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I finally was able to get Dish to install the EA 1000.4 dish.
The intent was to be able to watch Local HD over the satellite vs the OTA tuner/ant.

WELL, they just installed the new dish.
Yep I see the LOCAL "HD" 4 networks from Chatt TN..
Channel 51nn
HOWEVER they are NOT ALL in HD content.
The only channel that is in real HD is NBC.
The others CBS/ABC/FOX are in SD.
Why is this ?

Is the local network not providing the feed to Dish or is Dish not linking to the HD content feed from the network?

And who do I contact to discuss the issue? Dish ? or each network out of Chattanooga TN?
The Dish customer service really does not know dip about this. They keep telling me I cannot get LOCAL HD. Their site says otherwise.

As does the installer who put up the dish. He says he only installs the EA1000.4 in this area if the customer has LOS for the purpose of LOCAL HD from 61.5

Really ticked me off.
I wanted to get these LOCAL HD and get away from the problems with the VIP622 OTA tuner, which is crap.

Just dont have any idea what to do next. Maybe a new call? or letter to ceo charlie?


At least they installed the new dish for free.

ps edit I did post this on my original thread but wanted to ask on a new thread about the content issue


Thanks
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V
Ok all good.
It appears some locals will feed SD during the day to Dish, then at night change over to HD content.

Had all the locals in HD last night.

The 622 OTA problems drop out- loss of sound and picture then back. I am on my third 622 in 2 yrs. The techs all agreed the tuner was bad.
I have other units that work perfect on OTA HD.. One an old VOOM box and another ATSC tuner, they never loose lock.
My OTA outside antenna is the largest I could get along with a CM boom mounted amp.
The 622 tuner shows 80 to 98 signal levels but still drops out of lock. The VOOM OTA tuner shows the same sig levels- never looses lock.

I am connected to the TV/monitor using component cables.

There are other posts related to the OTA tuner issues, not just me.

Yes I watched the HD LOCALS on the 51nn and the std channel number, all the same.

However, it looks like this is working out just fine.

The 61.5 satellite works great, 65 sig level. Held great lock under heavy rain last night. A bit better then 129 was.

Thanks to this list I was able to provide Dish with the technical information to insist on the EA1000.4 install... at no charge.

Really appreciated the advice and information I find here.. I read for hours..
(retired :) )
gdarwin
I have other units that work perfect on OTA HD.. One an old VOOM box and another ATSC tuner, they never loose lock.
My OTA outside antenna is the largest I could get along with a CM boom mounted amp.
The 622 tuner shows 80 to 98 signal levels but still drops out of lock. The VOOM OTA tuner shows the same sig levels- never looses lock.

You might be over driving the 622. Dish receivers react this way with too much signal or multipath. If you could get up to the antenna and bypass the amp it might clear up the signal fluctuations.

I'm running my antenna barefoot driving all the OTA receivers below plus a direct feed to the TV's.
V
You might be over driving the 622. Dish receivers react this way with too much signal or multipath. If you could get up to the antenna and bypass the amp it might clear up the signal fluctuations.

I'm running my antenna barefoot driving all the OTA receivers below plus a direct feed to the TV's.

BANG way to go.
I just put a splitter in line to feed the OTA tuner. The splitter must offer just enough loss to not over power the tuner.
So far my short test-run today - no more drop outs.

I cannot get up on the roof to take the amp out the line. I have to get my son to go up there when it is nicer.
I tried to run it without the amp powered up - lost the signal. Must not be enough bleed though with the amp un-powered.

How about a DC block. I know there will be or may be amp power on the out coax connection to the box ?? unless the amp has a built in DC block at the out coax connection. Have to look that up..

Will watch some OTA tonight and see. Heck if this works all will be great since I will be able record from 2 'local' sources.

Here I was thinking MORE is better.. :)


Said this bunch really helps solve problems..
Thanks :up
whatchel1
What he said

You might be over driving the 622. Dish receivers react this way with too much signal or multipath. If you could get up to the antenna and bypass the amp it might clear up the signal fluctuations.

I'm running my antenna barefoot driving all the OTA receivers below plus a direct feed to the TV's.

