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Setanta Sports USA: Soon To Become A Thing Of The Past

If these reports that have emerged in the last day or two, Fox Sports International may be preparing to buy Setanta Sports USA. What would that mean for that network? Would it become a second Fox Soccer Channel? Would it go dark altogether?
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EVERYTHING is televized at a level unlike ever before. Function of the plethora of channels.

Soccer is the world's most popular sport. However, soccer is not nearly as popular as some advocates claim. There are plenty of places other than the USA and Canada that ignore soccer, and, to be honest, most of the world lives pretty much hand to mouth every day of their lives, and spectator sports are a function of an affluent society. Further, ratings, in the Nielsen sense, are taken only in the "first world" and the 300M and such number are just a function of claiming that "everybody" in some godawful place watched a game.

In the USA, it is great to see soccer related things fail. Its not so much that soccer is a simplistic and pointless sport, although it is, it is the insufferable arogance of its tiny cadre of fans.
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SamCdbs said:
Soccer is the world's most popular sport. However, soccer is not nearly as popular as some advocates claim. There are plenty of places other than the USA and Canada that ignore soccer, and, to be honest, most of the world lives pretty much hand to mouth every day of their lives, and spectator sports are a function of an affluent society. Further, ratings, in the Nielsen sense, are taken only in the "first world" and the 300M and such number are just a function of claiming that "everybody" in some godawful place watched a game.
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There are some pretty bizarre statements in this paragraph, which do not add up to an actual point. Soccer is by far the most popular sport in the world, and number two is not even close.

In the USA, it is great to see soccer related things fail. Its not so much that soccer is a simplistic and pointless sport, although it is, it is the insufferable arogance of its tiny cadre of fans.
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As salsadancer said, soccer is a sport that does not need US dollars or approval to be the most popular sport on the planet. That seems to bug people into making comments like this. :rolleyes:


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Soccer is by far the most popular sport in the world, and number two is not even close.
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True. But for soccer's tiny cadre of North American supporters, that is not enough. I has to be only we oafish Americans and Canadians that do not understand the "beauty" of kicking a ball back and fourth to one another. They have to spew out the idea that pertty much everybody else in the world cares.

First, of course, sadly, for most of the world, life is a short, hard, difficult struggle. Spectator sports and sitting around the TV with a can of beer for a few hours is not how most of the world lives. These soccer numbers of billions and billions are just pulled out of thin air and an unawareness of what the world is really like.

Second, as with anything, lots of people in the parts of the world where soccer is actually popular (western Europe and southern Latin America) follow other things. "Everybody" never does anything. "Everybody" doesn't follow the NFL, because somebody is at the symphony, somebody took a walk, somebody is watching TV bowling, and somebody is reading a book.

Third, there are plenty of parts of the world that ignore soccer, and by ignore I mean treat it like we do. Australia, New Zealand, Japan, China, India, Pakistan, the Carribean, etc.

It is just great to see people lose money on soccer in North America. The Market is speaking to those that will listen to it. Business people who listen to It, and not to the insufferable arrogance of its tiny cadre of fans, will do well.
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There are soccer fans whose arrogance grates me ( and I say that as a soccer fan). But don't confuse arrogance with passion. Soccer fans have every right to demonstrate their passion and defend the honor of their beloved game. I've long since quit trying to convert the naysayers, It is always a waste of time. People are going to believe what they want to and are not going to let the truth stand in the way of their thinking. Usually it's just the same tiresome rehash of decades-old rhetoric. I admire your efforts though, Sandra, I'm pleased to count you among our "small cadre."
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WOW!! Where do I start??!! I guess I could be lazy and agree with everything Sandra said, because I do....(:eek:)..but I thought I would put my 2 cents in MY way.;)

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True. But for soccer's tiny cadre of North American supporters, that is not enough. I has to be only we oafish Americans and Canadians that do not understand the "beauty" of kicking a ball back and fourth to one another. They have to spew out the idea that pertty much everybody else in the world cares.
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I doubt it's "tiny", soccer leagues for kids 15 and younger and spring up faster than any other sport in the US form where I have read. ALL due mostly to the huge latino community that is growing y leaps and bounds.

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First, of course, sadly, for most of the world, life is a short, hard, difficult struggle. Spectator sports and sitting around the TV with a can of beer for a few hours is not how most of the world lives. These soccer numbers of billions and billions are just pulled out of thin air and an unawareness of what the world is really like.
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That is quite the elist look at the world. YES, there is struggle all over the world. BUT there is WAY more than enough here in the US. Australia and western Europe has alot less struggle than the US...(there ends my political rant!:rant:;))!!! WHERE you are getting the "billions and billions" numbers, I do not know. You seem to be pulling THAT out of thin air.:rolleyes: FIFA had estimated somewhere around a billion fans for the World Cup Finals, but even they admitted that was a VERY generous estimate. In reality it is about HALF of that or a little less...somewhere between 250 to 400 million fans watch. That is STILL at a minimum, 3 to for times the amount that watch the Super Bowl.


