LNBs on it, one of them linear. I never did get usable signal quality with my junkyard dishes and LNBs. A year or so later I tried again with a new Winegard 31-inch dish and a new standard linear LNB. In about an hour and a half I was setup on 123w, enjoying old TV shows on RTN network. Sure, I studied about FTA TV plenty in that year, but the bigger dish and new LNB made all the difference in getting good strong signal quality.

HWM,

You have some excellent points of advice and suggestions! I highlighted the ones that I thought were worded so perfectly and eloquently.

I don't agree that "bigger is better" however. That is not always the truth or the correct way to judge the dish antenna. There are many factors to be considered, beyond just size. You must consider size (diameter), F/D ratio, construction and material, gain rating at the desired or intended frequency use, effective apperture and apperture efficiency and several other parameters. Basically, be cautious about stating that bigger is always better, because it isn't always an accurate statement.

To add to this:

Ensure that your mast is perfectly plumb and sturdy, don't skimp or cut a corner on this. It is highly important that you adhere to this rule.

It is also important to experiment and try to become familiarized with setting up and aligning a fixed point dish antenna, before you graduate to a motorized system.

And, obviously, become very familiar with the receiver that you are starting out with. Learn its abilities and limitations by asking questions and experiment with navigating all of its menus and modes of operation.

Good luck to you, 49Ford and absolutely....

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Tron
49ford, your Primestar dish will work well for you. The LNB is a bit old, but should do the job with one addition--a DirecTV-style 3 x 4 multiswitch. These can be had very cheaply. You would connect the H output from the LNB to the 18V input on the multiswitch, and the V output to the 13V input on the switch. You can connect up to four receivers to the outputs. The multiswitch allows the receiver to select horizontal or vertical polarities by switching voltages, as it would normally do with any regular LNB. You could also buy a new LNB for the dish, but the multiswitch is probably your cheapest option.

I'd personally replace that LNB with a bandstacked one from a Superdish (also found very easily, and usually for free), but I'm not going to advise someone new to the hobby to jump in with a bandstacked LNB (Anole would probably disown me!) ;)
phlatwound
49ford, your Primestar dish will work well for you. The LNB is a bit old, but should do the job with one addition--a DirecTV-style 3 x 4 multiswitch. These can be had very cheaply. You would connect the H output from the LNB to the 18V input on the multiswitch, and the V output to the 13V input on the switch. You can connect up to four receivers to the outputs. The multiswitch allows the receiver to select horizontal or vertical polarities by switching voltages, as it would normally do with any regular LNB. You could also buy a new LNB for the dish, but the multiswitch is probably your cheapest option.

I'd personally replace that LNB with a bandstacked one from a Superdish (also found very easily, and usually for free), but I'm not going to advise someone new to the hobby to jump in with a bandstacked LNB (Anole would probably disown me!) ;)

49er, I agree with everything that Tron says here but would add, if you just want to try out that Primestar you don't have to buy a new LNBF or a multiswitch. Just need to hook your coax to the H output if you are scanning for horizontal channels, and the V output if looking for verticals.

Once you have everything working in that state you will most likely want to get a multiswitch, or a voltage-controlled switching LNBF so you don't have to move the cable to select polarities.

Those Primestars are excellent dishes, if you end up using yours and want to consider motorizing it, there is a ton of info on this site on how to do that also.
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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
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One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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