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OK guys,
I consider myself a newbie to this hobby.
And I have the task at hand: splitting a signal coming from my STB's Pass Through port btw 2 lines: one going to an Add-on card mounted inside the STB, another to one of my Sat Card PC tuners mounted inside a PC. I looked around for a high frequency splitter, and found several types, including non-power passing, DC power passing on one OUT port, and DC power passing on both OUT ports. I assume, they are dual-directional (or not?), i.e. DC is passed from IN to OUT splitter port(s), and in opposite direction (not blocked from OUT to IN).
I want to control my motor and be able to select sats & channels independently from both the STB and PC Tuner. I will mostly use one receiver at a time or the other, but sometime both.
Which type of splitter do I need for my application and why? Should it allow DC power to pass in both directions: In and Out?
What splitter makes and models will do the best job - low noise and signal degradation?
Other suggestions (be gentle please, I'm "almost" new!).
I consider myself a newbie to this hobby.
And I have the task at hand: splitting a signal coming from my STB's Pass Through port btw 2 lines: one going to an Add-on card mounted inside the STB, another to one of my Sat Card PC tuners mounted inside a PC. I looked around for a high frequency splitter, and found several types, including non-power passing, DC power passing on one OUT port, and DC power passing on both OUT ports. I assume, they are dual-directional (or not?), i.e. DC is passed from IN to OUT splitter port(s), and in opposite direction (not blocked from OUT to IN).I want to control my motor and be able to select sats & channels independently from both the STB and PC Tuner. I will mostly use one receiver at a time or the other, but sometime both.
Which type of splitter do I need for my application and why? Should it allow DC power to pass in both directions: In and Out?
What splitter makes and models will do the best job - low noise and signal degradation?
Other suggestions (be gentle please, I'm "almost" new!).
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Actually, no-one has an obligation to answer anyone's questions on this or another forum, or talk about their setup. I won't have any problems with that, and will not claim representing others as well. This thread was intended by its header to be a generic thread on using basic signal distribution system components. It's NOT linked to my particular setup in any way, except various hypothetical personalized "what if" scenarios aimed ONLY at finding out how basic components can generally be used in a FTA signal distribution system, since such info is very hard to find. It's merely educational, a valuable learning curve for me and hopefully others. The forum rules do not prohibit asking general questions within a covered by the forum subject, or presenting particular system examples without linking them to own setup. In fact, I found various generalized threads on this forum posted over a long time frame. While people educate each other, like in this thread, new solutions are suggested like using DP 44 Power Inserter for FTA applications, nobody spoken before about, or exploiting a sat tuner capabilities in a motorized system auto setup - its hard to not notice that. Not surprising, new solutions come from different people, not just one or two - no knowledge, ideas or opinions monopoly.
I have no problem saying I don't know an answer if I don't, and will loose nothing admitting that. You don't have to answer, if a question sounds incomplete or too hypothetical, or whatever.
That's why still trying to find out, if anyone checked DPP44 Power Inserter will pass DiSEqC commands to a generic switch like Chieta 4x1, or it can only work with DP switches, STBs and LNBs due to employed freq upconversion or non-standard commands passing scheme? Its Spec would be appreciated, but seems very hard to find.
Not surprising, new solutions come from different people, not just one or two - no knowledge, ideas or opinions monopoly.I have no problem saying I don't know an answer if I don't, and will loose nothing admitting that. You don't have to answer, if a question sounds incomplete or too hypothetical, or whatever.
That's why still trying to find out, if anyone checked DPP44 Power Inserter will pass DiSEqC commands to a generic switch like Chieta 4x1, or it can only work with DP switches, STBs and LNBs due to employed freq upconversion or non-standard commands passing scheme? Its Spec would be appreciated, but seems very hard to find.
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The DPP44 power inserter has to pass DiSEqC commands for it to work with the switch. It doesn't do any frequency conversions. I don't recall the exact voltage it provides upstream, but I measured mine when I installed it and it was over 20V, and I seem to recall it was well over 20V. That might cause problems for some FTA components. It should turn your motor faster, but I can't say whether it would have the same life expectancy.
Along the same lines my DP legacy converters send much closer to 18V of power and also pass DiSEqC commands. If you have a Superdish-style bandstacked LNB, they will handle the frequency conversion of the upper H band to 950-1450 MHz when 18V is applied by any FTA receiver, or pass the lower V band straight through when 13V is applied. This makes using this type of bandstacked LNB look completely like an ordinary switched FTA Ku LNBF and might be nice for multireceiver installations. On eBay they go for next to nothing.
Dish has no skin in the game to supply parts for FTA. I doubt you'll ever see a spec for either in the wild.
That's why still trying to find out, if anyone checked DPP44 Power Inserter will pass DiSEqC commands to a generic switch like Chieta 4x1, or it can only work with DP switches, STBs and LNBs due to employed freq upconversion or non-standard commands passing scheme? Its Spec would be appreciated, but seems very hard to find.
The DPP44 power inserter has to pass DiSEqC commands for it to work with the switch. It doesn't do any frequency conversions. I don't recall the exact voltage it provides upstream, but I measured mine when I installed it and it was over 20V, and I seem to recall it was well over 20V. That might cause problems for some FTA components. It should turn your motor faster, but I can't say whether it would have the same life expectancy.
Along the same lines my DP legacy converters send much closer to 18V of power and also pass DiSEqC commands. If you have a Superdish-style bandstacked LNB, they will handle the frequency conversion of the upper H band to 950-1450 MHz when 18V is applied by any FTA receiver, or pass the lower V band straight through when 13V is applied. This makes using this type of bandstacked LNB look completely like an ordinary switched FTA Ku LNBF and might be nice for multireceiver installations. On eBay they go for next to nothing.
Dish has no skin in the game to supply parts for FTA. I doubt you'll ever see a spec for either in the wild.
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.
DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.
The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.
It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.
DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.
The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.
It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.
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Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.
DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.
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I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?
Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.
Thanks.
Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.
Thanks.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YJjxjYvmQ8s
Direct YouTube Link - Good Bye, Tim! Last WWDC
The official iJustine Website's Website
Buy her book!
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Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
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I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.
If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.
I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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