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Second, as with anything, lots of people in the parts of the world where soccer is actually popular (western Europe and southern Latin America) follow other things. "Everybody" never does anything. "Everybody" doesn't follow the NFL, because somebody is at the symphony, somebody took a walk, somebody is watching TV bowling, and somebody is reading a book.
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Let's rephrase here...ALL of Latin America and ALL of Europe and ALL of Africa. Also, there are TONS of people that take on "the symphony, somebody took a walk, somebody is watching TV, and somebody is reading a book." ;)

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Third, there are plenty of parts of the world that ignore soccer, and by ignore I mean treat it like we do. Australia, New Zealand, Japan, China, India, Pakistan, the Carribean, etc.
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LMAO!! WHERE did you get THIS ONE?! Australia loves soccer...maybe not like central America or western Europe, but it is almost tied with basketball for 4th most popular sport behind Australian rules football and rugby. Same goes with New Zealand. Japan and China, baseball is barely ahead of basketball and followed by soccer. In India and Pakistan, only cricket surpasses soccer. And finally, in the Carribean...??!! Really??!! Seriously...??!! I have been all over the Carribean INCLUDING Cuba and it's baseball in the more developed countries followed by basketball and soccer and the lesser developed countries it's almost a 4 way tie with soccer, basketball, cricket and baseball.

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It is just great to see people lose money on soccer in North America. The Market is speaking to those that will listen to it. Business people who listen to It, and not to the insufferable arrogance of its tiny cadre of fans, will do well.
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The lose money comment is the simple and TYPICAL 'American arrogance' response. Always make light or fun of things you do not or want not to understand. When the World Cup came to US, it was a HUGE success(I was at openning ceremonies in Chicago and initial game).

I do not like futbol as much as the average fan, but I do like the sport and really do not understand why soccer and soccer fan get so much heat. I just think NON-soccer fans do not like and understand how rabit soccer fans are about their favorite sport and quite possibly upset that those same fans in the US do not support and go crazy for something "more American"....

...just saying...:rolleyes:;)
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Two opinions about soccer: 1) the difference between soccer & basketball in the U.S. is what the young people had in their neighborhoods to play on. If they had neighborhood soccer pitches instead of basketball courts,almost all of the NBA's stars & superstars could have been star soccer players(imagine Lebron James,Kobe Bryant,& Carmelo Anthony as soccer stars instead) & soccer,instead of the NBA,would have the "ghetto gangsta" attitude,just like the rest of the world. I think the rest of the world finds it amusing that soccer in the U.S. is considered a middle class-upper middle class sport,complete with "soccer moms" & minivans,etc.

Now point # 2, I've watched soccer matches in hotbed countries on TV & I've seen,surprise surprise,empty seats. In fact I seen entire sections of stadiums empty & devoid of fans. Matches in Europe,South America(even Chile's Colo-Colo) play in front of empty seats . I ask myself,"if these nations love soccer so much,why are the seats empty?"
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Now point # 2, I've watched soccer matches in hotbed countries on TV & I've seen,surprise surprise,empty seats. In fact I seen entire sections of stadiums empty & devoid of fans. Matches in Europe,South America(even Chile's Colo-Colo) play in front of empty seats . I ask myself,"if these nations love soccer so much,why are the seats empty?"[/QUOTE]

One could say the same about all the empty seats at Florida Marlins, Jacksonville Jaguars, and Sacramento Kings games. The reasons could range from economic issues to less than compelling competition (keep in mind that in Europeans soccer leagues there are a few dominating clubs and a bunch of teams than can only dream of being at that level but do not have the resources to do so) to just a simple lack of interest in the team that may be reflective of its on-field performance.

As for salsadancer7's question about why soccer and soccer fans take so much heat in this country. I chalk it up to general ignorance and a lack of understanding about the game. Many people have the "I don't understand it, it looks stupid and I don't like it so how can anybody else like it" mentality." I've seen similar attitudes displayed towards sports such as women's basketball and NASCAR. Many people like to hide their lack of education behind a facade of bravado that ususally manifests itself through redicule.
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btharner said:
Now point # 2, I've watched soccer matches in hotbed countries on TV & I've seen,surprise surprise,empty seats. In fact I seen entire sections of stadiums empty & devoid of fans. Matches in Europe,South America(even Chile's Colo-Colo) play in front of empty seats . I ask myself,"if these nations love soccer so much,why are the seats empty?"
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One could say the same about all the empty seats at Florida Marlins, Jacksonville Jaguars, and Sacramento Kings games. The reasons could range from economic issues to less than compelling competition (keep in mind that in Europeans soccer leagues there are a few dominating clubs and a bunch of teams than can only dream of being at that level but do not have the resources to do so) to just a simple lack of interest in the team that may be reflective of its on-field performance.

As for salsadancer7's question about why soccer and soccer fans take so much heat in this country. I chalk it up to general ignorance and a lack of understanding about the game. Many people have the "I don't understand it, it looks stupid and I don't like it so how can anybody else like it" mentality." I've seen similar attitudes displayed towards sports such as women's basketball and NASCAR. Many people like to hide their lack of education behind a facade of bravado that ususally manifests itself through redicule.[/QUOTE]

All very good points!:up
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Stargate SG-1 Discussion

Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
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I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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Defender on Linux: Microsoft’s Big Security Move #shorts

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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.
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Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

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Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
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Here's the one I need:
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Here's the one I need:
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Just ordered one....that's great.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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RTX Spark: NVIDIA's AI PC Powerhouse Details! #shorts

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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
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I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
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"You Can See Everything" Is 1 of the Century’s Best #shorts

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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.
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TRG said:
Fanta orange soda.
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Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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