You are most likely experiencing multipath or overdrive like gdarwin says. Both will do exactly what he said. Also the Voom receivers react much differently than the E* units. When a Voom is over driven then it will not tune the main channel and reboot itself if you tune to it. The tuners are completely different in all 3 that you have and can't really be compared to each other.
T
BANG way to go.
I just put a splitter in line to feed the OTA tuner. The splitter must offer just enough loss to not over power the tuner.
So far my short test-run today - no more drop outs.

I cannot get up on the roof to take the amp out the line. I have to get my son to go up there when it is nicer.
I tried to run it without the amp powered up - lost the signal. Must not be enough bleed though with the amp un-powered.

How about a DC block. I know there will be or may be amp power on the out coax connection to the box ?? unless the amp has a built in DC block at the out coax connection. Have to look that up..

Will watch some OTA tonight and see. Heck if this works all will be great since I will be able record from 2 'local' sources.

Here I was thinking MORE is better.. :)


Said this bunch really helps solve problems..
Thanks :up

All the DC block will do is block power to the amp, which you found doesn't work real well... all of the antenna amps really kill the signal if no power is there. You can get more w/ just coax to the antenna than you will w/ a dead amp... I've always thought they should've designed the amps to have powered switching to the inputs, sort of a "bypass" if you would, that when power is there the input is routed through the amplifier, if the power supply dies, just bypasses the active electronics & routes the antenna straight down the coax...
V
Great, how about I get a 5dB attenuator? or higher from RS and use that for now until I can get to the amp on the tower/roof?

Maybe an adjustable attenuator would be better?.. time of a Google search.
T
Attenuator will do the trick... adjustable even better :)
KAB
KAB
Ok all good.
It appears some locals will feed SD during the day to Dish, then at night change over to HD content.
Again, it is a matter of SD produced programming, not an SD feed.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

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harshness
They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole.
The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.
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dishstaller
The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.
That's kinda what I was seeing but all the news reports are suggesting that all investors will be made whole immediately.
The other thing they weren't clear about was the BTC that was "locked out" of the system. I guess that means that the stolen BTC is basically worthless now because I don't see how it could be replaced....but there is a LOT about the crypto world that leaves me scratching my head.
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harshness
This is what scares me about cryptocurrency: there doesn't seem to be any oversight.

It seems more like politics than investing.
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meStevo
A few clarifications... the ~$3B "locked" was mostly stablecoins (USDT/USDC). Tether and Circle can blacklist their own tokens, which makes those worthless to the thief. Bitcoin and ETH have no issuer, so they can't be frozen. That's the ~$2.4–3.3B the hackers still have, so the stolen BTC is very much not worthless to them. It was also spread across 10 blockchains, not just bitcoin. On getting made whole: SAFU is ~15,000 BTC (~$1.2B), and Binance says it'll cover the rest from company funds. Analysts don't see it as a solvency problem, and withdrawals are expected back within days.

The attack was pinned on North Korea's TraderTraitor group via a compromised engineer laptop. Like many hacks and compromises, that's old-school social engineering, not AI.

This is what scares me about cryptocurrency: there doesn't seem to be any oversight.

It seems more like politics than investing.

That's the tradeoff stablecoins make - a central issuer that can freeze funds, which is why half the loot got stopped. Bitcoin and ETH have no one in charge, so nobody can reverse a theft, but nobody can freeze your coins either. Stablecoins trade price volatility for trusting a central issuer.
dishstaller
That's the tradeoff stablecoins make - a central issuer that can freeze funds, which is why half the loot got stopped. Bitcoin and ETH have no one in charge, so nobody can reverse a theft, but nobody can freeze your coins either. Stablecoins trade price volatility for trusting a central issuer.
Thanks....that fills in some of the missing pieces.
Why some of the money could be locked and the rest not was a gigantic hole is every story I read. I thought "well if they can lock up stolen BTC, then why couldn't they do the same thing to BTC that is used for ransom or some other illegal activity?". NOW I understand.
I miss the days when you could read a news story and now walk away with more questions than answers.
Juan
Where would you spend 6.3 billion in crypto without anyone noticing?..In today's digital world most countries are watching purchases over 10k
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Safe In My Garden - The Mamas & The Papas
long_time_Dish
Mary Shut The Garden Door - Donald Fagen
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The Wind Cries Mary - Jimi Hendrix
long_time_Dish
Lonely Wind - Kansas
dishstaller
Lonely is the Night - Billy Squier
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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vazhog
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
harshness
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
That's not who it is for. The cut is for those who won't work (though you typically had to prove that you couldn't work to get it in the first place).
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Foxbat
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
osu1991
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
I didn't start it as a political statement and have no interest in the political BS of this country. Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays. This was just my rant over the outrageous increase in my premiums and how unaffordable healthcare is becoming to the average person here.

