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Hello Everyone,

This is my first post on your forum although I have lurked here for quite some time. This is a great site and I thank all responsible parties. Sorry in advance for the long post.

I am trying to resolve a problem with my VIP722 in my RV. As to my setup, I have a Winegard Roadtrip Digital Satellite Dome Antenna/Dish with automatic satellite seeking and alignment. Inside the RV I also have the Winegard Satellite Interface attached to the Number 1 Satellite input on the VIP722. The Number 2 Satellite input on the 722 is attached to a second coax cable from the dome on the roof. This setup has worked perfectly in the past but now it does not. The Winegard setup instructions require that after performing the check switch test you must end up with SW42 installed for both inputs in order for the receiver to function correctly. I have run this test about 30 times and have ended up with very mixed results but not the required SW42 on both inputs. Also, the number of satellites changes for no apparent reason. Sometimes I will get 3 sats on input 1 and 2 sats on input 2 OR 2 on 1and 1 on 2, etc. On my most recent attempt I tried to start from scratch and powered down the satellite interface and disconnected the coax cable to both inputs on the 722. I then unplugged the 722 and waited a minute or so, plugged it back in, ran the check switch, got the expected response (no satellites/no switch installed) on the check switch screen. I then attached the coax cables to both inputs on the 722 and powered up the satellite interface and let it run through its power up routine and locate the satellites. I then ran the check switch test and got the following result: Sat input 1 = 119 – 110 – 129 all green and SW64, Sat input 2 = 110 – 129 both green and SW42. I can't seem to figure out how to get SW42 on both inputs and how to get the correct number of satellites on each input. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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J
I don't know about rick, but I am using rg-6 cable on both inputs. The problem is not signal strength; it's which satellite the dish is pointed at during a particular test. If tuner one is doing a test that requires the 110 bird, the dome will move the dish to that satellite. If tuner two is working on a test that requires the 119 or 129 satellite, it won't have the right signal and will fail that test. I don't know if all the tests require a particular satellite, but at least some of them do since the dish will always toggle to all three birds during the sequence. On my system, tuner one always comes up with the correct SW64 setting and access to both odd and even polarity on all three satellites. Tuner two, however, shows a different switch configuration and one or two missing satellites. Sometimes the software will let me accept the mismatch, but other times won't give me any option other than restarting the test sequence.
MattG@DISH
Once again, since it's not our equipment, there's limited things I know about it. This is a bizarre issue, but I have a hard time thinking it's receiver software that's the problem, but I will remain open to the idea. When a check switch test fails (finds fewer satellites then previously detected), it will pop up the 836 warning. The 836 message allows you to retest, cancel and go back to old results, or save the new results regardless of what they are. When the test picks up more satellites, it goes directly to the install summary screen with the results. Does the receiver work normally when you're hooked up to a regular dish?
G
Hi
new here and have a wineguard traveler which I installed.I also have the vip 722. I called wineguard support and they told me that in the event that I couldn't get the switch installed to disconnect both inputs on the back of the receiver and do a check switch again. They said by doing this it would clean out all the satellite info that was in there previously. Then go ahead and connect the cables back up to the receiver and do another check switch and that should take care of the problem. I did that and everything worked and had the correct swiitch installed and I had 110-119-129 satalites. I don't know if this will help or not but it worked for me.
J
My receiver works correctly when connected to a Dish 1000, triple LNB dish. It finishes Check Switch after only 4 or 5 tests (I don't remember which), and both switches show something like "DPP 1.k2".

The 836 warning doesn't always come up. I just ran the tests again, starting with the dish pointed at the 119 satellite. The tuners stayed together up to test number 3. Then Tuner 2 started stepping up much faster than tuner 1. It quickly got 6 steps ahead of tuner one, and then stayed 6 steps ahead until the end of the sequence, with the dish pointed at the 129 satellite. The Install Summary screen then came up, showing all 3 satellites on tuner 1 with SW64, and 119 and 110 satellites on tuner 2, ports 1 and 2, respectively. The switch on tuner 2 showed "Quad". The "Done" button was greyed out. Error Message 836 did not come up. I pressed "View TV" on the remote, and Error Message 502 came up, essentially saying "Fix the problem and retest". I started the test again, with the dish now pointed at 129. The tuners again got to test 3 at the same time, but tuner 1 got to test 5 before tuner 2 finished test 3. They stayed two steps apart until the end. The dish toggled to 119 at test 13 (on tuner 1), to 110 at test 15, and back to 129 at test 17. This time the Install summary screen again showed the correct configuration for tuner 1, but tuner 2 showed satellites 129 and 119 on ports 1 and 2, with SW21. The "Done" button was again greyed out, and pressing "Cancel" on the remote had no effect. "View TV" again brought up Error 502. I ran the test again, and this time, tuner 1 got to test 6 while tuner 2 was on test 3, and they stayed 3 apart until the end. The Install Summary screen was the same as the previous test. I then unplugged the cable from tuner 2 and ran the test 1 more time. The Install Summary screen showed tuner 1 correctly (like always) and no connection on tuner 2. "Done" was now an available option, and selecting it brought up Error 836. I saved the configuration, and I'm back to a single tuner, 3 satellite setup.