admin can close or delete it if they don't want here.
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Bobby
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
There are no dues to be paid to be in the Pit. You just have to use the password which is clearly shown when you try to log in to it.
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dishstaller
Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays.

Yes.....they do. Which is why I am very careful when at a customer's house these days....you NEVER know what is going to set someone off. Polite dialog is a thing of the past.....which is why I like my dog so much :)
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dishdude
That's not who it is for. The cut is for those who won't work (though you typically had to prove that you couldn't work to get it in the first place).

Which makes zero sense. If they are healthy and able to work but won't, they aren't using any health resources up.
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navychop
Until a runaway pickle truck hits them.
dishdude
Until a runaway pickle truck hits them.

I'm sure Vlasic has good insurance!
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Some of the channels start next week.

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comfortably_numb
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
TRG
TRG
It's not even Halloween yet.
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Scott Greczkowski
I like the Jimmy Fallon channel. This will be its third year. I like that it's all fresh each year. Also fun when he pops on live from time to time.
Don in CT
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
So it's a drunk father telling his in-laws to leave.
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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dishstaller
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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Scott Greczkowski
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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Scott Greczkowski
Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
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(((Garyd)))
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
Your old link triggered my Bitdefender today.
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(((Garyd)))
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
I had a direct link to ]Political, thought provoking and debatable but now have to go in the main section or I get a warning on my Bitdefender
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dishstaller
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
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Scott Greczkowski
I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
Its an automated bot. Explained it to you in the PM.
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osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
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GM said its next-generation vehicle architecture will provide 40 times more computing power and 30 percent less wiring than before and will expand from the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ to its high-volume SUVs, trucks, crossovers, and fourth-generation EVs, which will be powered by lithium manganese-rich (LMR) prismatic batteries

Despite the politicization and perceived consumer pivot away from EVs in America, GM needs to remain globally competitive, so it's doubling down on its fourth generation EVs, with energy-dense, cheaper-to-manufacture LMR batteries, more efficient motors, and state-of-the-art centralized computing architecture. With a stated goal of cutting the traditional four- to five-year concept-to-production time in half, GM is clearly challenging the concept of "China speed," which in the Chinese automotive industry can be as quick as 18 months from design to start of production. In the AI space, GM is smartly collapsing all of its marque-specific apps under the familiar OnStar brand, while providing more features—both on the phone and in the car—than it ever has before.
harshness
Let's tell it like it is. GM's EV efforts are coming from SAIC. The brain trust is almost entirely in China, and GM is hanging off of SAIC's shirt tails.

It is a lot like asserting that the Corvette was designed by Chevrolet when most of it came from the Cadillac CTS-V.
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T

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
That's how Ford did it- vertical integration. He even set up a rubber plantation in S. America
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.
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Ungood.
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What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
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navychop
Tell Alexa verbally what to do.
snissen
What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
I stand up from my chair with my glass in one hand and my plate in the other, when a story I really want to hear comes on the TV. So I say, "Alexa, pause DISH", and it waits for me to return from the kitchen, at which time I say, "Alexa, resume DISH".

Or maybe, when I return with a full glass in one hand and a new plate in the other, I realize I forgot to pause to hear this good story from its start. So I say, "Alexa, skip DISH backwards 3 minutes", and I still get to catch the whole story.

I use this every day. Or until I acquire a third hand.
navychop
The Resurrectionists can help you with that.

For a price.
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