From past experience, I'm absolutely certain that both tuners will show the correct configuration if they both run each and every test at the same time. The trick is getting them to stay in sync for all 38 tests.
J
Thanks for the suggestion, gatedude. I've previously done the tests with both tuners disconnected like you and Winegard suggest, but it doesn't make any difference. If the tuners get out of sync, tuner 2 comes up with the wrong configuration. The Trav'ler has a Dish Network dish and LNB setup on a Winegard mount, so it looks to the receiver just like the dish on your house. All the Winegard mount does is initially align the dish; after that it doesn't have to do anything. The Road Trip has to physically move the dish anytime a different satellite is required.
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Bruce
tanman
For your viewing pleasure...
comfortably_numb
For your viewing pleasure...

That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
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dishstaller
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:
comfortably_numb
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:

They don't care... they're milkin' the cow. Buddying up with Elon to provide him an MVNO network will make their investors and shareholders salivate. All of their recent marketing efforts have failed, so this move makes a lot of sense.
fmj77
Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.
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NYDutch
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
Yep, they could stick it in with thier other dozen or so MVNO's, including the five they own.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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All Night Long - Joe Walsh
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Night Fever - Bee Gees
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Night By Night - Steely Dan
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Day By Day - Godspell
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Derk Day - Steve Walsh
b4pjoe
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
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harshness
Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
dishstaller
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
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navychop
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
osu1991
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.
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Juan
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
HipKat
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
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dishstaller
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
Had a customer come in a couple weeks ago to pay her internet bill. She let me know in no uncertain terms that she did NOT appreciate me running the same ads over and over. I looked at her and waited for her to laugh and say she was just joking.......still waiting for that laugh.
osu1991
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
There is one there too. I would think either is justifiable as they make both the device and provide a streaming program service.

Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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R
A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Y
Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
rvvaquero
Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
I agree to a point. The transfer policy is creating parity, but only for the top 20-25 teams. The other 110+ teams in the FBS are just breeding grounds for the bigger schools which have more money and more recruiting appeal.

If a smaller school recruits, trains, and matures a quality player, they can't keep them past their sophomore year because the bigger schools snatch them up. Example: LSU didn't cultivate Sam Leavitt, they just harvested him from other schools. LSU is a top contender, in large part because of Leavitt. Michigan State and Arizona State.................are not. If either of those schools had been able to retain his services, who knows where they would be now.
T
A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Coach says afternoon game result of SEC "conspiracy". The rivalry game vs. Ala. will kick off in the afternoon at Baton Rouge rather than at night, which head coach Lane Kiffin says is intentional in order to neutralize fan craziness and noise, which is believed to help lead to wins for squads playing at home. "Obviously the SEC wanted to change this year from how it had been to give LSU less advantage, (considering) how well LSU plays at night and how intimidating it is to play here. So I guess when I look at it that way, I'm not surprised."

But he's come up with an ingenious solution. "Go to bed earlier Fri. night, then start your day earlier. Have breakfast earlier. Start drinking earlier. Whatever your routine is, just move it up."

Meantime ads have been running for a "Protect College Sports Act" moving through Congress.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.
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Foxbat
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.
TRG
TRG
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
I have gigabit fiber in an underground box on my property. But it's not lit up yet so I'm stuck with copper too. For now anyway.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI
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Bobby
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.
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dishstaller
That brought tears to my eyes.
Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA&pp=ygUed29tYW4gaGVhcnMgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1l
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dishstaller
Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5UCDwHMatg?feature=share
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dishstaller
This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ
Juan
Its a shame nobody told him orange was blue and red was purple etc etc etc
T
Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv